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Post by bobo the clown » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:59 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
You really have swallowed the Palestinian sympathy handbook whole haven't you H ?
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:14 pm

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Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
You really have swallowed the Palestinian sympathy handbook whole haven't you H ?
Are the Palestinians not the ones who are being literally bulldozed out of their homeland? I may have this wrong - it won't be a first! :?
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:14 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
You really have swallowed the Palestinian sympathy handbook whole haven't you H ?
Are the Palestinians not the ones who are being literally bulldozed out of their homeland? I may have this wrong - it won't be a first! :?
Have you encountered many?

I'll tell you this, as being neither Jewish, Christian, nor Muslim, I've personally never encountered any Jew who has threatened me or my family for being non-religious, or for being a citizen of the UK. I've encountered a fair few right wing Christian nutters who would threaten me if they could, but are so inane as to be not a threat, and even more left wing Christians whose main threat is that they subscribe to the anti-semite anti-Zionist narrative spouted by Hamas and Hezbollah. But they all fade into total insignificance in the face of the Muslims I've encountered, Shiite and Sunni, who want to fxcking kill me and my family because I'm not religious... and that doesn't even fxcking begin to tap into the shit those bastards pour forth on a daily basis against those unfortunate enough to be born Jewish.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:18 pm

Take another look at the logo of the Houthis. And they are fighting the fxcking Saudis! One of that lot are the liberals!!!
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:25 pm

Oh and by the way, they're not fighting each other because they think the other lot are wrong... they're fighting each other because they think the other lot are not right enough. The cxnts are trying to outdo each other in how fxcking saintly they are, mainly by demonstrating how intolerant the fxckers are of Jews, heretics, and atheists.
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Mon Mar 21, 2016 9:44 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Take another look at the logo of the Houthis. And they are fighting the fxcking Saudis! One of that lot are the liberals!!!
Well, I understood it to be Shiite versus Sunni Muslims - neither side being particularly liberal. Still Protestants and Catholics duked it out for a few centuries, so I suppose Islam is allowed a schism or two.
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Take another look at the logo of the Houthis. And they are fighting the fxcking Saudis! One of that lot are the liberals!!!
Well, I understood it to be Shiite versus Sunni Muslims - neither side being particularly liberal. Still Protestants and Catholics duked it out for a few centuries, so I suppose Islam is allowed a schism or two.
Yes, although from the eighth century to present day is a bit of a luxury schism.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:20 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
Thousands of Jews are fearful of a revived anti-Semitic campaign fuelled mainly by Islamists in Europe.
The Yemeni Houthi movement has this logo:
Allahu akhbar (Jehovah is Great!)
Death to America.
Death to Israel.
A deadly curse on all Jews.
Victory to Islam!

I'm getting fxck your perspective. I'm getting Muslim anti-semitism backed up by left wing Christian wankers...
I'm sorry I just don't see the relevance of what you wrote to what I wrote :conf:
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:24 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
You really have swallowed the Palestinian sympathy handbook whole haven't you H ?
Perhaps. I see appalling violence and a seemingly never ending dispute between two entrenched sides. Surely though, even the most myopic can see one side in the dispute is heavily disadvantaged?
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Post by bobo the clown » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:58 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
You really have swallowed the Palestinian sympathy handbook whole haven't you H ?
Perhaps. I see appalling violence and a seemingly never ending dispute between two entrenched sides. Surely though, even the most myopic can see one side in the dispute is heavily disadvantaged?
Which only make sense of the argument if you believed for so much as a second that if the current underdogs would be sweetness and light if they were on top.

Anyone, literally anyone, knows that if that were the situation there would be no sense of the Israelis being left "disadvantaged". They'd be massacred. Every last one.

So, on balance I'd rather the Israelis were on top, not the Palestinians.

Of course I'd prefer they learnt to live together. But I'd prefer we'd been taken over by a Bolton obsessed Bill Gates / Marc Zuckerberg combo too.
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:08 pm

^ Which was a common argument used in South Africa during the apartheid regime.

I'll agree that the only possible solution involves 2 separate states. I just can't see Israel or the US letting it happen.
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Post by Prufrock » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:14 am

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
Thousands of Jews are fearful of a revived anti-Semitic campaign fuelled mainly by Islamists in Europe.
The Yemeni Houthi movement has this logo:
Allahu akhbar (Jehovah is Great!)
Death to America.
Death to Israel.
A deadly curse on all Jews.
Victory to Islam!

I'm getting fxck your perspective. I'm getting Muslim anti-semitism backed up by left wing Christian wankers...
I'm sorry I just don't see the relevance of what you wrote to what I wrote :conf:
How is there any less of a nexus than between the two unrelated things you mentioned?
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Post by Prufrock » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:16 am

Harry Genshaw wrote:^ Which was a common argument used in South Africa during the apartheid regime.

