Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

[officer_dibble]

Played his last game for us then I suspect.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Played his last game for us then I suspect.

Parky's parping optimistically but I daresay Ken won't want to continue paying his wages. Or start paying his wages.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Played his last game for us then I suspect.

Parky's parping optimistically but I daresay Ken won't want to continue paying his wages. Or start paying his wages.

What we need to do is to start reclaiming some wages... Now there's an idea

[malcd1]

Played his last game for us then I suspect.

Can we send him back or can Norwich say you have signed him on loan for the season you treat him? Normally a player goes back to his parent club for the best treatment but do they have to accept him if we have signed him and 'agreed' to pay his wages? I suspect they don't want him.

I know that is not what you were suggesting and he may not be fit enough to play again this term. It would be interesting to know where he can go contractually.

[malcd1]

Played his last game for us then I suspect.

Can we send him back or can Norwich say you have signed him on loan for the season you treat him? Normally a player goes back to his parent club for the best treatment but do they have to accept him if we have signed him and 'agreed' to pay his wages? I suspect they don't want him.

I know that is not what you were suggesting and he may not be fit enough to play again this term. It would be interesting to know where he can go contractually. I suspect we are stuck with the useless tosser.

[TANGODANCER]

It's at times like this that the reality of Phil Parkinson's task becomes evident. No money, no quality players and no chance of getting any, injuries, court actions, fan dissilusion, player issues and the worst publicity that can be splattered over the media. None of it is helped by player error on the pitch that gives away precious points by carelessness. He may not be the best manager on the planet, but is he really the worst? Not for me; I feel totally sorry for the guy despite the frustrations of weekly torture.

[BWFC_Insane]

It's at times like this that the reality of Phil Parkinson's task becomes evident. No money, no quality players and no chance of getting any, injuries, court actions, fan dissilusion, player issues and the worst publicity that can be splattered over the media. None of it is helped by player error on the pitch that gives away precious points by carelessness. He may not be the best manager on the planet, but is he really the worst? Not for me; I feel totally sorry for the guy despite the frustrations of weekly torture.

Indeed. A task that is completely underestimated by his detractors. We have a relatively poor quality squad - that might have if lucky, just about have scraped by. As it is even bottom of the table Ipswich are strengthening this window. Whereas through non-payment and injury our squad is considerably weaker than the one that entered this calendar month.

[bristol_Wanderer3]

It's at times like this that the reality of Phil Parkinson's task becomes evident. No money, no quality players and no chance of getting any, injuries, court actions, fan dissilusion, player issues and the worst publicity that can be splattered over the media. None of it is helped by player error on the pitch that gives away precious points by carelessness. He may not be the best manager on the planet, but is he really the worst? Not for me; I feel totally sorry for the guy despite the frustrations of weekly torture.

Indeed. A task that is completely underestimated by his detractors. We have a relatively poor quality squad - that might have if lucky, just about have scraped by. As it is even bottom of the table Ipswich are strengthening this window. Whereas through non-payment and injury our squad is considerably weaker than the one that entered this calendar month.

Yes Parky is doing a great job of getting the team to produce spirited performances and give their all. It must be difficult, and I suspect most managers wouldn't do that part of the job as well. He is clearly a decent bloke who is well respected by all who work for him. I feel his problem is that his whole footballing philosophy, which seems to be focused on hard work and running and everyone helping each other, doesn't focus at all on getting talented players to gel with each other to produce quality attacking play. And I don't think we have a squad that is without ability or talent, even if it might well be bottom half material overall. Takeaway our fast start, and over the last 21 games, our record is W2 D6 L15, with 12 points and 12 goals scored. Our squad is not that bad, it is badly under-performing. It seems a stretch to put all that down to what is happening off the pitch, although we can never really know and a case can be made.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Played his last game for us then I suspect.

Can we send him back or can Norwich say you have signed him on loan for the season you treat him? Normally a player goes back to his parent club for the best treatment but do they have to accept him if we have signed him and 'agreed' to pay his wages? I suspect they don't want him.

It was a season-long loan so I imagine (but can't prove) we will have signed a contract which agreed to pay a proportion of his wages unless and until both sides mutually agreed to an early termination.

Interestingly Iles reports claims that he was set to move to Sheffield United - Yanic not Marc, although it's not much harder to imagine Ilesy on the wing: "Wanderers had previously played down reports they were ready to cut the winger’s loan short this month, allowing him to move on to Sheffield United."

If a player returns 'home' injured the loaning club is still technically on the hook for payments if they agreed to make them, it's just that it's usually better for the player to be at a club with a deeper knowledge of his injury history, where they might have better facilities (if it's a big club loaning out) and for the bloke to be nearer his family while he convalesces, which is important. The lending club might let the borrowers off, but only through largesse. This is, after all, contract law.

Also worth noting that (although it's not true in this case) if a loan is cancelled outside the window, the bloke can't play for his parent team again until the next window. This happened when Allardyce borrowed Liverpool's Jon Otsemobor in January (well, actually Feb 2) 2004 - he played one game for us and we promptly sent him back, presumably for off-field disagreements.

As for Yanic, had he not been injured they probably would have taken him back in hope of getting a new loaning club who might actually pay the wages (or play the player). Nobody's borrowing him with this prognosis, so they might as well leave the deal in place and join the High Court queue.

[TonyDomingos]

Matthews & O'Neil have re-signed.

[officer_dibble]

Well that’s interesting. No Doidge though.

[TonyDomingos]

Well that’s interesting. No Doidge though.

I think he's exited without a deal.

[TKIZ!]

A forward is needed. Noticed with interest that Reading are thinking of loaning Oliviera at Norwich. I think if we had got a pot to pee in that he would be the type of striker we need. 1 in 3/4 and can play as a target man

[DJBlu]

Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.

Not surprised.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

A forward is needed. Noticed with interest that Reading are thinking of loaning Oliviera at Norwich. I think if we had got a pot to pee in that he would be the type of striker we need. 1 in 3/4 and can play as a target man

1 & 3/4 inches. And can play as a target man. Supermunchkin.

[officer_dibble]

Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.

Not surprised.

Is he on a pro contract?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.

Not surprised.

Is he on a pro contract?

He's played for us once. In a game we lost. Does it matter?

[Enoch]

Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.

Not surprised.

Is he on a pro contract?

He's played for us once. In a game we lost. Does it matter?

Apparently twice. Came on for 1 minute against Walsall, I may have missed that.

Is there a compensation angle?

[TANGODANCER]

Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.
Not surprised.

Huh, I said last week K.A had probably sold him already. That's next week's wages sorted then.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Luca Cornell is linked with a move to either Southampton, Brighton or Burnley.
Not surprised.

Huh, I said last week K.A had probably sold him already. That's next week's wages sorted then.

No. The week before last week's wages, Tango. Do keep up.