The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 11, 2021 12:06 pm

Tell you something too - second half when Baka came on we went direct. Evatt referenced in his post match 'you can't always play nice football' and bringing Baka on allowed us to stop trying to play out from the back. We looked far better going direct - we won second balls and then played from there. I do think we need to do that more this season - we struggled with Barnsley's press and I suspect that will happen often.

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
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League 2 team at home in the next round, followed by one of the big Prem teams away in round 3 would be my preference.
Aye. The teams in European competition, including two or three glamorous near-neighbours, enter at third-round stage and are still likely to play their kids or reserves, precisely because they're in Europe.

Imagine how much Evatt would love to face (or indeed meet) Guardiola or Bielsa. He'd be buzzing like a f*cked fridge.
I know we'd get 45% of gate revenues as well, so from a pure financial point of view I suppose we'd want United, Arsenal, Spurs or Liverpool away.

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:51 pm

Balls! Here's the numbers for tonight's draw:


1. Accrington Stanley
2. Aston Villa
3. Barrow
4. Bolton Wanderers
5. Burnley
6. Crewe Alexandra
7. Derby County
8. Doncaster Rovers
9. Everton
10. Huddersfield Town
11. Leeds United
12. Morecambe
13. Newcastle United
14. Oldham Athletic
15. Preston North End
16. Rochdale
17. Sheffield United
18. Shrewsbury Town
19. Stoke City
20. Sunderland AFC
21. Wigan Athletic
22. Wolverhampton Wanderers
23. Blackpool/Middlesbrough
24. Nottingham Forest/Bradford City

(So no Norwich-Barrow derby, but the chance of a Wanderers-Wanderers match)

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:55 pm

Be nice to get through another round for me and see if we can draw a real big fish - for the money and just for a fun away trip. Long shot though.

Away to Rochdale always good - though we usually lose.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:01 pm

Interesting we had seven corners last night. Be nice to have made one count...
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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

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Be nice to get through another round for me and see if we can draw a real big fish - for the money and just for a fun away trip. Long shot though.

Away to Rochdale always good - though we usually lose.
I'm with you – I'd prefer as low a team as possible, allowing for more rotation – by then, as-yet unused players like Brockbank, Aimson, Senior, Tutte, Thomason, Comley, Crawford, Politic, Darcy might be itching for action. The following midweek is a Sherpa Van game at home to Port Vale, so they could get a couple of games in a week.

And then yeah, we can start thinking about a bigger name - the top seven enter at Third Round (making up a last 32).

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 11, 2021 2:47 pm

The other pengies, which weren't on the highlight reel:

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:05 pm

Also its bonkers that people seem to be voting for anyone other than MJ for man of the match last night. Williams was our standout (as I often find him to be) and I am scared we have absolutely nobody else like him.

I think he's easily able to play in the championship - real quality in all aspects. His passing was absolutely outstanding.

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:06 pm

Baka's was a bit scary....

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by The_Gun » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:11 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
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Baka's was a bit scary....
Baka's was rubbish... :D

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:13 pm

The_Gun wrote:
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Baka's was a bit scary....
Baka's was rubbish... :D
Couldn't go last night, think BEN described it as "coolly rolled it in"...having now seen it, that wasn't what I was expecting

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:19 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:13 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:11 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:06 pm
Baka's was a bit scary....
Baka's was rubbish... :D
Couldn't go last night, think BEN described it as "coolly rolled it in"...having now seen it, that wasn't what I was expecting
He kept it on the ground and put it near the corner. Not the best but certainly not the waist high no hopers you see from England players often. I'd say they were 5 good penalties. Keeper went right way for Baka's but couldn't stop it. I'd say that's fine.

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by Prufrock » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:27 pm

Wasn't convinced by Sarc when he stepped up. Rate him as a player and love his character but think he's not great technically.

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:28 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:19 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:13 pm
The_Gun wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:11 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:06 pm
Baka's was a bit scary....
Baka's was rubbish... :D
Couldn't go last night, think BEN described it as "coolly rolled it in"...having now seen it, that wasn't what I was expecting
He kept it on the ground and put it near the corner. Not the best but certainly not the waist high no hopers you see from England players often. I'd say they were 5 good penalties. Keeper went right way for Baka's but couldn't stop it. I'd say that's fine.
Well, yeah. Just the text didn't convey what I've just watched...

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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:35 pm

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Wasn't convinced by Sarc when he stepped up. Rate him as a player and love his character but think he's not great technically.

Ha! What a fecking pen.
Really? I think he's very technically gifted. Odd how people see things differently.

All 5 looked confident stepping up which was great to see.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:01 pm

https://twitter.com/BWFCStats/status/14 ... 50/photo/1

Stats from last night. Passing much more evenly spread around the back four - although Flash was much more accurate than Gethin.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:18 pm

^^I'd say because Gethin raided forward at every opportunity and Gordon was far more cautious.

Gordon is an interesting one because he had a solid enough game last night but I feel he's still not quite at the pace and intensity for this level and often Santos was barking at him because positionally he seemed to not really know where he had to be in defence.

I think he's got some great attributes and his recovery is top drawer - the best we've seen since Ricardo Gardner. But he still needs something extra I think. Just a bit more oomph in how he plays. Its a bit like he's in 2nd gear and scared to move out of it.

EDIT: As I typed this an interview from IE came out where he says LG needs to believe in himself more. Think that probably sums it up - from where I was sat.
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Re: The Cup rests on the Bar: Barnsley (H), League Cup, Tue 10 Aug @ 8pm

Post by Prufrock » Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:20 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:35 pm
Prufrock wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 3:27 pm
Wasn't convinced by Sarc when he stepped up. Rate him as a player and love his character but think he's not great technically.

Ha! What a fecking pen.
Really? I think he's very technically gifted. Odd how people see things differently.

All 5 looked confident stepping up which was great to see.
His first touch is usually knee height :D And I don't think he's great at the technical stuff in tight spaces, quite often snatches at shots etc

It's all relative, this is probably the best group we've had technically in a long time, and he probably just isn't quite at the level (though he has plenty other attributes) as say Lee or Sheehan.

They all have weaknesses to some degree (or they wouldn't be here). MJ for example is probably a bit more pace and athleticism away from being a top half Champo player.
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