"Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:18 pm

Only our second draw since the home Stockport game! (And the away Stockport game, sort of, but not really.)

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:19 pm

Results really didn't go for us either. Too many decent solid teams between 4th and 10th. I'm still sticking with 8th because we'll win a few more.
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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:20 pm

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Half time should have been about calming down and playing our football. I suspect it wasn’t we went gung ho and made a few mistakes and could have been two down.
Agreed on this. I actually thought half-time came at a useful point for us, we needed to regroup and get zen. But we came out looking very similar: they pressed us high, hoping we'd be rattled, and it worked and set the tone.

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:28 pm

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Too slow. Too much nonsense backwards and sideways.

Johnstone shocking.

Will we learn not to play in front of teams? Someone needs to seriously work on them. Too many turn round rather than commit. Not good.
You can't play in behind a team standing on the 18-yard line. And wanging in crosses is what they want. But I agree we didn't ask enough questions by passing.

Small side note - we play the ball slightly behind the player so often I'm starting to think it's purposeful. Surely instead we should be playing a yard in front of them, so they can power on and ask questions. I feel like a lot of players lost their nerve tonight.
For me there are two options. Pen them in and pummel the box. We’ve seen ourselves eventually you will crack most of the time. Or get down the sides and work opportunities that way. Too often we get John one and one and it goes back into midfield. And nothing much went down the other side second half as Aimson looks a bit useless and it meant Fossey had no foil.

Dapo was awful. But let’s be honest our weakness is still the centre of midfield and the back three. Big improvements still possible there. MJ and Morley for me both struggled to really impose themselves on the game tonight.

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:32 pm

I think they squeezed the defense and midfield well. They stopped us finding the gaps. We ignored Johnston overlapping a few times as well. MJ and Morley were ok tonight but when we went behind there wasn’t enough happening in front, and we lost our cool.

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:33 pm

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by bw@bw » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:39 pm

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Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:19 pm
Results really didn't go for us either. Too many decent solid teams between 4th and 10th. I'm still sticking with 8th because we'll win a few more.
Could hardly have been a worse set of results.
Agree that 8th is still the most likely finish
As you said there are too many teams to climb past.

It’s a funny table
We are nearer to 5th place than we are to the team below us
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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:53 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:28 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:14 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:11 pm
Too slow. Too much nonsense backwards and sideways.

Johnstone shocking.

Will we learn not to play in front of teams? Someone needs to seriously work on them. Too many turn round rather than commit. Not good.
You can't play in behind a team standing on the 18-yard line. And wanging in crosses is what they want. But I agree we didn't ask enough questions by passing.

Small side note - we play the ball slightly behind the player so often I'm starting to think it's purposeful. Surely instead we should be playing a yard in front of them, so they can power on and ask questions. I feel like a lot of players lost their nerve tonight.
For me there are two options. Pen them in and pummel the box. We’ve seen ourselves eventually you will crack most of the time. Or get down the sides and work opportunities that way. Too often we get John one and one and it goes back into midfield. And nothing much went down the other side second half as Aimson looks a bit useless and it meant Fossey had no foil.

Dapo was awful. But let’s be honest our weakness is still the centre of midfield and the back three. Big improvements still possible there. MJ and Morley for me both struggled to really impose themselves on the game tonight.
You may want to watch Morley a little closer. Absolutely bossed the first 45. Struggled more in second half as he was like the Lone Ranger. Think he made more passes than anyone and over half of what Morecambe managed in 90 minutes. More I watch, more I think Morley and Dempsey are our best two.

I actually thought Flossie had one of his poorer games overall, his control let him down a lot.

Dapo, really not in right position for me. He's looked sub-par against his high standard since we adopted this new system...

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:54 pm

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If Charles puts that chance away - at least the third golden chance he's missed in two games, BTW - then we go on to win comfortably IMO, unless they manage to con the ref into four red cards. But if me aunty were me uncle...

It's goals that count. Says it. And thus the Fyfes waggon spilled bananas over our paths, off our boots and we even headed some. Best teams, best players, what matter, all that does is the score, and boy did we show how not to do that. They didn't score, we almost presented them with the softest three points ever. We were lucky, to say the least. This was a game we were supposed to walk. Credit to their keeper who totally commanded his area and nullified our corners with ease.

