Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:29 am

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It would be great to have a third centre back we could use to spell Santos and Baptiste. Centre back is now the only position where if we suffer an injury to a starter we’d be significantly weakened.
Evatt: “I’d like us to be more comfortable in games to give some rest, especially those like Doyle and Ricardo Santos who have played all season, but we have done really well of late. We’re not resting on our laurels. We know what we need to do.”

Baps is doing well to play two games a week, although with the defence being well protected he's not having to tear about the place as much. Delaney is a different type of player - brave, because he has to be reactive, because he doesn't read the game as well - so I think it would be more needs-must than the sort of rotation we're seeing in midfield. Brockbank is a possibility but like Baptiste is only 5ft11; he couldn't partner Bap but could *possibly* stand in for him if he impressed enough in training.

One idea, which may sound like robbing Peter to pay Paul, is that MJ Williams could drop in there. He's played in central defence before and intriguingly last week Evatt mentioned him in a list of possible centre-backs which did not include Reiss Greenidge. I'd argue we have better strength in depth in defensive midfield (Lee, Tutte, Tomo). I'm fairly sure that's in Evatt's back pocket considering we haven't had a centre-back on the bench for the last five games.

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

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It would be great to have a third centre back we could use to spell Santos and Baptiste. Centre back is now the only position where if we suffer an injury to a starter we’d be significantly weakened.
Evatt: “I’d like us to be more comfortable in games to give some rest, especially those like Doyle and Ricardo Santos who have played all season, but we have done really well of late. We’re not resting on our laurels. We know what we need to do.”

Baps is doing well to play two games a week, although with the defence being well protected he's not having to tear about the place as much. Delaney is a different type of player - brave, because he has to be reactive, because he doesn't read the game as well - so I think it would be more needs-must than the sort of rotation we're seeing in midfield. Brockbank is a possibility but like Baptiste is only 5ft11; he couldn't partner Bap but could *possibly* stand in for him if he impressed enough in training.

One idea, which may sound like robbing Peter to pay Paul, is that MJ Williams could drop in there. He's played in central defence before and intriguingly last week Evatt mentioned him in a list of possible centre-backs which did not include Reiss Greenidge. I'd argue we have better strength in depth in defensive midfield (Lee, Tutte, Tomo). I'm fairly sure that's in Evatt's back pocket considering we haven't had a centre-back on the bench for the last five games.
I would not move MJ. His protection is helping the back four out. Delaney is ok but seems to struggle with the odd mindless blooper. I'd rather put Greenidge in that start messing players around and disrupting your team. Minimal changes for me. When you're on a roll keep everything as similar as possible.

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:31 am

I'd rather not move MJ, but I'm not sure I trust Delaney – in the six games since he left the team we've gone WDWWWW, in the previous six we were LDLDDL – and I sure as hell worry about Greenidge.

I wouldn't change the centre-backs unless we really had to, even while welcoming the midfield/attack rotation that's keeping us fresh right to the finish. But if a situation dawns where we have to make a change, it's not so much about "freezing as much as possible" as "best possible options" and I think the risk/benefit on Tomo/Tutte/Lee is better than Delaney or particularly Greenidge.

As I say, it may happen mid-game if (God forbid) Santos or Baptiste have to leave the field - MJ would drop in and we'd get a taster which would inform our decision for subsequent matches. And indeed, if we ever get two or three up comfortably early, we could switch MJ back for the last half-hour to see how it goes.

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by nicholaldo » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:05 pm

Don't we have a centre half on trial?

I can't recall his name but I think he's still with us.

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by The_Gun » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:08 pm

It would be nice just to be able to take Santos off for half an hour every now and then. He's the only player we can't afford an injury to.

I absolutely agree that we need to be starting our best players every game, but given the extremely congested run-in, squad/game management is going to become incredibly important.

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:29 pm

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Don't we have a centre half on trial?

I can't recall his name but I think he's still with us.
Joel Lynch - by the sounds of the latest Iles update we're going to pass on him.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... oel-lynch/
Evatt has also confirmed that ex-Sunderland and QPR defender Joel Lynch has not returned to the training ground, with Wanderers now unlikely to pursue the free agent.

The 33-year-old had been staying at the club’s hotel up until last week, when the lack of training sessions in between the two away games made it impractical to remain at the UniBol.

“He’s not training with us at the moment,” Evatt said. “We are really considering our position on it now and deciding what we want to do.”