I'll agree that the only possible solution involves 2 separate states. I just can't see Israel or the US letting it happen.
1) The ANC didn't have a charter that called fur the exclusion of whites from South Africa by jihad.

2) not everything that was done in the fight against apartheid was justified.
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Post by thebish » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:13 am

Prufrock wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:^ Which was a common argument used in South Africa during the apartheid regime.

I'll agree that the only possible solution involves 2 separate states. I just can't see Israel or the US letting it happen.
1) The ANC didn't have a charter that called fur the exclusion of whites from South Africa by jihad.

2) not everything that was done in the fight against apartheid was justified.
aye - but, then Harry didn't claim either of those things. He claimed that at the time it was argued that the blacks would annihilate the whites should they gain power... and so it was better to have the (more civilised) whites with the upper hand...

and that WAS argued... those of us old enough to go regularly on anti-apartheid rallies heard it often.

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Post by Hoboh » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:10 am

Harry Genshaw wrote:^ Which was a common argument used in South Africa during the apartheid regime.

I'll agree that the only possible solution involves 2 separate states. I just can't see Israel or the US letting it happen.
'Kin hell I've got relatives been in South Africa who say, names, faces, skin colour changes but the white population is still armed to the teeth, surrounded by all sorts of security systems and who would happily open fire on a black person, or stun them, if the dogs hadn't got to them first.
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
You really have swallowed the Palestinian sympathy handbook whole haven't you H ?
Are the Palestinians not the ones who are being literally bulldozed out of their homeland? I may have this wrong - it won't be a first! :?
Have you encountered many?

I'll tell you this, as being neither Jewish, Christian, nor Muslim, I've personally never encountered any Jew who has threatened me or my family for being non-religious, or for being a citizen of the UK. I've encountered a fair few right wing Christian nutters who would threaten me if they could, but are so inane as to be not a threat, and even more left wing Christians whose main threat is that they subscribe to the anti-semite anti-Zionist narrative spouted by Hamas and Hezbollah. But they all fade into total insignificance in the face of the Muslims I've encountered, Shiite and Sunni, who want to fxcking kill me and my family because I'm not religious... and that doesn't even fxcking begin to tap into the shit those bastards pour forth on a daily basis against those unfortunate enough to be born Jewish.

Perhaps I'm an outlier, but I've never had anyone, of any race or religion threaten to kill me.

I was in Manchester when "white Christians" had a fairly good go like, but still, I didn't take it personally.

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:02 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:

Perhaps I'm an outlier, but I've never had anyone, of any race or religion threaten to kill me.

I was in Manchester when "white Christians" had a fairly good go like, but still, I didn't take it personally.
Then I am an outlier too. No death threats from anyone ever about anything. In terms of religion no one has ever tried to convert me (although the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses come to the door infrequently to discuss profound issues). Muslims and Jews (the city I live in is 69% Jewish) have always explained their feasts, festivals and beliefs to when asked, and have invited me to share in them. It seems to me Jews and Muslims cohabit peacefully here so long as they do not discuss the State of Israel. Neither side is particularly rational on that question in my opinion.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:11 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Thousands of Palestinians are denied access to drinking water, free movement and full citizenship and some get bent out of shape because a few Israeli academics are refused a platform to speak at a Uni? I'm getting the word..perspective
You really have swallowed the Palestinian sympathy handbook whole haven't you H ?
Are the Palestinians not the ones who are being literally bulldozed out of their homeland? I may have this wrong - it won't be a first! :?
Have you encountered many?

I'll tell you this, as being neither Jewish, Christian, nor Muslim, I've personally never encountered any Jew who has threatened me or my family for being non-religious, or for being a citizen of the UK. I've encountered a fair few right wing Christian nutters who would threaten me if they could, but are so inane as to be not a threat, and even more left wing Christians whose main threat is that they subscribe to the anti-semite anti-Zionist narrative spouted by Hamas and Hezbollah. But they all fade into total insignificance in the face of the Muslims I've encountered, Shiite and Sunni, who want to fxcking kill me and my family because I'm not religious... and that doesn't even fxcking begin to tap into the shit those bastards pour forth on a daily basis against those unfortunate enough to be born Jewish.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:26 pm

At least 21 dead in Brussels Airport explosion....
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/143 ... b_attacks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:42 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:At least 21 dead in Brussels Airport explosion....
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/143 ... b_attacks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Trump and Farridge already blaming "Lax border security". Thanks for your compassion, you pair of pricks.
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