Dem Bones, Dem Bones, Dem Bare Bones....

[GhostoftheBok]

Need to hope that Dempsey isn't out.

[nicholaldo]

I'd completely missed MJ Williams' injury.

Was that done in training this week or something?

[BWFC_Insane]

I'd completely missed MJ Williams' injury.

Was that done in training this week or something?

Think it’s some thing that’s been going on a while. Doesn’t sound like a major thing.

[GhostoftheBok]

Randy may not be back for Saturday. We are "monitoring" John.

[BWFC_Insane]

Randy may not be back for Saturday. We are "monitoring" John.

At this stage of the season Allardyce wrapped the squad up and did little training and prioritised keeping people rested and fit.

I’d suggest Evatt does the same. No point pushing people to long lay offs. Indoor stuff, gym work, tactical work and rehab stuff for me. Do everything possible to minimise further injuries.

[brommers95]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this is the state of play with current injuries.

On 5th Feb Evatt said MJ Williams would be out for 3-4 weeks.

On Jack Iredale, this Evatt quote is from the 5th Jan:

He has picked up quite a significant injury...he has actually got a tear of his lateral meniscus, which we will find out on Monday whether that will need surgery – and it is likely it will. Either way it will be 10 weeks to four months, so quite a significant one.”

[brommers95]

Forgot about George Johnston

Not likely to see him until March at the earliest:

https://www.burndenaces.co.uk/2023/02/0 ... ealed.html

[GhostoftheBok]

The fact the training pitches at Lostock have been causing injuries is both unsurprising and concerning.

There are various things that could be said, but ultimately a professional team with Premier League aspirations needs a proper training facility. We haven't come close to dealing with the loss of Euxton and we will have to fairly soon. No idea how, on our budgets.

[Worthy4England]

The fact the training pitches at Lostock have been causing injuries is both unsurprising and concerning.

There are various things that could be said, but ultimately a professional team with Premier League aspirations needs a proper training facility. We haven't come close to dealing with the loss of Euxton and we will have to fairly soon. No idea how, on our budgets.

Don't disagree that the training facilities need to be up to muster, but are we sure it's the pitches that are causing the injuries? That would be a concern, because I think there's also a view that the intensity of the training is in part the problem, especially with new signings, who seem to have a deep and rich history of picking up at least a muscle tear in the first couple of week after signing...

[BWFC_Insane]

The fact the training pitches at Lostock have been causing injuries is both unsurprising and concerning.

There are various things that could be said, but ultimately a professional team with Premier League aspirations needs a proper training facility. We haven't come close to dealing with the loss of Euxton and we will have to fairly soon. No idea how, on our budgets.

Don't disagree that the training facilities need to be up to muster, but are we sure it's the pitches that are causing the injuries? That would be a concern, because I think there's also a view that the intensity of the training is in part the problem, especially with new signings, who seem to have a deep and rich history of picking up at least a muscle tear in the first couple of week after signing...

Evatt said the softness of the pitches were causing back spasms - Bradley and Cameron Jerome both had back spasms through training on the pitches.

So seems like they are.

I'd like investment in the pitches but also sports science areas. We seem pretty behind - when a manager is saying soft muscle injuries are because 'we're asking players to show intensity' then we need a sports science team who are actively monitoring and managing training load and intensity to avoid picking these up. We need more recovery kit too - I feel its an area we are behind on.

Allardyce was way ahead of the game with his team and Evatt seemingly doesn't have that sort of expertise behind him at the club. Its such a massively important area. We have analysis teams - which is good, but nothing on sports science or recovery.

[boltonboris]

I think it's more to do with budget mate - The club is pinching every penny they can currently in ever available area to cope with rising playing costs and pitches.

I mean, the club is willing to gamble £36,000 a year of savings on a bus service, even though they accept that they could lose more than they'd save in ticket and matchday revenue if 150 people don't renew

I think adding to the staff count is low on the priorities of the board. Find the advantages with what you have at your disposal is the message

[BWFC_Insane]

I think it's more to do with budget mate - The club is pinching every penny they can currently in ever available area to cope with rising playing costs and pitches.

