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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:07 pm

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:15 pm

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:19 pm

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:21 pm

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:24 pm

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by Mar » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:25 pm

Quite the game we're having here. Hopefully a sign of things to come for the season.

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by jmjhb » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:28 pm

A bit different to last year when we were 1-0 down until the 70th minute

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:30 pm

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by Mar » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:32 pm

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Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:28 pm
A bit different to last year when we were 1-0 down until the 70th minute
Bit harder to score when they're 1-0 fighting for the clean sheet. Clearly tiredness and chasing the game has played a factor. Either way. Really good play.

Fingers crossed we get 10.

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:37 pm

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A bit different to last year when we were 1-0 down until the 70th minute
Full time and 9-0. Probably the difference this year is having a settled team.
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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:41 pm

Bit surprised Dapo, Dion, Baka and Dadbod weren't subbed. Seems a bit like a sledge-hammer to crack a walnut. But hey, as you mean to go on... :oyea:
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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by sonicthewhite » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:41 pm

They only played the second half Tango except for Baka who only played the first.
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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by Mar » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:50 pm

sonicthewhite wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:37 pm
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Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:28 pm
A bit different to last year when we were 1-0 down until the 70th minute
Full time and 9-0. Probably the difference this year is having a settled team.

Would have to agree with you there. Additional players have been brought in complimenting the system as Iredale and Bradley look like they're going to slot right in.

Step up in quality from the looks of it too. Last years squad featured a number of youth players which are now being swapped out with seasoned pros.

1st: Dixon, Jones, Aimson, Johnston, Gordon, Thomason, Sheehan, Sarcevic, Isgrove, Doyle, Delfouneso
2nd: Alexander, Brockbank, Santos, Senior, John, Williams, Lee, Darcy, Amaechi, Bakayoko, Afolayan

Feels like most of the starting lineup have a decent number of matches under their belt.

1st: Dixon, Aimson, Santos, Iredale, Sadlier, Tutte, Dempsey, Lee, Conway, Bakayoko, Kachunga (subs: Pettifer, Tweedley, Toure, Stanley, Hutchinson)
2nd: Trafford, Bradley, Jones, Senior, Johnston, John, Morley, Thomason, Afolayan, Charles, Bodvarsson

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jun 28, 2022 9:51 pm

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They only played the second half Tango except for Baka who only played the first.
Ah, thanks. I was otherwise engaged and just kept check on the score.
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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by Prufrock » Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:37 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:23 pm
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Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:17 pm
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Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:34 pm
Looking at the team sheets tonight only reinforces we are still light in midfield. If we want to go up we need at least one more in there. One injury at it looks light.

As do both wing back positions.
Quality perhaps, but if Sheehan isn't far away not numbers *if* this is the shape. 6 without including Tommo (or Darcy...) for 3 spots.
Take MJ out and we have no physical presence. Take Dempsey out and we are ridiculously lightweight in there. Tutte isn’t registered as a player.

Thomason bless him isn’t a player you want to rely on for a team going for promotion out of league one.

Your midfield options are Lee and Morley and Sheehan who won’t be fit for the start.

Midfield and wing backs are the players with biggest running load. Most likely to miss games or need rest. We are light in both areas in my view.
Well I mean yes, if you arbitrarily "take out" 1/3 of the options then...we look short.

"Add in" MJ and Dempsey, and Dapo who Evatt clearly sees as a midfielder in this shape not a forward and we've got 6 for 3 spots plus Thomason which feels right numbers wise to me.

I'd still like one because I think we can improve there, but if not then in this shape we've got enough.
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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:21 am

Prufrock wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:37 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:23 pm
Prufrock wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:17 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue Jun 28, 2022 7:34 pm
Looking at the team sheets tonight only reinforces we are still light in midfield. If we want to go up we need at least one more in there. One injury at it looks light.

As do both wing back positions.
Quality perhaps, but if Sheehan isn't far away not numbers *if* this is the shape. 6 without including Tommo (or Darcy...) for 3 spots.
Take MJ out and we have no physical presence. Take Dempsey out and we are ridiculously lightweight in there. Tutte isn’t registered as a player.

Thomason bless him isn’t a player you want to rely on for a team going for promotion out of league one.

Your midfield options are Lee and Morley and Sheehan who won’t be fit for the start.

Midfield and wing backs are the players with biggest running load. Most likely to miss games or need rest. We are light in both areas in my view.
Well I mean yes, if you arbitrarily "take out" 1/3 of the options then...we look short.

"Add in" MJ and Dempsey, and Dapo who Evatt clearly sees as a midfielder in this shape not a forward and we've got 6 for 3 spots plus Thomason which feels right numbers wise to me.

I'd still like one because I think we can improve there, but if not then in this shape we've got enough.
My point is that I don’t fancy a midfield of Dapo, Sheehan and Morley in games against whoever this years Wigan and Rotherham are.

So we need another one as a priority. Someone who can do the physical midfield job. Even pure numbers wise we have many number 10’s maybe even enough number 8’s. But we lack the options to physically compete and I will keep saying it we need that. If Morley and Sheehan and Dempsey compete for number 8 then we need one alongside them to compete with MJ and if you want to argue it Dempsey who fills multiple roles and to my mind isn’t going to be enough against the strongest sides.

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:06 am

^^ My question is, do we have the options to physically compete? (Thank me later)

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:09 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:21 am

My point is that I don’t fancy a midfield of Dapo, Sheehan and Morley in games against whoever this years Wigan and Rotherham are.
This is interesting. Would you say that we're essentially 'barking up the wrong tree'?
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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:33 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:09 am
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Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:21 am

My point is that I don’t fancy a midfield of Dapo, Sheehan and Morley in games against whoever this years Wigan and Rotherham are.
This is interesting. Would you say that we're essentially 'barking up the wrong tree'?
No. I’d say we just need adequate balance to compete against those teams who are a bit more physical and overload midfield. Or indeed potentially against a Sheffield Wednesday who might be better at football than we are but we can hang in and fight.

We can’t just put three ball players in every game.

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Re: Pre-season 2022/23

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jun 29, 2022 4:54 pm

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