Over (Keith) Hill and down the 'Dale....EFL Trophy vs Rochdale (Happened Yesterday. What is time anyway?)

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Re: Over (Keith) Hill and down the 'Dale....EFL Trophy vs Rochdale (Happened Yesterday. What is time anyway?)

Post by brommers95 » Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:36 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:37 pm
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Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:21 pm
What's the betting we get Rotherham...
We're safe for the next round - they too topped their group and thus, like us, get a home game. We can't play Port Vale again so our visitors could be:

**Donny (23rd, D3)
Fleetwood (22nd, D3)
Harrogate (7th, D4)
Hartlepool (10th, D4)
Lincoln (13th, D3)
Oldham (22nd, D4)
*Shrewsbury (21st, D3) or Wigan (1st, D3)

*who face off tomorrow in Salop; only a Wigan win sees them through
**we'd have to postpone the game for a laugh
Nice to see all Prem academy sides have been knocked out in the Northern half of the draw, almost feels like the old competition format.

The southern EFL clubs letting the side down slightly with a maximum of five Prem teams still able to qualify for the round of 32 from that side of the draw, depending on the result of Walsall v Forest Green tomorrow night.

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Re: Over (Keith) Hill and down the 'Dale....EFL Trophy vs Rochdale (Happened Yesterday. What is time anyway?)

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:48 pm

Aye. I wrote for FFT about the Big Academies’ almost total failure in this trophy, now thoroughly devalued partly by their involvement and partly by the EFL’s parallel and well-meant but utterly contradictory insistence that lower-league clubs can’t use too many of their own academy lads (the “Qualified Player” stuff). A shame; we had some good times in this comp and could do so again, but it’s now a right mess.

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Re: Over (Keith) Hill and down the 'Dale....EFL Trophy vs Rochdale (Happened Yesterday. What is time anyway?)

Post by Prufrock » Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:56 pm

It doesn't even make sense on its own, bad terms. Games tonight...how many of the best category 1 young uns are getting good experience against adults tonight? Almost none.. It's international week and they're all going playing youth games there. A catastrophe.
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Re: Over (Keith) Hill and down the 'Dale....EFL Trophy vs Rochdale (Happened Yesterday. What is time anyway?)

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:37 am

I was at an event at the football museum in Manchester years ago and had a chat to some of the higher-ups about this putting the kid sides into cups idea. Basically their position was that the most important part of development is the elite side of it and that the best combination is lads being coached by top coaches at top facilities, but still having access to adult football matches. The suggestion even then was that the trophy comp was the best level to bring the kids sides into and the alternative was to form 'B' teams of the top clubs and add them into the pyramid, splitting League Two into a north/south division.

The question they had was how to give the cup enough credibility for it not to be prem academies vs lower league academies. They went with rules in the end. My suggestion was that every elite club putting their academy in the comp should have to pay in a good whack of money to be shared out as prize money for the various stages....which drew a laugh and then indignation.

If the prize money were considerably higher and the cup genuinely helped clubs in the lower two leagues, they'd take it seriously. If the elite academies feel its "vital" to development, as they said at the time, then they should be willing to put proper money into it.

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Re: Over (Keith) Hill and down the 'Dale....EFL Trophy vs Rochdale (Happened Yesterday. What is time anyway?)

Post by brommers95 » Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:54 pm

Fleetwood at home in the next round. Game will most likely be played on Tue November 30th.

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Re: Over (Keith) Hill and down the 'Dale....EFL Trophy vs Rochdale (Happened Yesterday. What is time anyway?)

Post by The_Gun » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:12 pm

brommers95 wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:54 pm
Fleetwood at home in the next round. Game will most likely be played on Tue November 30th.
Not the best draw, but a very winnable fixture nonetheless. Perhaps they might rest players given their current predicament in the league?

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