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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed May 15, 2013 9:45 pm

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:People who principally claim to be Muslim, who eat people's hearts. Nice. I do so love multi-culturalism.
Perhaps a link? I have no idea what you are talking about.
I have, Monty, and it's best if Spotty doesn't supply a link. I promise you.
Okay - I've lost interest.
It not difficult to Google if you are still curious. I don't want to see it, but the story alone is bad enough.
I'm not. I gather some Syrian (probably a Moslem) ate someone's heart (probably a deceased enemy). The perpetrator apparently finds justification in Sharia law (well, I'd like to see that reference). This is taken as a reason to attack multiculturalism, although I cannot exactly see the connection.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed May 15, 2013 9:51 pm

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William the White wrote:If it's to do with a war atrocity in Syria it's feck all to do with multi-culturalism... :conf:
Why. Is multi-culturalism confined to the UK. Don't be a plonker. it's a straight forward concept
No, indeed it isn't. Multiculturalism is an official Canadian policy formalized first in 1971 and now enshrined in the Canadian Multiculturalism Act (1988). Despite this, however, there seems a lack of cannibalism among the ethnic communities. We have had an honour killing though (what an oxymoron).
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Post by William the White » Wed May 15, 2013 10:49 pm

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William the White wrote:If it's to do with a war atrocity in Syria it's feck all to do with multi-culturalism... :conf:
Why. Is multi-culturalism confined to the UK. Don't be a plonker. it's a straight forward concept
OK - I'll try harder not to be a plonker - perhaps you can explain what you understand by the term 'multiculturalism'? Sorry I'm a bit slow, but, please, go ahead, enlighten...

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu May 16, 2013 8:49 am

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William the White wrote:If it's to do with a war atrocity in Syria it's feck all to do with multi-culturalism... :conf:
Why. Is multi-culturalism confined to the UK. Don't be a plonker. it's a straight forward concept
OK - I'll try harder not to be a plonker - perhaps you can explain what you understand by the term 'multiculturalism'? Sorry I'm a bit slow, but, please, go ahead, enlighten...
Well you see there's this one culture, let's call it Arab secularism, epitomised by the Ba'ath party in Syria, that is repressive of other cultures. The Syrian version has a strong Alawite bias but that need not redefine it. Then there's this other culture, let's call it Pan Muslim, which is jihadist and fanatical to its own concept of sharia and anti-secular, that sees itself as not only the future but the only future that should be allowed.
Plainly these two cultures cannot reside side by side. I was therefore being 'ironic' in my reference to multi-culturalism. I thought that stood out like a shining beacon. If not then I hope the above enlightens as well as a highly directed torch on full beam.
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William the White wrote:If it's to do with a war atrocity in Syria it's feck all to do with multi-culturalism... :conf:
Why. Is multi-culturalism confined to the UK. Don't be a plonker. it's a straight forward concept
OK - I'll try harder not to be a plonker - perhaps you can explain what you understand by the term 'multiculturalism'? Sorry I'm a bit slow, but, please, go ahead, enlighten...
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Post by Bijou Bob » Thu May 16, 2013 1:32 pm

This could go in the 'Listening to' thread, but indulge me..............

Someone in the office has just spent ten minutes papping on about the Sgt Pepper album. Apparently its the 'Best Album Of All Time'

Now granted, The Beatles have a place in our nation's cultural history, but for me their music is utter, utter dross. Likewise, other so called classic albums leave me completely cold.

The Manic Street Preachers, Holy Bible - shite

Springstein, Born in the USA - Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - uninteresting (And Ive bought it 3 times for some reason)

Chilli Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik - aaaaaaaaaargh my ears, my ears!

Its almost become the Emperor's new clothes with some albums, they've become sacrosanct, above criticism.

And your choices for most over hyped album would be?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu May 16, 2013 1:42 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
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William the White wrote:If it's to do with a war atrocity in Syria it's feck all to do with multi-culturalism... :conf:
Why. Is multi-culturalism confined to the UK. Don't be a plonker. it's a straight forward concept
OK - I'll try harder not to be a plonker - perhaps you can explain what you understand by the term 'multiculturalism'? Sorry I'm a bit slow, but, please, go ahead, enlighten...
Well you see there's this one culture, let's call it Arab secularism, epitomised by the Ba'ath party in Syria, that is repressive of other cultures. The Syrian version has a strong Alawite bias but that need not redefine it. Then there's this other culture, let's call it Pan Muslim, which is jihadist and fanatical to its own concept of sharia and anti-secular, that sees itself as not only the future but the only future that should be allowed.
Plainly these two cultures cannot reside side by side. I was therefore being 'ironic' in my reference to multi-culturalism. I thought that stood out like a shining beacon. If not then I hope the above enlightens as well as a highly directed torch on full beam.
The BBC are reporting that the heart eating man is head of a "moderately" islamist group. Who may actually not be islamic at all, but just pretending to be to get money out of other islamic states.

I'm not sure where this fits in with multiculturalism??

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu May 16, 2013 1:43 pm

^^^^ All of that, Bob. All of it.

Think I mentioned before - flying home from Atlanta last year I had a shuffty through the in-flight music and came across Sgt Peppers. Having never heard it I thought I'd see what all the fuss was about.

Complete and utter drivel.

