Stats

[Bruce Rioja]

DSB - in yer stats mine, does it list assists by player? Only, it occurred to me this morning that of our meagre 18 goals scored, Trafford's supplied the assist for (I think) two of 'em.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

DSB - in yer stats mine, does it list assists by player? Only, it occurred to me this morning that of our meagre 18 goals scored, Trafford's supplied the assist for (I think) two of 'em.

I've just looked this up and I am genuinely surprised by the top assister this season. Might give y'all a wee while to guess.

[Worthy4England]

Yeah it comes down to how you view the game I suppose. Watching a 20 pass move that results in us hitting the corner flag doesn't impress me much.

Last night, from whoscored @ 66 minutes (first subs) we had 4 shots, 3 off target, 1 blocked. @ 74 minutes (cavalry subs) we were still the same stat - and indeed all the way through to minute 81.

In the remainder of the game, we managed

12 shots, 6 on target, 4 blocked and 2 off target.

We didn't manage that last block playing purty nice ball football. I'd like to see more of the latter please.

Edit: Apols DSB

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Edit: Apols DSB

What for? No need to apologise...

[Bruce Rioja]

DSB - in yer stats mine, does it list assists by player? Only, it occurred to me this morning that of our meagre 18 goals scored, Trafford's supplied the assist for (I think) two of 'em.

I've just looked this up and I am genuinely surprised by the top assister this season. Might give y'all a wee while to guess.

I'd have thought it'd be Afolayan, but I guess from your surprise it isn't. Iredale, maybe?

[Prufrock]

Iredale would've been my guess, but my surprise would be the other way around to Brucie's given how long Dapo has been splinter gathering.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Both good guesses, neither right

[nicholaldo]

Dad Bod?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Dad Bod?

Nope

[Worthy4England]

Edit: Apols DSB

What for? No need to apologise...

I posted the answer, pre-edit

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Edit: Apols DSB

What for? No need to apologise...

I posted the answer, pre-edit

OIC! Well, I'm off out for the evening now, so I'm pasting the answer - or answers, league-only and all-comps - below in white, in case anyone wants to play.

Assists, all comps
Kachunga 5
Iredale 4
Lee 3
Bradley 3
Johnston 2
Afolayan 2
Bakayoko 2
Bodvarsson 2
Jones 1
Aimson 1
Trafford 1
Thomason 1
Isgrove 1

Assists, league only
Bradley 3
Kachunga 2
Afolayan 2
Iredale 2
Jones 1
Johnston 1
Trafford 1
Bakayoko 1
Bodvarsson 1
Thomason 1

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Evatt: “People get on at us about set plays, but we’ve got back in the game on Saturday with a set play and we’ve scored the winner (on Tuesday) from a set play, so we’re working hard to try and fix this.

“Some of it has worked, some of it hasn’t, but it’s another string to our bow that we’re working very hard to be added to our game.”

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Just noticed something interesting and counterintuitive.

According to Opta's L1 analysis, we have the division's fifth-highest "direct speed" - defined as "a measure of how quickly a team progresses the ball upfield (metres/second)". The only four teams who attack faster are Burton, Accy, Wycombe and Vale.

Last season, by contrast, we were the fifth-slowest (among those slower were MK Dons and Wigan).

Make of that what you will.

[TANGODANCER]

Just noticed something interesting and counterintuitive.

According to Opta's L1 analysis, we have the division's fifth-highest "direct speed" - defined as "a measure of how quickly a team progresses the ball upfield (metres/second)". The only four teams who attack faster are Burton, Accy, Wycombe and Vale.

Last season, by contrast, we were the fifth-slowest (among those slower were MK Dons and Wigan).

Make of that what you will.

Trafford, Kachunga, Net...must be in there..

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Just noticed something interesting and counterintuitive.

According to Opta's L1 analysis, we have the division's fifth-highest "direct speed" - defined as "a measure of how quickly a team progresses the ball upfield (metres/second)". The only four teams who attack faster are Burton, Accy, Wycombe and Vale.

Last season, by contrast, we were the fifth-slowest (among those slower were MK Dons and Wigan).

Make of that what you will.

Trafford, Kachunga, Net...must be in there..

Ha! Baka not Kacha - but yeah.

15 games in though, the odd late GET IT IN THE MIXER Hail-Mary shouldn't make too much difference. As I say, it's counterintuitive - like many others, I sigh or worse when we go sideways - but we are measurably going forward faster than last season.

[Worthy4England]

Just noticed something interesting and counterintuitive.

According to Opta's L1 analysis, we have the division's fifth-highest "direct speed" - defined as "a measure of how quickly a team progresses the ball upfield (metres/second)". The only four teams who attack faster are Burton, Accy, Wycombe and Vale.

Last season, by contrast, we were the fifth-slowest (among those slower were MK Dons and Wigan).

Make of that what you will.

Do we have to?

I'm not sure it tells us much, on the grounds that a sequence could end anywhere on the field. So we could be the quickest team in the world to go from Traff to Santos and that's 90% of our sequences, and the slowest at going from somewhere near the HW line to the box!

There's some stats for you to play with here:

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/08/leagu ... s-2022-23/

If you didn't know about it mate

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I'm not sure it tells us much, on the grounds that a sequence could end anywhere on the field. So we could be the quickest team in the world to go from Traff to Santos and that's 90% of our sequences, and the slowest at going from somewhere near the HW line to the box!

Not sure that makes any sense at all, practically. Unless Santos is losing the ball on each of those 90%. Which wouldn't lead to us being the playoffs...

Also, why the difference to last season?

There's some stats for you to play with here:

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2022/08/leagu ... s-2022-23/

If you didn't know about it mate

That's where I got it from - ta

[Worthy4England]

Well the 90% from Trafford to Santos, is self-evidently at one of the poles of the argument, aye. But even if it was Traff to Charles, it's no sort of indication of useful, being the quickest team in the division to lose it on the edge of the oppos box doesn't help much either. Which is what we used to do under Allardyce when Davo didn't win the header, but boy were we good at picking up the second phase, which would in this parlance be a second "sequence"

I think if they isolated sequences to speed in relation to a sequence that ended up as a shot (preferably on target), then it would make a much more meaningful measure...City for example are in the bottom right of slow and intricate. The speed they managed to achieve from their keeper isn't really relevant and they're absolutely capable of lightning quick counters.

So I'm still not sure of its value...

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Well the 90% from Trafford to Santos, is self-evidently at one of the poles of the argument, aye. But even if it was Traff to Charles, it's no sort of indication of useful, being the quickest team in the division to lose it on the edge of the oppos box doesn't help much either.

Indeed not - as would be suggested by the league positions of the four 'quicker' teams than us (Burton 23rd, Accy 19th, Wycombe 13th, Vale 15th). But people still seems to want us to get it forward more quickly.

I think if they isolated sequences to speed in relation to a sequence that ended up as a shot (preferably on target), then it would make a much more meaningful measure...

This may be of interest:
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[Worthy4England]

Yeah, I think I like that stat better other than it's a "shot or touch" in the oppos box...