Unpaid Internships

[boltonboris]

Pedant alert:

KPMG...

[Beefheart]

Pedant alert:

KPMG...

I knew that! Fixed it.

[RealLifeHobbit]

As my third year at uni, we're required to do a year's placement.

That's what I did and thankfully they invited me back to apply for the grad scheme of the same company, of course by then you know exactly what to do in the assessment centre.

I had to live in a right shithole in East London on £15k and it was a real struggle financially and personally at times, not to mention that when you return to uni all your mates have cleared off, but means to an end and all that - no Super Noodles for tea now.

Something similar for me, the degree programme I'm on is partnered with one of the Big 4 accounting firms, so in a 4 year course, you do 18 months paid work placements, and provided you do well enough academically, including sitting some of your professional exams while still at uni, and get good feedback at work then there you're essentially guaranteed to be offered a job with them upon graduation. This also means a lot of my mates at uni are on the same course, so are working when I am, and at uni when I am so when I returned for my 4th year this year, I still knew people, and had the money to enjoy uni. Most of the opportunities do seem to be in London, although when I start as a graduate in September I've been lucky enough to secure a transfer to the Manchester office. Didn't seem like a big deal when I first applied to this about 4 or 5 years ago, but it's all worked out pretty well looking at some of my mates who have graduated and are struggling to find work.

Is that the EY degree at Lancaster by any chance?

Yes, it is. PWC have one similar at Newcastle, and KPMG just started theirs at Durham I think. I guess Deloitte can't be too far off launching one either. The KPMG one is interesting in that they seem to pay tuition fees but you seem to be tied into a contract with them for 6 years, not great if you find out you don't like it!

Excellent, I do the BBA at Lancaster. Yes, it's an easy way for them to poach talent from universities without all the usual hassle, quite an innovative approach.

Do you have Dermot for any of your lectures?

[Beefheart]

I had a couple of flatmates in first year doing the BBA, can't say I know what it is exactly. Nah, never had this Dermot guy. Is he any good? I don't have much time for these academics, I just wan't my piece of paper and to get out of there. I love Lancaster though, was told it was a shit night out before I got there, disappointed with myself though, only managed 8/10 Carletons last term.

[RealLifeHobbit]

I had a couple of flatmates in first year doing the BBA, can't say I know what it is exactly. Nah, never had this Dermot guy. Is he any good? I don't have much time for these academics, I just wan't my piece of paper and to get out of there. I love Lancaster though, was told it was a shit night out before I got there, disappointed with myself though, only managed 8/10 Carletons last term.

BBA is like a pre-cursor to the MBA, just a jack-of-all-trades introduction to management. We have to do at least one course in AcF, HR, general management theory, statistics, operations, management science, consulting, etc.

Dermot's great, lovely guy; just does Accounting 101 I think for financial accounting.

In my two years at Lancaster I only did the Carleton twice; one per year. I'm a bit of a clubbing lightweight, the enormous selection of pubs serving real ale kept me busy

[Athers]

As my third year at uni, we're required to do a year's placement.

That's what I did and thankfully they invited me back to apply for the grad scheme of the same company, of course by then you know exactly what to do in the assessment centre.

I had to live in a right shithole in East London on £15k and it was a real struggle financially and personally at times, not to mention that when you return to uni all your mates have cleared off, but means to an end and all that - no Super Noodles for tea now.

Something similar for me, the degree programme I'm on is partnered with one of the Big 4 accounting firms, so in a 4 year course, you do 18 months paid work placements, and provided you do well enough academically, including sitting some of your professional exams while still at uni, and get good feedback at work then there you're essentially guaranteed to be offered a job with them upon graduation. This also means a lot of my mates at uni are on the same course, so are working when I am, and at uni when I am so when I returned for my 4th year this year, I still knew people, and had the money to enjoy uni. Most of the opportunities do seem to be in London, although when I start as a graduate in September I've been lucky enough to secure a transfer to the Manchester office. Didn't seem like a big deal when I first applied to this about 4 or 5 years ago, but it's all worked out pretty well looking at some of my mates who have graduated and are struggling to find work.

Is that the EY degree at Lancaster by any chance?

