Onwards and Downwards: 2020 transfer speculation thread.

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Post by piesrus » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:40 am

Latest rumours: Brockbank to Brentford and Otzumer to Charlton.

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Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:05 am

piesrus wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:40 am
Latest rumours: Brockbank to Brentford and Otzumer to Charlton.
Would be sad to see another youngster leave, though he's not at the connell level.
Oztumer is proven class at league 1 level and that would be a major blow. The longer Parkinson is in charge the more inclined he should be to leave. Annoying thing is the new owners will probably get a new manager but if he gets an offer he might not wait that long.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:01 am

There really is going to be nothing left of Bolton Wanderers. What a foolish game football's become, all about greed and selfishness. Without a solid, decent team we're going nowhere at two-hundred miles an hour. Unless the game changes drastically it'll self-destruct completely. The top end millionaire's club, Sky and Virgin Media etc have wrecked the beautiful game, indeed, "sport" in general. It won't end with us.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:06 am

TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:01 am
There really is going to be nothing left of Bolton Wanderers. What a foolish game football's become, all about greed and selfishness. Without a solid, decent team we're going nowhere at two-hundred miles an hour. Unless the game changes drastically it'll self-destruct completely. The top end millionaire's club, Sky and Virgin Media etc have wrecked the beautiful game, indeed, "sport" in general. It won't end with us.
There will be. Us. We'll be left. And a ground. And with a bit of luck new owners and an infrastructure.

But that will be all. And that is why the fans who were crying out for admin - perhaps might reflect now on how painful this process really is. It could easily be that not only is next season going to be an absolute write off, but quite possibly the season after.

Starting from nothing is difficult because we'll build probably the worst squad we've had in recent memory. And then likely be stuck with it for a while too.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:38 am

LeverEnd wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:05 am
piesrus wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:40 am
Latest rumours: Brockbank to Brentford and Otzumer to Charlton.
Would be sad to see another youngster leave, though he's not at the connell level.
Oztumer is proven class at league 1 level and that would be a major blow. The longer Parkinson is in charge the more inclined he should be to leave. Annoying thing is the new owners will probably get a new manager but if he gets an offer he might not wait that long.
An offer from a hometown club, and in a higher division. The only reason he might not take it is self-doubt after this year's farrago but footballers tend not to have self-doubt, or they wouldn't make it past the youth teams. If an offer exists he'd be mad not to take it.

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Post by jmjhb » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:08 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:06 am
TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:01 am
There really is going to be nothing left of Bolton Wanderers. What a foolish game football's become, all about greed and selfishness. Without a solid, decent team we're going nowhere at two-hundred miles an hour. Unless the game changes drastically it'll self-destruct completely. The top end millionaire's club, Sky and Virgin Media etc have wrecked the beautiful game, indeed, "sport" in general. It won't end with us.
There will be. Us. We'll be left. And a ground. And with a bit of luck new owners and an infrastructure.

But that will be all. And that is why the fans who were crying out for admin - perhaps might reflect now on how painful this process really is. It could easily be that not only is next season going to be an absolute write off, but quite possibly the season after.

Starting from nothing is difficult because we'll build probably the worst squad we've had in recent memory. And then likely be stuck with it for a while too.
On the contrary, it gives us an absolutely clean slate now we're in the process of purging the cancer from the club.

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Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:53 pm

jmjhb wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:08 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:06 am
TANGODANCER wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:01 am
There really is going to be nothing left of Bolton Wanderers. What a foolish game football's become, all about greed and selfishness. Without a solid, decent team we're going nowhere at two-hundred miles an hour. Unless the game changes drastically it'll self-destruct completely. The top end millionaire's club, Sky and Virgin Media etc have wrecked the beautiful game, indeed, "sport" in general. It won't end with us.
There will be. Us. We'll be left. And a ground. And with a bit of luck new owners and an infrastructure.

But that will be all. And that is why the fans who were crying out for admin - perhaps might reflect now on how painful this process really is. It could easily be that not only is next season going to be an absolute write off, but quite possibly the season after.

