You take the high road...

[TANGODANCER]

Mainly with Hohoh in mind, but..

What's this Scottish independence thing really all about? In addition to all the finer internal jiggery-pokery of politics, and on a purely broad, man-in-the-street, basis, I'm more than a bit staggered that a section of the inhabitants of a (not particularly monstrous) isle with totally open borders where people come and go freely back and forth and have done so since nobody but historians remember when, (1700?) a modern front-line, example to the world of civilised society with all its bricks in the box, should suddenly want to put blue and white fences round their internal onion patch and re-enact Braveheart all over again. It defies all logic and sense and actually makes people like Salmond look like a Scottish Guy Fawkes. Is he seeking a bronze statue of himself at Gretna, holding up that daft sign saying "Haste ye back" when actually nobody's been anywhere except a car or train ride for most folk less than visiting London? Has he been lying in a cave watching spiders make webs and dreaming of reigning over a giant petroleum station "Get yer genuine Scottish oil here. Please produce yer passports for identification purposes. Free tartan heather car fresheners for foreigners, cut prices for home residents!"

Ah, I see, , it's the oil. So then ye brave, braw, warriors, let's make a real enemy of the auld enemy and put the tartan shutters up (we'll argue about which tartan later). Sharpen the claymores and broadswords and paint you faces blue. Kinell, if Ireland was regarded as the back door to Europe in wartime, Scotland might someday find a load of folk with funny accents keen to visit, whether they like it or no. With the Sons of Glyndower (are there any left) blowing bugles to the west, Sinn Fein still dreaming of a United Ireland further west still, the French, Germans and all points east not really our best friends, should we Brits (er, English then) feel a we bit, er ,insecure all of a sudden. Our great empire seems suddenly a bit shrunken, does it not?

I seriously have no interest in politics, but this seems utterly crazy even to me. I'll listen to explanations that make sense.

[Bruce Rioja]

Have you been at the sherry?

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Tango, there are a lot of reasons why people will vote yes, but I believe a lot of people are sick fed up of a government that doesn't appear to give a shit about anything north of Watford or west of Berkshire. Politics in the UK needs a massive shake up IMO, but walking away is no answer. If they do break away, what happens in 10/20 years time when the Orkney Isles are fed up Edinburgh politics? Will Aberdeen want to break away because of all those Glaswegians stealing their oil wealth? Whatever happens Thursday there is going to be a lot of pain and angst for years to come and I doubt result will have been worth it to anyone.

[TANGODANCER]

Have you been at the sherry?

No, just being honest and saying I don't know the real bones of it all. My last line was asking for some feasible explanation. The rest was somewhat jocose as it would be when confessing ignorance of the real reasons for yes or no. I read the papers and they, like most on here, seem divided in their views. It all seems very much a problem, as ever where governments are involved, without a feasible clear-cut solution.

[Bruce Rioja]

Well it looks like you've been at the sherry. Just my view.

[Worthy4England]

Have you been at the sherry?

Snorting it, methinks.

[jaffka]

I'm up for raiding cattle, sheep and burning farms like what we used to a few centuries ago.

Quite exciting times really.

[Hoboh]

Where I'm at with this is, If the Scottish want to go alone , fine, just don't think you can leave the table on your terms.

The Westminster mob have no balls, stop promising them our money you have no mandate!!!

[Montreal Wanderer]

I see a lot of people toying with Yes but deciding late on to continue with the status quo because they mistrust the unknown.
A bit like people sticking with Thatcher over Kinnock when the polls had suggested otherwise.
I'm going for 55-45 in favour of No. Any other predictions?

I think it will be closer, LE, but no will win 52-47 with 1% not understanding the question.

[Gary the Enfield]

The last few days have seen some pretty disturbing confrontations and I'm beginning to wonder what is going to happen if the 'Yes' votes 'gangs agly'

Are they simply going to accept the result and say fair enough? Somehow I doubt it.

[Bruce Rioja]

Oh my giddy fecking aunt.