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:44 pm

nicholaldo wrote:
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Whisper it... one point off the play-offs.
Holler it... Nigel Clough losing at Harrogate
Another fluke goal, no doubt.
Missed this the other day but here's Evatt: "I think if you look at Manfield’s result on Saturday getting beat 3-0 at home and I listened to Nigel Clough’s interview after the game, just for entertainment purposes more than anything else, but he made a clear reference to the amount of effort they had to put in to play against us on Wednesday and the energy that took out of his team." :mrgreen:

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:41 pm

I’m really mot too worried about Delaney. He was involved in our previous good run. Had a rough patch but I think the presence of MJ and John, and a more solid shape about us means he would be OK. Would I worry about missing Santos or Baptiste, yes, but this is still league two and Evatt chose Delaney over Taft effectively. If we collapsed and started losing games again that would be the issue...injuries are part and parcel of football.

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:12 pm

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Missed this the other day but here's Evatt: "I think if you look at Manfield’s result on Saturday getting beat 3-0 at home and I listened to Nigel Clough’s interview after the game, just for entertainment purposes more than anything else, but he made a clear reference to the amount of effort they had to put in to play against us on Wednesday and the energy that took out of his team." :mrgreen:
I've never been all that keen on Evatt...………………. until now :D

That'll all soon change if he shifts MJW out of the Warhurst role though - absolute madness!
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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:17 pm

I think this weeks Nigel Clough is Scunthorpe fans complaining about the Bolton FM commentary being biased towards...ummm...Bolton 🤣

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:33 pm

Evatt does seem to have been playing to the gallery a bit. I like it when we're winning.

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Feb 25, 2021 9:24 am

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Evatt does seem to have been playing to the gallery a bit. I like it when we're winning.
Currently, we've got the best record in this League over the last five games. Barrow have one of the worst over the same, so a chance to strengthen our position if we take it.
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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:40 am

I didn't know that Barrow had sacked David Dunn until last night :?
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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm

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I didn't know that Barrow had sacked David Dunn until last night :?
And the one after him too....

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:01 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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Bruce Rioja wrote:
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I didn't know that Barrow had sacked David Dunn until last night :?
And the one after him too....
Indeed. I'd no idea until I watched the Quest highlights programme last night
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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:11 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:01 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:40 am
I didn't know that Barrow had sacked David Dunn until last night :?
And the one after him too....
Indeed. I'd no idea until I watched the Quest highlights programme last night
Whilst we are making admissions - I have literally no idea what that is...

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:26 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:11 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:01 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:40 am
I didn't know that Barrow had sacked David Dunn until last night :?
And the one after him too....
Indeed. I'd no idea until I watched the Quest highlights programme last night
Whilst we are making admissions - I have literally no idea what that is...
The sky channel that shows all the EFL goals at 9pm on a Saturday.

I've not bothered tuning in much these last few months
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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:46 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:11 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:01 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:40 am
I didn't know that Barrow had sacked David Dunn until last night :?
And the one after him too....
Indeed. I'd no idea until I watched the Quest highlights programme last night
Whilst we are making admissions - I have literally no idea what that is...
Colin Murray's EFL MotD.

https://www.discoveryplus.co.uk/show/efl-on-quest

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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:27 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:26 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:11 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:01 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 pm
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:40 am
I didn't know that Barrow had sacked David Dunn until last night :?
And the one after him too....
Indeed. I'd no idea until I watched the Quest highlights programme last night
Whilst we are making admissions - I have literally no idea what that is...
The sky channel that shows all the EFL goals at 9pm on a Saturday.

I've not bothered tuning in much these last few months
Pretty sure it's the first time I've watched the midweek edition; wished I hadn't when the alarm went off this morning though. Likewise, I haven't even been watching the Saturday one this season either...………………. until now :D
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Re: Can we press on against the Iron? Scunthorpe (H) 23.2.21 7pm KO

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:36 pm

From what I've seen, it's a decent show; I like that they get writers and specialists in (as well as 'EFL legends') as pundits, rather than just another ex-Prem pro coasting his way towards the Sky seats. Colin Murray's a decent bloke and seems to know his stuff – his Metro column's good too (or was, last time I was on public transport, which feels like round about the time Queen Victoria hopped the twig).

I will admit, though, that I usually only watch our highlights, and maybe our next opponents' if I'm keen enough. That's not a fault of the programme - I'm just not that bothered about watching non-BWFC football these days, it's a bit of a chore just to keep up with the MOTDs.

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