Starting from nothing is difficult because we'll build probably the worst squad we've had in recent memory. And then likely be stuck with it for a while too.
On the contrary, it gives us an absolutely clean slate now we're in the process of purging the cancer from the club.
The clean slate has its benefits, but the 'cancer' was the owner, not promising young players.
Plus, the problem with admin is the timescale. No use having a clean slate if you can buy any chalk.
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Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:54 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:38 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:05 am
piesrus wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:40 am
Latest rumours: Brockbank to Brentford and Otzumer to Charlton.
Would be sad to see another youngster leave, though he's not at the connell level.
Oztumer is proven class at league 1 level and that would be a major blow. The longer Parkinson is in charge the more inclined he should be to leave. Annoying thing is the new owners will probably get a new manager but if he gets an offer he might not wait that long.
An offer from a hometown club, and in a higher division. The only reason he might not take it is self-doubt after this year's farrago but footballers tend not to have self-doubt, or they wouldn't make it past the youth teams. If an offer exists he'd be mad not to take it.
Oh yes, forgot they'd been promoted! :crazy:
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Post by DJBlu » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:14 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:54 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:38 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:05 am
piesrus wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:40 am
Latest rumours: Brockbank to Brentford and Otzumer to Charlton.
Would be sad to see another youngster leave, though he's not at the connell level.
Oztumer is proven class at league 1 level and that would be a major blow. The longer Parkinson is in charge the more inclined he should be to leave. Annoying thing is the new owners will probably get a new manager but if he gets an offer he might not wait that long.
An offer from a hometown club, and in a higher division. The only reason he might not take it is self-doubt after this year's farrago but footballers tend not to have self-doubt, or they wouldn't make it past the youth teams. If an offer exists he'd be mad not to take it.
Oh yes, forgot they'd been promoted! :crazy:
I'd say the Otzumer move would also depend on who is taking us into League One next season.

Can't think he'll want to stay if the manager doesn't really think he is good enough.

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Post by mullayo » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:49 pm

DJBlu wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:14 pm

I'd say the Otzumer move would also depend on who is taking us into League One next season.

Can't think he'll want to stay if the manager doesn't really think he is good enough.
This. We knew we were relegated and Parky never played him in the last few games. It says sling your hook to me.
He'd done a job at this level so don't see the point in alienating him in favour of your other four players... Half of whom are keepers. GOAL keepers!

Was there something going on behind the scenes? Disgruntled?
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Post by Mar » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:38 am

mullayo wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:49 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:14 pm

I'd say the Otzumer move would also depend on who is taking us into League One next season.

Can't think he'll want to stay if the manager doesn't really think he is good enough.
This. We knew we were relegated and Parky never played him in the last few games. It says sling your hook to me.
He'd done a job at this level so don't see the point in alienating him in favour of your other four players... Half of whom are keepers. GOAL keepers!

Was there something going on behind the scenes? Disgruntled?
I would argue the same thing but there may have been appearance bonuses that would've come into effect that would've hindered our ability to play certain players.

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Post by knobpolisher » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:26 am

There may very well have been appearance money but they sure as hell weren't going to get a win bonus.
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Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:20 am

I see Mark Little has gone to Bristol Rovers. Be amazed if we sign a better right back on a free. Cheers Parky.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:00 am

officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:20 am
I see Mark Little has gone to Bristol Rovers. Be amazed if we sign a better right back on a free. Cheers Parky.
Wow. He had been linked with Swansea I wonder if Potter moving on scuppered that. A great signing for them. Like Ozthumer, something has gone on there between player & Parky
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Post by malcd1 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:29 am

Rumours of Hull, Ipswich and Charlton all after Remi Matthews. Not many players left by the end of June (not that it will be a bad thing).
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Post by Branagan » Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:30 pm

With reports suggesting administrators hope to have a new owner in place by the end of the month, I really don't see how we put a team together in time for the next season. We may bundle 11 or so players through the door, but it will be a long time before we have anything like a team - regardless of any cash injections.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:37 pm

^ aye. The longer it drags on the more likely we'll have no senior professionals left, with free agents going elsewhere and those under contract tearing their agreements up.

It is possible to get umpteen new pros in through the door at short notice, Blackpool do it most years, but you've more chance of fostering a team spirit if you've hung onto a few senior pros who know their way around things. Alnwick, Wheater and Magennis still being around would be a huge boost.
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Post by nelson66 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:58 pm

I wouldn't shed many tears if Maggennis left
Looks like we're having a clear out..... might as well do a proper one
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:59 pm

nelson66 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:58 pm
I wouldn't shed many tears if Maggennis left
Looks like we're having a clear out..... might as well do a proper one
Respectfully, and replace him with who in League One nelson? He's probably good enough for there at least till we find a footing. It's going to be a long slow process of getting back and Hazard's leaving Chelsea for brighter lights where they can afford to pay the electric bills.The Magennis role is never the easiest and he's had little support up front from anybody. I reckon if he'll stay, keep him for now and give him that support..
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:07 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:59 pm
nelson66 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:58 pm
I wouldn't shed many tears if Maggennis left
Looks like we're having a clear out..... might as well do a proper one
Respectfully, and replace him with who in League One nelson? He's probably good enough for there at least till we find a footing. It's going to be a long slow process of getting back and Hazard's leaving Chelsea for brighter lights where they can afford to pay the electric bills.The Magennis role is never the easiest and he's had little support up front from anybody. I reckon if he'll stay, keep him for now and give him that support..
A +1 from me Tango.

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