Ended up listening to Dark Side of the Moon for the millionth time. Now THAT, my friend, is an album. :oyea:
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Post by Bijou Bob » Thu May 16, 2013 1:57 pm

3 tapes, 2 vinyl copies and 2 cd copies I've had of that and yet others seem to think it's also completely over hyped. Not I.
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Post by Hoboh » Thu May 16, 2013 4:31 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:^^^^ All of that, Bob. All of it.

Think I mentioned before - flying home from Atlanta last year I had a shuffty through the in-flight music and came across Sgt Peppers. Having never heard it I thought I'd see what all the fuss was about.

Complete and utter drivel.

Ended up listening to Dark Side of the Moon for the millionth time. Now THAT, my friend, is an album. :oyea:

Spot on Bruce, Procol Harum 'A salty dog' is well worth a listen too.

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Post by Prufrock » Thu May 16, 2013 6:15 pm

Except he's talking shite re: Rumours and Blood Sugar; Born in the USA and The Holy Bible are both good without being great. Revolver is a trillion times better than Sgt. Pepper, which is definitely bollocks.
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu May 16, 2013 7:39 pm

Prufrock wrote: Revolver is a trillion times better than Sgt. Pepper, which is definitely bollocks.
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Post by bobo the clown » Thu May 16, 2013 7:43 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:This could go in the 'Listening to' thread, but indulge me..............

Someone in the office has just spent ten minutes papping on about the Sgt Pepper album. Apparently its the 'Best Album Of All Time'

Now granted, The Beatles have a place in our nation's cultural history, but for me their music is utter, utter dross. Likewise, other so called classic albums leave me completely cold.

The Manic Street Preachers, Holy Bible - shite

Springstein, Born in the USA - Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Fleetwood Mac - Rumours - uninteresting (And Ive bought it 3 times for some reason)

Chilli Peppers - Blood Sugar Sex Magik - aaaaaaaaaargh my ears, my ears!

Its almost become the Emperor's new clothes with some albums, they've become sacrosanct, above criticism.

And your choices for most over hyped album would be?
This only works with people who's music you generally enjoy I suppose ... otherwise it's just "music I don't like". (In my case ... & he ducks .... that would mean anything by the Smiths or the Jam for example).

In looking at music you may like but feel is over-egged it's inevitable that as you state one there will be readers gawping with incredulity.

With that in mind I have never got the hype about Bowie's "Ziggy Stardust", or the Who's "Tommy". I would have "Who's Next" in my top 10 albums ever, but Tommy, despite having the odd decent track, does nothing for me overall.
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Post by William the White » Thu May 16, 2013 9:28 pm

Prufrock wrote:Except he's talking shite re: Rumours and Blood Sugar; Born in the USA and The Holy Bible are both good without being great. Revolver is a trillion times better than Sgt. Pepper, which is definitely bollocks.
Agree with first assertion, think second laughably wrong...

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu May 16, 2013 10:27 pm

Prufrock wrote:Except he's talking shite re: Rumours and Blood Sugar; Born in the USA and The Holy Bible are both good without being great. Revolver is a trillion times better than Sgt. Pepper, which is definitely bollocks.
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Bruce Rioja wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Except he's talking shite re: Rumours and Blood Sugar; Born in the USA and The Holy Bible are both good without being great. Revolver is a trillion times better than Sgt. Pepper, which is definitely bollocks.
Your opinion.
Well no shit! That'll be why it appears next to my name on an internet forum! :fingers:
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Post by Worthy4England » Fri May 17, 2013 1:14 am

I don't understand the drama here. We know Bruce listens to some "reet, utter, sheet" :D

So because of the power of the internet, amongst approx. 2.5 billion internet users, Brucie and Bob have found a like, then we must all be onto something. ;-)

FWIW

Sgt Pepper - don't think I've ever listened to it all the way through, but ok with the red and the blue albums, although I think you have to contextualise them somewhat against the timeframe they were released in

Manics - not sure I've ever listened to it, but if it's got Maybe Tomorrow on it, that's going to be a good start.

Rumours, amazing couple of songs on there, underpinned by some ok.

Chilli's - again couple of good, quite a few no better than average.

So like most albums (and I'm fairly sure we did "your best album of all time" recently), there's probably a few gems and some fillers that you listen to, before you get to the next gem.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri May 17, 2013 1:15 am

as wrote:'All the lonely people - where do they all belong?'
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Post by Prufrock » Fri May 17, 2013 8:33 am

Worthy4England wrote:I don't understand the drama here. We know Bruce listens to some "reet, utter, sheet" :D

So because of the power of the internet, amongst approx. 2.5 billion internet users, Brucie and Bob have found a like, then we must all be onto something. ;-)

FWIW

Sgt Pepper - don't think I've ever listened to it all the way through, but ok with the red and the blue albums, although I think you have to contextualise them somewhat against the timeframe they were released in

Manics - not sure I've ever listened to it, but if it's got Maybe Tomorrow on it, that's going to be a good start.

Rumours, amazing couple of songs on there, underpinned by some ok.

Chilli's - again couple of good, quite a few no better than average.

So like most albums (and I'm fairly sure we did "your best album of all time" recently), there's probably a few gems and some fillers that you listen to, before you get to the next gem.

That seems unlikely... :D
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