whips and jockeys...
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whips and jockeys...
I heard "top jockey" Richard Hughes on t'radio today ranting about the unfairness of his ban...
he said summat like:
he said summat like:
well - speaking for myself - never! I have NEVER been more than once by the same speed camera - never! Am I unique - or does it just prove how stupid jockeys (or Richard Hughes?) are (is?)"how many people out there have been caught time and time again by the same speed camera - you know it's there but you always speed past it and think - oh no!"
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It's a debate that intrigues me is this.
I have no interest in horse racing. Whipping an animal to go quicker just strikes me as cruelty yet I hear on R5 today that the jockeys are talking of going on strike and folk like me just "don't understand horse racing". This is certainly true, but I'm sure I recgonise cruelty when I see it.
Any racing fans on here enlighten me on the arguments for the whip?
I have no interest in horse racing. Whipping an animal to go quicker just strikes me as cruelty yet I hear on R5 today that the jockeys are talking of going on strike and folk like me just "don't understand horse racing". This is certainly true, but I'm sure I recgonise cruelty when I see it.
Any racing fans on here enlighten me on the arguments for the whip?
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it puzzles me... what I don't get is that all the jockeys say the whips don't hurt the horse because they are "air-cushioned"... but they say the whips "encourage" the horse... how does a non-hurting whip "encourage" a horse to run faster? I could understand "OK stop hitting me, that hurts! I'll run faster!" - but not "I can't really feel anything - I'll run faster."Harry Genshaw wrote:It's a debate that intrigues me is this.
I have no interest in horse racing. Whipping an animal to go quicker just strikes me as cruelty yet I hear on R5 today that the jockeys are talking of going on strike and folk like me just "don't understand horse racing". This is certainly true, but I'm sure I recgonise cruelty when I see it.
Any racing fans on here enlighten me on the arguments for the whip?
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Never been caught by the same camera either, I know its there I slow down.
Don't understand horse racing, but I'm guessing whipping the horse would make it try to go faster.
Don't understand horse racing, but I'm guessing whipping the horse would make it try to go faster.
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Annoyed Grunt wrote:Never been caught by the same camera either, I know its there I slow down.
Don't understand horse racing, but I'm guessing whipping the horse would make it try to go faster.
yeah - but if, as they claim, the whip doesn't hurt - why would the horse go faster?
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If it doesn't hurt, why the restrictions? It has to hurt, hence it tries to run faster.thebish wrote:Annoyed Grunt wrote:Never been caught by the same camera either, I know its there I slow down.
Don't understand horse racing, but I'm guessing whipping the horse would make it try to go faster.
yeah - but if, as they claim, the whip doesn't hurt - why would the horse go faster?
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Imagine you're a horse. Somebody bungs a steel bridle in your mouth to make you do as you're told or you'll hurt your mouth, digs spurs in your flanks to make you run, and hits you with a whip if you're not going fast enough. Doesn't hurt because, being a horse, you can't tell anybody it does.
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So that's why the long faces? (Yes, I'm aware that was apalling).TANGODANCER wrote:Imagine you're a horse. Somebody bungs a steel bridle in your mouth to make you do as you're told or you'll hurt your mouth, digs spurs in your flanks to make you run, and hits you with a whip if you're not going fast enough. Doesn't hurt because, being a horse, you can't tell anybody it does.
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Neigh.Annoyed Grunt wrote:So that's why the long faces? (Yes, I'm aware that was apalling).TANGODANCER wrote:Imagine you're a horse. Somebody bungs a steel bridle in your mouth to make you do as you're told or you'll hurt your mouth, digs spurs in your flanks to make you run, and hits you with a whip if you're not going fast enough. Doesn't hurt because, being a horse, you can't tell anybody it does.
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TANGODANCER wrote:Neigh.Annoyed Grunt wrote:So that's why the long faces? (Yes, I'm aware that was apalling).TANGODANCER wrote:Imagine you're a horse. Somebody bungs a steel bridle in your mouth to make you do as you're told or you'll hurt your mouth, digs spurs in your flanks to make you run, and hits you with a whip if you're not going fast enough. Doesn't hurt because, being a horse, you can't tell anybody it does.
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Come on, there's gambling industry to support...
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Aren't you the fella who wanted to keep mines open just to maintain employment?
Anyway, if these jockeys are so thick they can't avoid a ban, thats their problem
FWIW, the penalties want rethinking
Just disqualify the horse
Anyway, if these jockeys are so thick they can't avoid a ban, thats their problem
FWIW, the penalties want rethinking
Just disqualify the horse
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CAPSLOCK wrote:Aren't you the fella who wanted to keep mines open just to maintain employment?
Mark Twain view: " A mine is just a hole in the ground with a fool at the bottom and a crook at the top".
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Mark Twain was sometimes half right...TANGODANCER wrote:CAPSLOCK wrote:Aren't you the fella who wanted to keep mines open just to maintain employment?
Mark Twain view: " A mine is just a hole in the ground with a fool at the bottom and a crook at the top".
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