80mph motorways?

[Worthy4England]

They use more gas and cause air pollution and environmental damage. They are heavier and damage the road surface more. Perhaps a higher tax is not unreasonable. The trouble with these things here is they tend to be driven by women in our city, 92% of whom are on cell phones unaware of people like me. So I don't like them very much.

such a huge sweeping statement so as to render it nonsense. I suggest you go and look at the co2 output of an audi a6 or a bmw 5 series and the output of a fiat panda 4x4 or a honda crv 2.2cdt-i or a toyata rav4 or an audi a3 quattro. Then look deeper at the enviro-hippies' choice of cars and the crap they churn out, and the hyrbrid cars which just shift their envronmental impact to the production end and the scrapping end due to their reliance on heavy metals for the batteries and the fact they still get charged from electricity predominantly producted by fossil feuls.




imho, of course.

It is also possible that the 4x4's and SUVs over here are of a slightly different type - don't think I've seen a fiat panda although there are a few ravs. This said I still don't necessarily perceive a problem with a variable road tax for vehicles based on weight and engine size.

Not sure what the conversation is here. We already have this in the UK. There's around 9 different levels of Vehicle Tax, levied dependent on the vehicle emissions fo Private Cars....

Well actually it was about Western Australia....

That's way easier - just charge em 40k Aus$ for the driver and the same for each Australian passenger. UK passengers are of course free.

[Montreal Wanderer]

In France the limit is 130 kph. One of our young 9driver) role models seems to have exceeded it recently. This does not seem to indicate young people would drive more legally with higher limits.

[communistworkethic]

In France the limit is 130 kph. One of our young 9driver) role models seems to have exceeded it recently. This does not seem to indicate young people would drive more legally with higher limits.

and he can handle that car at higher speed than any other driver of his age, especially given his performance a fortnight ago on the top gear test track.


Of and as for 4x4's all those models I suugested (maybe not the panda) are on the roads in Canada. You made a very sweeping statement, end of story.


IMHO of course.

[Montreal Wanderer]

In France the limit is 130 kph. One of our young 9driver) role models seems to have exceeded it recently. This does not seem to indicate young people would drive more legally with higher limits.

and he can handle that car at higher speed than any other driver of his age, especially given his performance a fortnight ago on the top gear test track.


Of and as for 4x4's all those models I suugested (maybe not the panda) are on the roads in Canada. You made a very sweeping statement, end of story.


IMHO of course.

Of course he has better handling skills but 68 kph over limit is excessive even for a professional. IMHO of course.

[communistworkethic]

Yet Germany seems to think you'd be fine doing the same speed.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Yet Germany seems to think you'd be fine doing the same speed.

Great! Now my google ads give me second hand ravs for sale in New Mexico. I don't see the relevance of the German laws to someone driving in France. Would you get away with a speeding ticket by claiming your speed was legal in some other jurisdiction? Might be worth a try I suppose.

[communistworkethic]

I'm merely pointing out that while the french seem to think even an F1 driver untrustworthy above 85mph, the Germans seem to think even a librarian capable of managing a car at whatever speed he/she could get it up to on an autobahn. ITHO of course.

[Worthy4England]

Yet Germany seems to think you'd be fine doing the same speed.

Great! Now my google ads give me second hand ravs for sale in New Mexico. I don't see the relevance of the German laws to someone driving in France. Would you get away with a speeding ticket by claiming your speed was legal in some other jurisdiction? Might be worth a try I suppose.

I got a much better googlead....got a speeding ticket? get off without a fine 100% guaranteed....

The French are just miffed because he's English....

[jonnybwfc]

A sweeping statement, but the Germans are generally better drivers than the English. If there was no enforced speed limit in England, Italy or Portugal, it would be a disaster ... in Germany, it's not so much of an issue because drivers put their brain into gear.

Plus, the quality of highways in west Germany is on the most part appalling, and in a worse condition than English roads. Whereas Australian roads are the best I've come across, and the limit is 100km/hr (60m/hr) ... stupidity, and the main reason for deaths on Australian motorways - drivers falling asleep, because they're hardly moving.

Someone tell me how the speed limits are enforced on UK highways, please ?