Yes, it is. PWC have one similar at Newcastle, and KPMG just started theirs at Durham I think. I guess Deloitte can't be too far off launching one either. The KPMG one is interesting in that they seem to pay tuition fees but you seem to be tied into a contract with them for 6 years, not great if you find out you don't like it!

Yes know someone who did the PWC one at Newcastle, still works for them 4 years after graduating. Great start to a career really if it's what you want to do.

Know someone else in the PWC office in Manchester, they do 'swap desk fridays' apparently

[Beefheart]

I had a couple of flatmates in first year doing the BBA, can't say I know what it is exactly. Nah, never had this Dermot guy. Is he any good? I don't have much time for these academics, I just wan't my piece of paper and to get out of there. I love Lancaster though, was told it was a shit night out before I got there, disappointed with myself though, only managed 8/10 Carletons last term.

BBA is like a pre-cursor to the MBA, just a jack-of-all-trades introduction to management. We have to do at least one course in AcF, HR, general management theory, statistics, operations, management science, consulting, etc.

Dermot's great, lovely guy; just does Accounting 101 I think for financial accounting.

In my two years at Lancaster I only did the Carleton twice; one per year. I'm a bit of a clubbing lightweight, the enormous selection of pubs serving real ale kept me busy

Fair enough, I think spending time on placement made me appreciate being able to go out on a Wednesday night when I went back to Uni, even if it is to a hole in Morecombe.

[Morkal]

Hang on....... a solicitor actually PAYING OUT money??? Never gonna happen!!

I think most of the private law firm are now offering attractive salary packages to its new member that just have join the team.So i think they pay the money because in this way both the parties get benefit.
Get lawyer assitance in gold coast

[Bijou Bob]

Hang on....... a solicitor actually PAYING OUT money??? Never gonna happen!!

I think most of the private law firm are now offering attractive salary packages to its new member that just have join the team.So i think they pay the money because in this way both the parties get benefit.

I guarantee they'll be getting it back one way or another. B4stards the lot of em.

[bobo the clown]

Hang on....... a solicitor actually PAYING OUT money??? Never gonna happen!!

I think most of the private law firm are now offering attractive salary packages to its new member that just have join the team.So i think they pay the money because in this way both the parties get benefit.

I guarantee they'll be getting it back one way or another. B4stards the lot of em.

Haaa. Ha. ha, ha.

New recruits at law firms would be better off working at Nando's.

The lucky ones will progress, and very nicely, but there are a surfeit of law graduates from all sorts of numpty colleges these days and the newbies get paid pretty poorly.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Hang on....... a solicitor actually PAYING OUT money??? Never gonna happen!!

I think most of the private law firm are now offering attractive salary packages to its new member that just have join the team.So i think they pay the money because in this way both the parties get benefit.

I guarantee they'll be getting it back one way or another. B4stards the lot of em.

Haaa. Ha. ha, ha.

New recruits at law firms would be better off working at Nando's.

The lucky ones will progress, and very nicely, but there are a surfeit of law graduates from all sorts of numpty colleges these days and the newbies get paid pretty poorly.

Curiously the surplus hasn't really driven the starting salaries down, even in real terms.

It's just that there is a bigger surplus not getting training contracts.

[bobo the clown]

I think you deal on a higher plain, PB.

Out in the sticks even the good ones, who DO get contracts, are starting on pretty poor rates.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Actually, that is just the international firms in London I am talking about. I have no idea what the postion for regional and high street firms is.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I think you deal on a higher plain, PB.

Out in the sticks even the good ones, who DO get contracts, are starting on pretty poor rates.

boondocks, dear clown, boondocks. For lawlerly talk one must employ grishamisms.

[bobo the clown]

Actually, that is just the international firms in London I am talking about. I have no idea what the postion for regional and high street firms is.

... as I said

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Actually, that is just the international firms in London I am talking about. I have no idea what the postion for regional and high street firms is.

... as I said

Ah yes, I see we crossed posts and I anticipated your next comment.

[Montreal Wanderer]

I think you deal on a higher plain, PB.

Out in the sticks even the good ones, who DO get contracts, are starting on pretty poor rates.

Must be in the Steppes. Sorry, Bobo, couldn't resist.

[Lord Kangana]

Good to see management consultancy as a growth industry.