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Post by truewhite15 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:39 pm

Not sure I agree with the comments on Brockbank. He looked a perfectly able RB deputy to me, as did Gordon.

Delf improved in the 2nd half, which I'm happy to see. Kachunga was really neither here nor there, both out wide and in the middle. Thought Tutte and Thomason both had decent games.

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Post by Prufrock » Wed Sep 01, 2021 12:58 am

I f*cking told you all Dapo was the real deal, btw.
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Post by sonicthewhite » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:29 am

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I wonder if he'll give Tutte and Thomasson a run out together in the middle tonight? Can't keep relying on MJ.
I was surprised that he did indeed go with Tutte and Thomasson though by account they worked well overall together, and onviously they were ring rusty. I think IE did well to keep most of the core spine in place ie Doyle, Sarce, Santos, Dixon.

All in all an overall good performance. Team minutes gained, goals scored, goals conceded (which give a training focus for the coaches to deal with and to top it off the run out for som ebrings them that little bit closerr to full first team fitness.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:47 am

sonicthewhite wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:29 am
sonicthewhite wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:08 pm
I wonder if he'll give Tutte and Thomasson a run out together in the middle tonight? Can't keep relying on MJ.
I was surprised that he did indeed go with Tutte and Thomasson though by account they worked well overall together, and onviously they were ring rusty. I think IE did well to keep most of the core spine in place ie Doyle, Sarce, Santos, Dixon.

All in all an overall good performance. Team minutes gained, goals scored, goals conceded (which give a training focus for the coaches to deal with and to top it off the run out for som ebrings them that little bit closerr to full first team fitness.
Sarce and Dixon didn’t start?

Beyond all that I’m not sure I’d describe it as a good performance playing a second string League two side potentially highlighted areas where we lack strength in depth. Or quality in depth if you like. But the job was done. I’d definitely like to see some of these lads improve especially the younger ones who both for me seemingly have gone backwards somewhat.

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Post by Riviman » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:49 am

sonicthewhite wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:29 am
sonicthewhite wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:08 pm
I wonder if he'll give Tutte and Thomasson a run out together in the middle tonight? Can't keep relying on MJ.
I was surprised that he did indeed go with Tutte and Thomasson though by account they worked well overall together, and onviously they were ring rusty. I think IE did well to keep most of the core spine in place ie Doyle, Sarce, Santos, Dixon.

All in all an overall good performance. Team minutes gained, goals scored, goals conceded (which give a training focus for the coaches to deal with and to top it off the run out for som ebrings them that little bit closerr to full first team fitness.
Sarce came on late during the game, Dixon unfortunately didn't play !!
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Post by sonicthewhite » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:25 am

Sarce and Dixon didn’t start?
My bad, misread the paper. IE did well to keep half the spine in :lol:
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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:40 am

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I f*cking told you all Dapo was the real deal, btw.
Based on the highlight replays, his goal was deserving of high praise. He had no time to set up the shot, there were defenders growing like rhubarb all around him, and hitting the inside of the post showed how fine the angle of aim was; a couple of inches each way and either the keeper would have reached it or it would have been wide. Great work in the assist too. Altogether a fine goal. :pray:
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:42 am

First time I've had a chance to catch up with the highlights.

Perhaps best we don't get embroiled in a seven page goalie discussion again. ;)

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:52 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:42 am
First time I've had a chance to catch up with the highlights.

Perhaps best we don't get embroiled in a seven page goalie discussion again. ;)

It was appalling goalkeeping for both goals and indeed the scramble at the end. No idea what is going on there. Possibly needs a few reserve games to get up to speed but he came in from the cold far far better last season. Perhaps the injury and op over the summer have taken their toll?

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Post by officer_dibble » Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:11 pm

He’s certainly not pushing for his first team spot back let’s put it that way.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:26 pm

On their 2nd goal as it happened, i was more disappointed with Santos letting the striker get his shot away, than i was with Gilkes not stopping it.

At least last night highlighted we don't have strength in depth and it'll be another 2 or 3 windows before we've moved folk on and brought better in.

Oh and Isgrove was great again.
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Post by LeverEnd » Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:29 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
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On their 2nd goal as it happened, i was more disappointed with Santos letting the striker get his shot away, than i was with Gilkes not stopping it.

At least last night highlighted we don't have strength in depth and it'll be another 2 or 3 windows before we've moved folk on and brought better in.

Oh and Isgrove was great again.
Santos kept him wide, and made it a more difficult angle which you'd expect any pro keeper to deal with. All Gilks that for me.
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Post by LeverEnd » Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:29 pm

I'd have saved it.... Ok maybe not with my eyesight. :shock:
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:01 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:29 pm
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 1:26 pm
On their 2nd goal as it happened, i was more disappointed with Santos letting the striker get his shot away, than i was with Gilkes not stopping it.

At least last night highlighted we don't have strength in depth and it'll be another 2 or 3 windows before we've moved folk on and brought better in.

Oh and Isgrove was great again.
Santos kept him wide, and made it a more difficult angle which you'd expect any pro keeper to deal with. All Gilks that for me.
First impressions only, the defence appeared slow to react and yes, Gilkes will be gutted to be beaten at his near post. However, it was hit hard and with the light ball there's always a chance it goes in. Forcing someone wide is pointless if they can still get a shot on target. I say that as a former centre half of note in the Horwich Sunday League :D
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:04 pm

Both PV goals were dreadful all round. Defending and keeping. Not having that Santos 'kept him wide' he needed to get closer and try and block the angle. But even then Gilks should save it.

The first goal I thought had been deflected but that was even worse goalkeeping looking at the replay.

The defending for the first goal is some of the worst you will see too.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:19 pm

Their 1st goal was definitely deflected. Gilkes was certainly going the right way when it flicked off someone and changed direction.
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Post by LeverEnd » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:43 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
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Their 1st goal was definitely deflected. Gilkes was certainly going the right way when it flicked off someone and changed direction.
Couldn't see from the replay angle but you'd hope it was deflected looking at poor old Gilks.
Re Santos, not saying it was great defending but he didn't get turned inside out and made the guy shoot from an angle that you'd expect a keeper to cover.
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Their 1st goal was definitely deflected. Gilkes was certainly going the right way when it flicked off someone and changed direction.
Slowed the video down and don't see a deflection. If there was it was very very slight.

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Post by DJBlu » Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:14 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:50 pm
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:19 pm
Their 1st goal was definitely deflected. Gilkes was certainly going the right way when it flicked off someone and changed direction.
Slowed the video down and don't see a deflection. If there was it was very very slight.
Deflects off Thomasson, was going near post but then goes to the left. Goal either way so meh.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:21 pm

DJBlu wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:14 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:50 pm
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:19 pm
Their 1st goal was definitely deflected. Gilkes was certainly going the right way when it flicked off someone and changed direction.
Slowed the video down and don't see a deflection. If there was it was very very slight.
Deflects off Thomasson, was going near post but then goes to the left. Goal either way so meh.
Slow it down - far as I can see it goes in at the near post - think it clips the inside of that post.

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