S-Ken Anderson-horpe Utd away - Tue, 24 Nov, 7:00pm

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Re: S-Ken Anderson-horpe Utd away - Tue, 24 Nov, 7:00pm

Post by nicholaldo » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:00 am

brommers95 wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:29 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:22 am
nicholaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:27 pm
If we consider Cambridge United away as the match the base of our best starting eleven began to crystalise, our record in the league looks like this:

Played: 7
Won: 4
Drawn: 2
Lost: 1
But at heart this is a passing team, happy in possession (first goal Saturday was something like a ten-pass move) but also to counter with pace (second goal Saturday) and I do think we might show that soon by stylishly ripping someone a new hole. Be nice if it were Saturday.

Was just thinking this. Some of the football we play is brilliant for League Two, someone is due a pasting soon and Southend look strong contenders for it (he says, trying not to get too carried away)

What a transformation these boys have gone through. The pressing out of possession to win it back and then the link up play with the ball, really really impressive. Enjoying watching football again. Long may it continue

I've got a nagging feeling we're going to lose, simply because it'd be a very Bolton thing to do.

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Re: S-Ken Anderson-horpe Utd away - Tue, 24 Nov, 7:00pm

Post by nicholaldo » Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:09 am

nicholaldo wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:36 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:22 am
nicholaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:27 pm
If we consider Cambridge United away as the match the base of our best starting eleven began to crystalise, our record in the league looks like this:

Played: 7
Won: 4
Drawn: 2
Lost: 1
This intrigued me so I looked back and it was arguably more like, er Grimsby.

Santos and Delaney had already started the previous league game together, at Harrogate; they’ve played every league minute since. In the 66th minute against the Mariners, Evatt hooked Hickman, pushed Brockbank forward to RWB and brought on Baptiste, and although Brocky stayed at the back against Oldham (with Bap benched), the youngster was then shunted to LWB and the three amigos started at the back together for the first time at Barrow.

Anyway back to Grimsby - when Baptiste came on for Hickman that made our XI: Crellin; Baptiste, Santos, Delaney; Brocky, Tutte, Sarce, Crawford, Mascoll; Delf, Doyle. Wingbacks and keeper have changed but that was a brief glimpse of the settled side.

What’s really striking now compared to then is the patterns of play. Then we were occasionally good but generally staid. Now we look full of running, and the nous to know when to do it. Kioso helps as an outball and there does seem a willingness to knock over the top now and again, to ask different questions, to not be predictable.

But at heart this is a passing team, happy in possession (first goal Saturday was something like a ten-pass move) but also to counter with pace (second goal Saturday) and I do think we might show that soon by stylishly ripping someone a new hole. Be nice if it were Saturday.

I was just thinking along the lines of: 1. The back three being Baptiste, Santos, Delaney 2. Our left wing-back being neither of our specialist left wing-backs but a more trusted, out-of-position stop gap, and 3. Our midfield three being Tutte, Sarce, and Crawford.

We've since further solidified our best team by replacing Crellin with Gilks, but I think the point at which Evatt realised he had a capable starting eleven within his squad and what it might look like was after the late equaliser against Barrow. It was only then that he seemed to accept we were definitely better off with Tutte ahead of Comley, and recognised that neither Mascoll nor Gordon could be relied on, currently at least, to hold down a starting spot.

(I know Doyler was injured and thus didn't play for a few matches but he picks himself when fit)

I've just realised he dropped Tutte for White after Leyton Orient gave us a tonking, but I think my point stands in the main.

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Re: S-Ken Anderson-horpe Utd away - Tue, 24 Nov, 7:00pm

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:42 am

Tutte is another who looks like he has benefitted from ‘murderball’ in training. Incidentally I think last 10 in particular the bench was consistently shouting the same thing which I assumed was linked to training at pace. There was hardly any let up in the chasing and harrying. So good to see!

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Re: S-Ken Anderson-horpe Utd away - Tue, 24 Nov, 7:00pm

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:16 am

nicholaldo wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:36 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:22 am
nicholaldo wrote:
Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:27 pm
If we consider Cambridge United away as the match the base of our best starting eleven began to crystalise, our record in the league looks like this:

Played: 7
Won: 4
Drawn: 2
Lost: 1
This intrigued me so I looked back and it was arguably more like, er Grimsby.

Santos and Delaney had already started the previous league game together, at Harrogate; they’ve played every league minute since. In the 66th minute against the Mariners, Evatt hooked Hickman, pushed Brockbank forward to RWB and brought on Baptiste, and although Brocky stayed at the back against Oldham (with Bap benched), the youngster was then shunted to LWB and the three amigos started at the back together for the first time at Barrow.

Anyway back to Grimsby - when Baptiste came on for Hickman that made our XI: Crellin; Baptiste, Santos, Delaney; Brocky, Tutte, Sarce, Crawford, Mascoll; Delf, Doyle. Wingbacks and keeper have changed but that was a brief glimpse of the settled side.

What’s really striking now compared to then is the patterns of play. Then we were occasionally good but generally staid. Now we look full of running, and the nous to know when to do it. Kioso helps as an outball and there does seem a willingness to knock over the top now and again, to ask different questions, to not be predictable.

But at heart this is a passing team, happy in possession (first goal Saturday was something like a ten-pass move) but also to counter with pace (second goal Saturday) and I do think we might show that soon by stylishly ripping someone a new hole. Be nice if it were Saturday.

I was just thinking along the lines of: 1. The back three being Baptiste, Santos, Delaney 2. Our left wing-back being neither of our specialist left wing-backs but a more trusted, out-of-position stop gap, and 3. Our midfield three being Tutte, Sarce, and Crawford.

We've since further solidified our best team by replacing Crellin with Gilks, but I think the point at which Evatt realised he had a capable starting eleven within his squad and what it might look like was after the late equaliser against Barrow. It was only then that he seemed to accept we were definitely better off with Tutte ahead of Comley, and recognised that neither Mascoll nor Gordon could be relied on, currently at least, to hold down a starting spot.

(I know Doyler was injured and thus didn't play for a few matches but he picks himself when fit)
Yeah I'm with you here - what Evatt seems to have realised is a team that can stand up to the physical and mental demands is more critical than necessarily the ID or DNA of each position. So it sort of works having Jones on the left a more dependable and solid type with Kioso ranging forward more on the other side and Baptiste able to adequately manage that channel - its a hybrid 3-5-2 4-4-2 and frankly most of the time this system works that is how I see teams playing.

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Re: S-Ken Anderson-horpe Utd away - Tue, 24 Nov, 7:00pm

Post by nelson66 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:44 pm

Don't get carried away -- we are currently in the midst of a run of games against the shite clubs of league two.
Its great that we are picking up points against them, and moving up the league.
But
There are much sterner tests ahead (well by league 2 standards anyway)
The Whites Are Going Up 2021 :pissed: :grin:

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Re: S-Ken Anderson-horpe Utd away - Tue, 24 Nov, 7:00pm

Post by nelson66 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:45 pm

PS...
We are still going up in 2021
:pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :lol: :lol: :oyea: :oyea: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:
The Whites Are Going Up 2021 :pissed: :grin:

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