I'd have had that Adams fella off before half time. If ever a man was asking . The whole lot of them were disgusting. I just hope we learn something. There's no option.....I hear the suggestion of playing Charles deeper, but he's a striker and wants to score. Dapo, he's on vacation and is having an attitude problem, where's the hunger? but he isn't alone. Dadbod needs to play from the off. Way to go even if we were lucky enough to get promoted, play like tonight in a league above and we'd soon be back down.
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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:54 pm

bw@bw wrote:
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We are nearer to 5th place than we are to the team below us
Great stat. Curious bunching. A lot of good teams in this division. Pity is only three of them will go up!

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:56 pm

Plenty left in it for next season as well!

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:07 pm

I've never in my life seen a side's performance turn from utter poetry to such absolute disjointed dogshit on the back of one under-hit backpass in all of my life.

Ah well, that's that then. I for one said that mid table would be a great achievement. It's just the hope the bastards give you.
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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:47 pm

Can't be arsed saying much about that.

We battered them for most of the first half, then handed them a goal. A lot of players didn't recover mentally from that. We stopped doing everything that was good about our first 40 minutes.

I still don't understand how Charles missed like he did. Holy god.

I had us finishing 5th. It's now 7th and my prediction was knowingly very optimistic.

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Prufrock » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:26 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:53 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:28 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:14 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:11 pm
Too slow. Too much nonsense backwards and sideways.

Johnstone shocking.

Will we learn not to play in front of teams? Someone needs to seriously work on them. Too many turn round rather than commit. Not good.
You can't play in behind a team standing on the 18-yard line. And wanging in crosses is what they want. But I agree we didn't ask enough questions by passing.

Small side note - we play the ball slightly behind the player so often I'm starting to think it's purposeful. Surely instead we should be playing a yard in front of them, so they can power on and ask questions. I feel like a lot of players lost their nerve tonight.
For me there are two options. Pen them in and pummel the box. We’ve seen ourselves eventually you will crack most of the time. Or get down the sides and work opportunities that way. Too often we get John one and one and it goes back into midfield. And nothing much went down the other side second half as Aimson looks a bit useless and it meant Fossey had no foil.

Dapo was awful. But let’s be honest our weakness is still the centre of midfield and the back three. Big improvements still possible there. MJ and Morley for me both struggled to really impose themselves on the game tonight.
You may want to watch Morley a little closer. Absolutely bossed the first 45. Struggled more in second half as he was like the Lone Ranger. Think he made more passes than anyone and over half of what Morecambe managed in 90 minutes. More I watch, more I think Morley and Dempsey are our best two.

I actually thought Flossie had one of his poorer games overall, his control let him down a lot.

Dapo, really not in right position for me. He's looked sub-par against his high standard since we adopted this new system...
I had Morley the best of them by a long road tonight.
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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Prufrock » Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:26 am

officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:33 pm
officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:08 pm
Sutton have beaten Wigan
HAHAHA!!!
Just in case you missed it 😃
But Ha!!!
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That it's going to lose its mind
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Post by bw@bw » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:16 am

officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Mar 08, 2022 10:56 pm
Plenty left in it for next season as well!
So our promotion might not be a formality???
What goes around may still come around

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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Tails07 » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:54 am

We do seem to really struggle to play from the back against these type of teams too many times, it would start from the keeper, the wing backs would bomb on too far, Johnston and Santos would play a few sideways passes between themselves before going back to the keeper and slowly putting pressure on ourselves before a wayward pass and loosing the ball.

It's the same from throw-ins it never seems like we have enough people making space from throw-ins and the ball usually ends up back with Trafford from a offensive throw-in.

I think we need to work on finding space better rather than players reverting to there default position in the midfield and being marked out of the pass.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:16 am

Prufrock wrote:
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I had Morley the best of them by a long road tonight.
BWFC-I developed an instant dislike for Morley, which he's clinging to resolutely.

No body in a yellow shirt did more ball carrying last night or looked to create more than he did.

If you wait long enough he'll add that Trafford was shit too.
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Re: "Not necessarily in the right order" .Home v Morecambe, Tuesday, March 8th, 8-0'clock

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Mar 09, 2022 8:17 am

It's not Morley's fault he's not Faye.

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