Release or retain?

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Who would you offer a contract for next season?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:32 pm

Mark Howard
3
1%
Ben Alnwick
38
9%
Mark Beevers
35
8%
David Wheater
37
9%
Dorian Dervite
15
4%
Jon Flanagan
26
6%
Derik Osede
9
2%
Karl Henry
35
8%
Darren Pratley
21
5%
Jan Kirchhoff
29
7%
Alex Perry
14
3%
Jem Karacan
17
4%
Jeff King
19
5%
Filipe Morais
34
8%
Chris Taylor
0
No votes
Sammy Ameobi
41
10%
Aaron Wilbraham
8
2%
Chinedu Obasi
8
2%
Connor Hall
28
7%
 
Total votes: 417

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by Prufrock » Sun May 27, 2018 9:50 am

Not going to lie, in a move that I think could get you a job working on programming for channel 4 or 5 here, I think you've come up with the pun first there, then the idea, mate!

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by knobpolisher » Sun May 27, 2018 10:23 am

Prufrock wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 9:50 am
Not going to lie, in a move that I think could get you a job working on programming for channel 4 or 5 here, I think you've come up with the pun first there, then the idea, mate!

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by mullayo » Mon May 28, 2018 1:07 am

Prufrock wrote:
Sun May 27, 2018 9:50 am
Not going to lie, in a move that I think could get you a job working on programming for channel 4 or 5 here, I think you've come up with the pun first there, then the idea, mate!

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by mullayo » Mon May 28, 2018 1:24 am

I was looking at Vital Bolton's season statistical breakdown series and it made for grim reading.
Basically bottom 3 for everything.

The only encouraging thing - albeit backhanded - was how many clearances our centrebacks made per game (Wheater 7.9 and Beevers 8.8 both top 6).
Also how many goals we saved. Our keepers - mostly Alnwick - averaged 3.1 saves per game (4th), and made more saves from shots inside the box than anyone else..

We also made more clearances as a team than anyone, with 35.3 per game. So basically, lots of experience with our backs to the wall. Could stand us in good stead?
Who am I kidding, it's dire, we need to shake things up. Almost any change at the moment will be for the better.
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Re: Release or retain?

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon May 28, 2018 10:46 am

mullayo wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:24 am
I was looking at Vital Bolton's season statistical breakdown series and it made for grim reading.
Basically bottom 3 for everything.

The only encouraging thing - albeit backhanded - was how many clearances our centrebacks made per game (Wheater 7.9 and Beevers 8.8 both top 6).
Also how many goals we saved. Our keepers - mostly Alnwick - averaged 3.1 saves per game (4th), and made more saves from shots inside the box than anyone else..

We also made more clearances as a team than anyone, with 35.3 per game. So basically, lots of experience with our backs to the wall. Could stand us in good stead?
Who am I kidding, it's dire, we need to shake things up. Almost any change at the moment will be for the better.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon May 28, 2018 11:57 am

See, I see clearance as aimless hoof which was a major problem we had. There is a time and place for a hoof, but hoofing all game long generally means the ball coming back at you seconds later.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 28, 2018 1:03 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 11:57 am
See, I see clearance as aimless hoof which was a major problem we had. There is a time and place for a hoof, but hoofing all game long generally means the ball coming back at you seconds later.
I know what you mean and agree to an extent, although if the ball's hurtling towards our goal I'm very glad to see a big moon-shaped head whack it away.

Some data-sets include "completed clearances", ie ones which retain possession. Ideally, we'd like our centre-backs to skilfully start the transition from defence into attack by retaining and creating. But there's a time and place for both.

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by boltonboris » Tue May 29, 2018 2:24 pm

mullayo wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:24 am
I was looking at Vital Bolton's season statistical breakdown series and it made for grim reading.
Basically bottom 3 for everything.
But not for lack of points......
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 29, 2018 3:00 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 2:24 pm
mullayo wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 1:24 am
I was looking at Vital Bolton's season statistical breakdown series and it made for grim reading.
Basically bottom 3 for everything.
But not for lack of points......
No, we're in the top four for lack of points... we missed out on 95 of 'em... :D

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by Riviman » Tue May 29, 2018 5:34 pm

https://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2018/05/2 ... erers.html

Jeff King one of our very promising youngsters going, pity, I thought he could have done a job watching him in the U23s.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed May 30, 2018 9:22 am

Youngsters Ryan White and Cole Lonsdale also leave the club. White, DOB 9 Nov 98, is a winger. Lonsdale, DOB 16 Jun 99, a left-sided defender. Unlike Jeff King, these are not near-23-year-olds, they're still teenagers. A tougher decision to make, and one which I can only assume means we're targeting improvement.

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by elhadj » Wed May 30, 2018 1:08 pm

i feel like they are choosing to go out , maybe parkinson told king and white and lonsdale i want to renew your contract but did not expect to play in first team , jeff king is 22 or 23 year old and till now he is not near first team .

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by palindromeofbolton » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:41 am

One of Lee Anderson's cryptic teaser tweets this morning: "This love is here to stay".

Sounds to me like news of a new contract or two will be incoming.

Please let it involve a u-turn on Obasi. :pray:

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:44 am

palindromeofbolton wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 8:41 am
One of Lee Anderson's cryptic teaser tweets this morning: "This love is here to stay".

Sounds to me like news of a new contract or two will be incoming.

Please let it involve a u-turn on Obasi. :pray:
Lee Anderson posts absolute nonsense like that regularly. It means nothing.

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:11 pm

BREAKING NEWS

Ben Alnwick signs two-year extension

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2018/june/b ... -new-deal/
Alnwick said rather than wrote:We’ve been talking about the contract for a while now. Once I was able to come down, I was absolutely over the moon to get it signed. It was always the plan to get my future sorted out early and it was a no-brainer to stay here. It was all I wanted to do from the end of the season. I’ve been knocking on the door all the way through the season to get a new contract because I love it here. I’m settled and it’s somewhere I always wanted to stay
PP said rather than wrote:I’m really pleased that we’ve agreed this deal with Ben. He is a great professional, was excellent for us last season and I’m looking forward to working with him over the coming seasons.



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Re: Release or retain?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:07 pm

Absolutely delighted that Alnwick's signed. Well done those involved.
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Re: Release or retain?

Post by jmjhb » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:23 am

After this morning's excitement, is it just Morais and Ameobi to sort out now?

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Re: Release or retain?

Post by palindromeofbolton » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:34 am

Yep, looks like it's just those two left, aside from a couple more of the youngsters still being tbc...

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