And the Yes campaign are accusing the No campaign of resorting to panicked scare tactics? Read this

[bobo the clown]

The last few days have seen some pretty disturbing confrontations and I'm beginning to wonder what is going to happen if the 'Yes' votes 'gangs agly'

Are they simply going to accept the result and say fair enough? Somehow I doubt it.

My thoughts as expressed previously. There is a terribly nasty core in that "Yes" camp which the decent bulk are doing nothing to stop. That nasty group will be 95% piss. & wind but I do fear that a rump will become genuinely hot headed and some SRA group could emerge.

I'm going for 54/46 "No".

[thebish]

I heard Salmond declare that the arrival of Cameron, Clegg and Milliband in Scotland was:

"just a last minute attempt to influence the vote"

no sh*t sherlock!! as is all of the campaigning on both sides (yours included) up to Thursday morning!!

[Little Green Man]

And the Yes campaign are accusing the No campaign of resorting to panicked scare tactics?

I very much doubt that that image came from the official Yes campaign. They've been very slick with their presentation on the whole. That smacks of some saddo with Photoshop and too much time on his hands.

[Bruce Rioja]

And the Yes campaign are accusing the No campaign of resorting to panicked scare tactics?

I very much doubt that that image came from the official Yes campaign. They've been very slick with their presentation on the whole. That smacks of some saddo with Photoshop and too much time on his hands.

I don't doubt it, but it's the sort of shite that's being bandied about on social media by Yes campaigners that has all the cringe inducing qualities of the stuff that those who follow the parties of the far right post up. Laughable bollocks. Hey - share if you agree.

[Beefheart]

And the Yes campaign are accusing the No campaign of resorting to panicked scare tactics?

I very much doubt that that image came from the official Yes campaign. They've been very slick with their presentation on the whole. That smacks of some saddo with Photoshop and too much time on his hands.

I don't doubt it, but it's the sort of shite that's being bandied about on social media by Yes campaigners that has all the cringe inducing qualities of the stuff that those who follow the parties of the far right post up. Laughable bollocks. Hey - share if you agree.

I think it's funny seeing how it has confused the far right groups who have picked names such as UKIP, BNP and Britain First in that they seem to in the No camp but conflicted in how that seemingly contradicts their own stance towards the EU.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

And the Yes campaign are accusing the No campaign of resorting to panicked scare tactics?

I very much doubt that that image came from the official Yes campaign. They've been very slick with their presentation on the whole. That smacks of some saddo with Photoshop and too much time on his hands.

I don't doubt it, but it's the sort of shite that's being bandied about on social media by Yes campaigners that has all the cringe inducing qualities of the stuff that those who follow the parties of the far right post up. Laughable bollocks. Hey - share if you agree.

I've rounded up all the Yes campaigners on my Facebook that continually post shite and I've stuck them in my 'acquaintances' group. I now no longer have any of the drivel on my feed and can concentrate on watching silly cat videos and poking people

[Caro-Kann]

Having travelled down for the Wednesday game I hope it's a Yes vote and a steel fence is erected to prevent me from doing so again.

This is quite an interesting article on the BBC website as I was completely unaware that there was a home rule movement in Scotland then.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-29048884" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bl**dy Germans!

I wouldn't say the campaign has been particularly nasty, OK there are a few numpties on social media, but that's just the nature of social media which brings out the worst in people.

If it is a yes vote I don't expect Scotland to become a land of milk and honey but at the same time I don't see us becoming an economic basket case either, time will tell but at the end of the day it'll be ourselves to blame if it all goes pear shaped and that's the risk you have to take on the self determination "high road".

I don't have much faith in the polls as the sample sizes are quite small and the amount of voters registering is unprecidented in recent times but if I had to place a bet it would be on a No vote say 58-42 as if someone hasn't made up their mind by now they are risk averse so more likely to wish to stick to the status quo albeit that's not quite what's on offer anymore.

Think we can all be proud to be British that we've reached this political point in our history without a single person losing their life.

[boltonboris]

Think we can all be proud to be British that we've reached this political point in our history without a single person losing their life.

Very well said

[jaffka]

Will the descendants of the Stuarts be eyeing a Scottish crown?