I mean, the club is willing to gamble £36,000 a year of savings on a bus service, even though they accept that they could lose more than they'd save in ticket and matchday revenue if 150 people don't renew

I think adding to the staff count is low on the priorities of the board. Find the advantages with what you have at your disposal is the message

Yeah sure. Its about slowly doing it over time. And as revenue (hopefully) improves. But this stuff pays for itself over time.

One person who can assess physical conditioning and load and advise on training and recovery plans would do a lot I suspect.

I agree we're simply trying to maximise what we've got and that's obviously the necessity but we shouldn't hopefully long term be doing that and given the number of new players come in and get injured because 'we've worked them too hard' I'd say its critical we find some of this expertise if we at all can.

[Worthy4England]

The fact the training pitches at Lostock have been causing injuries is both unsurprising and concerning.

There are various things that could be said, but ultimately a professional team with Premier League aspirations needs a proper training facility. We haven't come close to dealing with the loss of Euxton and we will have to fairly soon. No idea how, on our budgets.

Don't disagree that the training facilities need to be up to muster, but are we sure it's the pitches that are causing the injuries? That would be a concern, because I think there's also a view that the intensity of the training is in part the problem, especially with new signings, who seem to have a deep and rich history of picking up at least a muscle tear in the first couple of week after signing...

Evatt said the softness of the pitches were causing back spasms - Bradley and Cameron Jerome both had back spasms through training on the pitches.

So seems like they are.

I'd like investment in the pitches but also sports science areas. We seem pretty behind - when a manager is saying soft muscle injuries are because 'we're asking players to show intensity' then we need a sports science team who are actively monitoring and managing training load and intensity to avoid picking these up. We need more recovery kit too - I feel its an area we are behind on.

Allardyce was way ahead of the game with his team and Evatt seemingly doesn't have that sort of expertise behind him at the club. Its such a massively important area. We have analysis teams - which is good, but nothing on sports science or recovery.

Cheers mate. I'd missed the Evatt bit. Oh for the days of pitches where the mud leaked over your heavily dubbined boots and you just ploughed through it!

[GhostoftheBok]

Geth has a slight hamstring strain and Dempsey "rolled his ankle" according to the post-match from Evatt.

Bother.

[boltonboris]

Was worried Dempsey had broken his foot. When he stayed down, there were audible gasps from behind the goal.

Hope it’s nothing a few days of rehab can’t fix

[GhostoftheBok]

Was worried Dempsey had broken his foot. When he stayed down, there were audible gasps from behind the goal.

Hope it’s noting a few days of rehab can’t fix

It's us. It'll be a ligament strain and 6 weeks out.

[DJBlu]

Was worried Dempsey had broken his foot. When he stayed down, there were audible gasps from behind the goal.

Hope it’s noting a few days of rehab can’t fix

It's us. It'll be a ligament strain and 6 weeks out.

Did he walk off? I missed it. If so then ankle ligament strain is pretty hard to walk on.

Grasping at the straws.

[Tails07]

Was worried Dempsey had broken his foot. When he stayed down, there were audible gasps from behind the goal.

Hope it’s noting a few days of rehab can’t fix

It's us. It'll be a ligament strain and 6 weeks out.

Did he walk off? I missed it. If so then ankle ligament strain is pretty hard to walk on.

Grasping at the straws.

Slight jog round the edge of the pitch with the physio back to the bench so fingers crossed.

[boltonboris]

Was worried Dempsey had broken his foot. When he stayed down, there were audible gasps from behind the goal.

Hope it’s noting a few days of rehab can’t fix

It's us. It'll be a ligament strain and 6 weeks out.

Did he walk off? I missed it. If so then ankle ligament strain is pretty hard to walk on.

Grasping at the straws.

Slight jog round the edge of the pitch with the physio back to the bench so fingers crossed.

He immediately signalled with the finger roll to sub him, but then limped, then walked, then jogged and wanted to come back on, but his number was already up on the board

He’s been massive for us in the last few weeks

[GhostoftheBok]

We've done well to go on a 5 match winning run despite injuries, but I think today was one where those knocks caught up with us a bit. We looked leggy at times and I think this was the kind of game we signed Nlundulu for - a big lad who can break the box would have been just what the doctor ordered. We also missed Iredale today.

It's fine margins and you can always say "If only", but if we don't go up you can see where we need to make some changes so we're even more resilient to runs of injuries. More quality (and suitability) in midfield being an obvious one.