Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:49 pm

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Think you've got me the wrong way round. I'm talking about, for instance, Cardiff being able to sell* Murphy to a third club. Are we saying they legally can't? Or that they can, but he can't play for them?

*Or release.
They can sell the player, but the player can't be registered.

They've had this issue before in Italy. The restraint of trade arguments failed.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:52 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:49 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:44 pm
Think you've got me the wrong way round. I'm talking about, for instance, Cardiff being able to sell* Murphy to a third club. Are we saying they legally can't? Or that they can, but he can't play for them?

*Or release.
They can sell the player, but the player can't be registered.

They've had this issue before in Italy. The restraint of trade arguments failed.
Curious and infuriating. Incuriating.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:52 pm

PRESTON, as promised.

Having lost their chief benefactor in Trevor Hemmings, Preston could be said to have a fiscally uncertain future. Hemmings was their Eddie: local lad made good and moved to the Isle of Man, which is very lovely and doesn’t charge tax. He’s been chipping in for years before buying PNE in 2010 when they faced a winding-up order, and was still pumping in money during Covid - seven shares issues in 2020 alone. Remains to be seen what happens now, and while Hemmings was no cash-splashing Jack Walker (and nobody wants to see Another Bolton), there may well be some belt-tightening at Deepdale. Add in some malaise around the club - fans are unhappy with the untried and unsuccessful manager and captain Alan Browne recently admitted “We’re not deluded. We’re in a really bad place at the moment” - and it’s a situation that could bring about an interesting January.

They have 11 players out of contract in summer and one in January.

Paul Huntington (centre-back, 34) - too old.

Scott Sinclair (winger, 32) - scored 9 in 37 last season but none this term and has mainly been used as a sub. Possibly available, then, but he’s 33 in March.

Patrick Bauer (centre-back, 29) - The 6ft4 German seems to be a defensive leader, averaging 3.6 aerial duels won per game this season - down on 5 last season and 6.1 in 2019/20. (For comparison, among Champo cenrtre-backs only Cardiff’s Aden Flint and WBA’s Kyle Bartley are managing more than 6.1 this season.) No wonder fan site Deepdale Digest has noticed <https://www.deepdaledigest.com/analysis ... am-forest/> that the defence tends to “collapse” when he’s out.

The problem might be that he’s no stranger to being out injured; a ruptured Achilles last December ended his season, and he was subbed after 20 minutes v Forest after stretching the tendon in a slide tackle. He did return for the next game (after the international break), but that must be a worry for PNE and any potential suitors. Bosmanned in 2019 from Charlton – for whom he’d just scored the promotion-clinching winner - he’s played 88 tier-2 and 105 tier-3 games.

Andrew Hughes (left-back/centre-back, 29) - Although only 6ft dead, Hughes is winning more aerial duels (4.2) per 90 than Bauer this season, having been employed exclusively in McAvoy’s back three – previously he had been more often used at left-back. Joined PNE in 2018 from Posh, who he joined from Newport. 111 Champo games, 88 in L1.

Connor Wickham (striker, 28) - contract up in January - has played 25 minutes. 24 goals in 101 at Champo level, but 22 were before summer 2014. Did his hammy in October and was removed from the squad list. He’s 29 in March.

Tom Barkhuizen (winger/forward, 28) - the speedy forward has been laid low by Covid (“if I wasn’t double-jabbed, I would have been in intensive care”) but returned to do a remarkably honest interview in which he talked about setting up to “bore teams to death” and doing “absolutely nothing with the ball.” (Click here - it’s a great read). It’s a fascinating interview and one he felt moved to clarify - but only to say that he didn’t fall out with McAvoy’s predecessor Alex Neil. He scored 9 in 2019/20. PNE director Peter Ridsdale says contract negotiations are under way but “We haven't yet got to a number that works for both parties”.

Connor Ripley (GK, 28) - former Boro goalie who’s had nine loan spells from his two parent clubs, for whom he’s played five league games in a decade.

Joe Rafferty (RB, 28) - 6ft Scouser (ex Liverpool academy) who was only added to the 25-man squad when Wickham dropped out. Played 22 last term and 29 the season before, after stepping up from Rochdale, where he’d been Player of the Year. Has also played a few dozen games at left-back and filled in at centre-back and def-mid.

Izzy Brown (attacking mid, 24) signed in June and ruptured his achilles in July; still out. Maybe one to ponder in summer.