I lived in Manchester for a couple of years, and regularly drove at 100m/hr+, especially when late for a Dover to Calais ferry or a BWFC fixture, and have never been caught.

There don't seem to be big, bright yellow cameras, other than in built-up areas, where the limit is usually unexplicably 30, 40 or 50 m/hr. And I've very, very rarely seen a police car hiding behind a big oak tree, as is the norm in Australia and France.

Clarkson on Top Gear did mention in this new season that only 4% of road accidents are caused by excessive speed, and I'd assume most of that is in urban traffic.

The most pressing issues in England are people sitting idly in the middle lane, and people not using their brains. Sort that out, before increasing the limit.

Those that don't care about a few £££ (like myself) will continue to go over the limit anyway.

[communistworkethic]

A sweeping statement, but the Germans are generally better drivers than the English. If there was no enforced speed limit in England, Italy or Portugal, it would be a disaster ... in Germany, it's not so much of an issue because drivers put their brain into gear.

Plus, the quality of highways in west Germany is on the most part appalling, and in a worse condition than English roads. Whereas Australian roads are the best I've come across, and the limit is 100km/hr (60m/hr) ... stupidity, and the main reason for deaths on Australian motorways - drivers falling asleep, because they're hardly moving.

Someone tell me how the speed limits are enforced on UK highways, please ?

I lived in Manchester for a couple of years, and regularly drove at 100m/hr+, especially when late for a Dover to Calais ferry or a BWFC fixture, and have never been caught.

There don't seem to be big, bright yellow cameras, other than in built-up areas, where the limit is usually unexplicably 30, 40 or 50 m/hr. And I've very, very rarely seen a police car hiding behind a big oak tree, as is the norm in Australia and France.

Clarkson on Top Gear did mention in this new season that only 4% of road accidents are caused by excessive speed, and I'd assume most of that is in urban traffic.

The most pressing issues in England are people sitting idly in the middle lane, and people not using their brains. Sort that out, before increasing the limit.

Those that don't care about a few £££ (like myself) will continue to go over the limit anyway.

I'm confused by the apparent contradiction in the first 2 paragraphs but nevermind.

Motorway speed limits are enforced by any of the following:....

Marked police cars
Unmarked police cars
Fixed digital image, laser triggered cameras
Gatso-type cameras
Mobile digital image laser triggered cameras - usually parked on bridges

[BWFC_Insane]

A sweeping statement, but the Germans are generally better drivers than the English. If there was no enforced speed limit in England, Italy or Portugal, it would be a disaster ... in Germany, it's not so much of an issue because drivers put their brain into gear.

Plus, the quality of highways in west Germany is on the most part appalling, and in a worse condition than English roads. Whereas Australian roads are the best I've come across, and the limit is 100km/hr (60m/hr) ... stupidity, and the main reason for deaths on Australian motorways - drivers falling asleep, because they're hardly moving.

Someone tell me how the speed limits are enforced on UK highways, please ?

I lived in Manchester for a couple of years, and regularly drove at 100m/hr+, especially when late for a Dover to Calais ferry or a BWFC fixture, and have never been caught.

There don't seem to be big, bright yellow cameras, other than in built-up areas, where the limit is usually unexplicably 30, 40 or 50 m/hr. And I've very, very rarely seen a police car hiding behind a big oak tree, as is the norm in Australia and France.

Clarkson on Top Gear did mention in this new season that only 4% of road accidents are caused by excessive speed, and I'd assume most of that is in urban traffic.

The most pressing issues in England are people sitting idly in the middle lane, and people not using their brains. Sort that out, before increasing the limit.

Those that don't care about a few £££ (like myself) will continue to go over the limit anyway.

I'm confused by the apparent contradiction in the first 2 paragraphs but nevermind.

Motorway speed limits are enforced by any of the following:....

Marked police cars
Unmarked police cars
Fixed digital image, laser triggered cameras
Gatso-type cameras
Mobile digital image laser triggered cameras - usually parked on bridges

I regularly use the M62 and I'd say that one in every 3 journeys there are police cars doing speed checks on various sections.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I was caught on an empty motorway at 2.33am and pulled over by a police car.

It wasn't even unmarked, it must have been 100m behind me when I joined the motorway, when all I could see was its lights.

[Faran]

I say you lot instead start driving on the right side of the road!