FA Cup 1st Round Replay..: Stocky Tony’s County Away..Stockport replay Wednesday 17th live BBC 2

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:37 am

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Watched the Pies v Solihull last night on telly-box. They struggled for most of the game, to unlock the defence (without being "under the cosh"). We would do well to ensure we don't think this is a gimmie. If we're not up for this, we will find the distance between hero and zero is incredibly small.
Its got banana skin written all over it. As you say have to be on top of our games and focus. If we are we win. But slip just a little and its danger territory.

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Watched the Pies v Solihull last night on telly-box. They struggled for most of the game, to unlock the defence (without being "under the cosh"). We would do well to ensure we don't think this is a gimmie. If we're not up for this, we will find the distance between hero and zero is incredibly small.
Its got banana skin written all over it. As you say have to be on top of our games and focus. If we are we win. But slip just a little and its danger territory.
I think the first game told everyone that. If they're not focused after that, then they never will be.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:44 am

When's the last time we were live on terrestrial telly? Elton Welsby era?

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Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:47 am

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When's the last time we were live on terrestrial telly? Elton Welsby era?
Fa cup semi maybe? Although as I recall that game never happened.
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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:54 am

KeyserSoze wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:47 am
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When's the last time we were live on terrestrial telly? Elton Welsby era?
Fa cup semi maybe? Although as I recall that game never happened.
I think we've all got FA Cup semis now...

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Post by The_Gun » Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:57 am

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Personally I though Sheehan was excellent against Crewe, so I’d not be dropping him.

Strongest available XI selected and hopefully a hammering doled out in front of the tv cameras.
I'd give Lee a rest. I'd rather we didn't push him to three games on the bounce and I think we could use his experience away at Wycombe.

No complaints with whatever line-up, though. We have plenty of quality to beat Stockport, it'll be about the mental side of the game as to who wins it.
Yes, point taken. Perhaps you're right in that we'd be better served resting Lee for Wycombe. In light of that I'd go:

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:51 pm

How many games in a row has Dapo played?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:57 pm

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How many games in a row has Dapo played?
Eight. But if you exclude the Sherpa Sh!tshow (he came on as sub in the first group game, sat out the second and started the last) he's started all but one game this season. Across all comps (even the runt one), only MJ has played more minutes, and then only 15 more.
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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:05 pm

In that case I'd worry about playing Dapo tonight too.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:14 pm

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In that case I'd worry about playing Dapo tonight too.

Are you going to tell him? I wouldn't want to. :mrgreen:
He's just stated he loves being on T.V..
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Post by Prufrock » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:18 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:47 am
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Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:44 am
When's the last time we were live on terrestrial telly? Elton Welsby era?
Fa cup semi maybe? Although as I recall that game never happened.
Not *that* one I don't think. It was my grandad's 80th so I missed it, and we watched it upstairs on his computer so I assume dodgy stream rather than TV.

We did, I think, watch the one before, which I missed for his 70th birthday :roll: (which also didn't happen) on TV so that would be my starting point.

I have a sneaking feeling the Liverpool FA Cup replay, Matt Mills up front, might have been on BBC, though I watched it in a pub (I think with Crayons) so not sure.
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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:19 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:14 pm
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In that case I'd worry about playing Dapo tonight too.

Are you going to tell him? I wouldn't want to. :mrgreen:
He's just stated he loves being on T.V..
I have no doubt he'll start, but match after match after match isn't good in any position - least of all on the wing.

They'll have all the physical data, though, so it's the staff's call.

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Post by The_Gun » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:20 pm

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Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:05 pm
In that case I'd worry about playing Dapo tonight too.
Whilst I'm conscious of not being too binary about this, I would say he has to start if we're taking this competition seriously.

Also Tango actually makes a valid point there: is Evatt going to risk denying him the chance to shine in front of a national tv audience?

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:26 pm

The_Gun wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:20 pm
GhostoftheBok wrote:
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In that case I'd worry about playing Dapo tonight too.
Whilst I'm conscious of not being too binary about this, I would say he has to start if we're taking this competition seriously.

Also Tango actually makes a valid point there: is Evatt going to risk denying him the chance to shine in front of a national tv audience?
Is Evatt going to risk his own brand by not playing our strongest 11 on national TV? Probably not. I think in a battle between those two egos Evatt's would put Dapo's in the hospital.

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:28 pm

Personally and depending who is fit, I'd play: Dixon, Izzy, Santos, Aimson, Gordon, Williams, Sheehan, Thomason, Kachunga, Delf and Baka.

I expect to see the same team that beat Crewe.

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:05 pm

Why would we rest someone? Don't see Liverpool historically resting Salah, Mane etc..

Strongest team, please.

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:14 pm

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Why would we rest someone? Don't see Liverpool historically resting Salah, Mane etc..

Strongest team, please.
Salah and Mane play fewer games over a season than a player would at this level if they played in all cup competitions, because they get rested for most stages of the domestic cups. Equally, Firmino does get rested, usually for Jota, as his fitness levels and needs are different.

Like I say, the staff at the club will have the data from the players and make better determinations than I could sat here on my couch.

It may be that Dapo is ridiculously fit and his numbers are fine even playing 2 games a week.

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:28 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:14 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:05 pm
Why would we rest someone? Don't see Liverpool historically resting Salah, Mane etc..

Strongest team, please.
Salah and Mane play fewer games over a season than a player would at this level if they played in all cup competitions, because they get rested for most stages of the domestic cups. Equally, Firmino does get rested, usually for Jota, as his fitness levels and needs are different.

Like I say, the staff at the club will have the data from the players and make better determinations than I could sat here on my couch.

It may be that Dapo is ridiculously fit and his numbers are fine even playing 2 games a week.
We played 51 last season. Salah has played 51, 48, 52, 52, last 4 completed seasons. Firmino, 48, 52, 48, 54. Of course those are appearances, rather than did they play the full 90.

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:33 pm

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We played 51 last season. Salah has played 51, 48, 52, 52, last 4 completed seasons. Firmino, 48, 52, 48, 54. Of course those are appearances, rather than did they play the full 90.
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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:42 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:33 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:28 pm
We played 51 last season. Salah has played 51, 48, 52, 52, last 4 completed seasons. Firmino, 48, 52, 48, 54. Of course those are appearances, rather than did they play the full 90.
I sit corrected.
If he's got a hat-trick by half-time, to add to a couple from Doyle/Baka, he can have the second half off... :-)

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