Jamie Thomas (striker, 24) - aye, our old lad. Left us in 2016 for Burnley, then went via Ayr, Squires Gate (me either), anxiety, depression, AFC Blackpool and Bamber Bridge to get a one-year deal at PNE after scoring in a trial match v Accy. PNE gave hime his only 7 senior minutes in English football at the arse-end of a 3-0 EFL Cup win at Mansfield.

Mathew Hudson (GK, 23) - 6ft4 keeper, PNE acad grad. One hour’s on-pitch experience in men’s football, barring four Sherpa Sh!tshow games on loan at Bury.

Jack Baxter (centre-mid, 21) loaned over past 12 months to Stalybridge, Cork and Radcliffe Borough.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:59 pm

I'm only waiting for West Brom.. 8)

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:18 pm

We had VSO on trial and turned him down.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... ger-trial/

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by brommers95 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:22 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:18 pm
We had VSO on trial and turned him down.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1 ... ger-trial/
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:23 pm

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*facepalm emoji*
Not Evatt's finest call, that one.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by brommers95 » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:48 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:23 pm
brommers95 wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:22 pm
*facepalm emoji*
Not Evatt's finest call, that one.
I get his point about free agents taking weeks to get up to speed but we need all the help we can get at the minute even if they can only play 30 mins or so.

“The problem we have – and it is a problem – is by the time you get the lads who have not had clubs up to speed, it’s January,”

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:56 pm

brommers95 wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:48 pm
I get his point about free agents taking weeks to get up to speed but we need all the help we can get at the minute even if they can only play 30 mins or so.

“The problem we have – and it is a problem – is by the time you get the lads who have not had clubs up to speed, it’s January,”
Were we not in a massive crisis it would be a positive. The idea that we are happy to let a player like that go shows we want better. Fantastic.....if we had more than 12 players.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Prufrock » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:21 pm

He's a winger though right? Arguably the only place we've got any depth! Dapo, Amaechi, Kachunga, Delf. Luxury!
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by GhostoftheBok » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:29 pm

Prufrock wrote:
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He's a winger though right? Arguably the only place we've got any depth! Dapo, Amaechi, Kachunga, Delf. Luxury!
Yeah, but a number of those players could fill in at 10 for us and so he'd have been de facto midfield depth.

Either way, it's done now.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:30 pm

Interesting that we had a free agent on trial after he'd said he wasn't interested in freebies.

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by officer_dibble » Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:58 pm

I mean do they just need some bodies for 5 a side in training? I’ve got a team at work that will give them a game?

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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:58 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:58 pm
I mean do they just need some bodies for 5 a side in training? I’ve got a team at work that will give them a game?
Training, now there's a thing. How many potential players have we fit to work out anything positive as planned strategy? Training just must be affected by our casualty list. Evatt really has an unenviable job on right now.

Hark back to the days when subs were unheard of.We lost a Cup Final at Wembley by carrying an injured Eric Bell because of it. ( he actually scored limping) . In 1965-66 when subs were first allowed, for two seasons, only one sub was allowed and that only to replace an injured player.
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by LeverEnd » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:24 pm

Keith peacock was the first wasn't he Tango?
Training wise, it's actually simplified things I imagine!
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:43 pm

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Keith peacock was the first wasn't he Tango?
Against us I think.
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:18 am

LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:24 pm
Keith peacock was the first wasn't he Tango?
Training wise, it's actually simplified things I imagine!
Thanks for reminding me of a name I'd forgotten mate. I'm pretty sure Nat would have got a red card today for helping United keeper Harry Greg into the nets in the 58 Cup Final. :D
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Re: Summer 2021 Transfer Thread.

Post by LeverEnd » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:09 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Fri Nov 26, 2021 9:18 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 10:24 pm
Keith peacock was the first wasn't he Tango?
Training wise, it's actually simplified things I imagine!
Thanks for reminding me of a name I'd forgotten mate. I'm pretty sure Nat would have got a red card today for helping United keeper Harry Greg into the nets in the 58 Cup Final. :D
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Post by brommers95 » Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:42 pm

New thread created for the January window

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:14 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:58 pm

Hark back to the days when subs were unheard of.We lost a Cup Final at Wembley by carrying an injured Eric Bell because of it. ( he actually scored limping) . In 1965-66 when subs were first allowed, for two seasons, only one sub was allowed and that only to replace an injured player.

And Ralph Gubbins (who the younger Bruce had the the monumental joy of training alongside) never got to play in the 58 final as Lofty was fit, despite having scored both goals in the semi to get us there.

And the miserable bastards at the FA wouldn't give him a Winner's medal, despite appeals from the club.
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