Today I'm angry about.....

[Montreal Wanderer]

I think it's about 'making the effort'. That shows a degree of respect, I suppose. So I kind of agree with Monty. I have and always will wear a suit and tie to a funeral unless instructed otherwise by the deceased's immediate family.

This belongs in the what made me go Wow thread!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Sorry to hear, bish. Is she in her first year or second year? Also, when I did mine we had the option of retakes in the summer if we wanted. So it might not all be lost.

Hopefully she'll see it as something to bounce back from.

first year - and - yeah, retakes are an option... need to sit back an reflect for a couple of days.. problem with retakes is that they then pile up with the next set of units and exams..

it's not the end of the world - i'm just over-protective and I always react strongly when stuff goes wrong in my kids lives that i can't instantly fix!

nah man, fair enough - education is an emotive subject and like you say one that can't be solved instantly.

But still, at least the opportunity to make things right is still there. I similarly bombed in my first set of a-level results...annyoed and upset me for a bit. But after a while that just turned into a burning ambition to prove everyone wrong. Just hope it doesn't knock her confidence too much.

What subjects is she studying, out of interest?

maths, physics, chemistry & psychology...

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

[thebish]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

intellect-wise - she is brainy enough to have done a lot better than she did...

[Montreal Wanderer]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

intellect-wise - she is brainy enough to have done a lot better than she did...

Then that can be corrected I would think with judicious use of a watch and some self-discipline.

[bobo the clown]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

intellect-wise - she is brainy enough to have done a lot better than she did...

Then that can be corrected I would think with judicious use of a watch and some self-discipline.

Way to go with the empathy overload Monty.

Now, where's that "most pompous" thread gone ??

[Montreal Wanderer]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

intellect-wise - she is brainy enough to have done a lot better than she did...

Then that can be corrected I would think with judicious use of a watch and some self-discipline.

Way to go with the empathy overload Monty.

Now, where's that "most pompous" thread gone ??

It was a pretentious thread not a pompous one I think. My post was not intended as unsympathetic. If I had a child who lacked the intellect to pass exams it is not something that could be corrected. If I had a child who was bright but messed up through poor time management, then something can be done for the retakes. The exam can be examined and a discussion held as to how much time should be assigned to each question. It is obviously better to answer 50% of each of ten questions of equal value, than to answer only two brilliantly. This is something father and daughter can discuss and plan for I would have thought. As such my post was intended to be encouraging since I believe something can be done to remedy a situation.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

Yep, I know the feeling well. It is genuinely something that is very hard to get over if you are not of a cynical disposition.

[Worthy4England]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

Yep, I know the feeling well. It is genuinely something that is very hard to get over if you are not of a cynical disposition.

Nothing to do with cynicism methinks. But everything to do with "how to pass exams".

Surely half the equation is being able to discern what the question is asking and how many points particular elements are likely to score you?

Not filling in reams of semi-relevant information is part of the test too, no?

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

Yep, I know the feeling well. It is genuinely something that is very hard to get over if you are not of a cynical disposition.

Nothing to do with cynicism methinks. But everything to do with "how to pass exams".

Surely half the equation is being able to discern what the question is asking and how many points particular elements are likely to score you?

Not filling in reams of semi-relevant information is part of the test too, no?

I don't really see where we're in disagreement.

The experience of studying law at Cambridge frustrated the hell out of me because I thought it would be lots of mind-expanding, philosophical and jurisprudential discussions, when it was actually the biggest exercise in learning by rote that I have ever encountered.

I was surrounded by lots of exceptionally driven people who were absolutely focused on learning what they needed to know 'to pass exams' and were not interested in delving into things into detail or letting intellectual curiosity take them slightly off piste, if they did not perceive a benefit in terms of the end exam result.

My take on this on this is that it is 'cynical' behaviour, but despite the pejorative flavour of that word, I am not suggesting for a second that they did the wrong thing, especially seeing as the jobs market is particularly brutal at the moment.

[Worthy4England]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

Yep, I know the feeling well. It is genuinely something that is very hard to get over if you are not of a cynical disposition.

Nothing to do with cynicism methinks. But everything to do with "how to pass exams".

Surely half the equation is being able to discern what the question is asking and how many points particular elements are likely to score you?

Not filling in reams of semi-relevant information is part of the test too, no?

I don't really see where we're in disagreement.

The experience of studying law at Cambridge frustrated the hell out of me because I thought it would be lots of mind-expanding, philosophical and jurisprudential discussions, when it was actually the biggest exercise in learning by rote that I have ever encountered.

I was surrounded by lots of exceptionally driven people who were absolutely focused on learning what they needed to know 'to pass exams' and were not interested in delving into things into detail or letting intellectual curiosity take them slightly off piste, if they did not perceive a benefit in terms of the end exam result.

My take on this on this is that it is 'cynical' behaviour, but despite the pejorative flavour of that word, I am not suggesting for a second that they did the wrong thing, especially seeing as the jobs market is particularly brutal at the moment.

I don't think we're in disagreement particularly but my comment wasn't about how much someone had learned, or whether they'd gone off-piste with that learning.

It was about how they recanted their learning in response to a question asked during an exam. Whilst the wider off-piste stuff might well show there's been some wider reading, if that's at the expense of missing the main thrust and response to the question that needed answering, then in exam terms, the time and effort you use to recant it may be counter productive as you spend time on potentially low scoring, peripheral, information.

I used to list what I thought were going to be the top X point scorers for each question dependent on the time allocated to the question. I numbered them as best I could from high scoring to lower scoring. The 5 mins it took to do this helped provide the focus. At the end of the hour (assuming an hour per question) even if not complete, move on to the next question, you've probably covered the most important 80% by then, and the next question still has 100% of its marks going begging.

Just my two pennorth.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Again - I couldn't agree more!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

The RAC.

They've charged my wife twice for the same joint membership. Once at £89 and once at £164. Which is £253 in total. They did this last year and the year before and rectified the situation saying it wouldn't happen again, but it's happened again. A quote this morning for joint membership at the same level was £139. Which is a difference of £114.

I rang up to complain and get it sorted and they won't speak to me because I'm not the 'Primary Member'.

Fraudulent Theiving Bastards.

[thebish]

Haven't watched it, just in case

Is that just in case you do? or just in case you don't??
Anyroad, it's an ace pony. The pure annoyance it's causing is worth the licence fee alone. Dance lil' pony, dance!

a heart-warming twist....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAyxQQOj1fw

[mrkint]

In the gym at lunchtime. Someone was sitting on the gym floor. Playing on his iPad.

Twonk.

[Hoboh]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

Yep, I know the feeling well. It is genuinely something that is very hard to get over if you are not of a cynical disposition.

Nothing to do with cynicism methinks. But everything to do with "how to pass exams".

Surely half the equation is being able to discern what the question is asking and how many points particular elements are likely to score you?

Not filling in reams of semi-relevant information is part of the test too, no?

I don't really see where we're in disagreement.

The experience of studying law at Cambridge frustrated the hell out of me because I thought it would be lots of mind-expanding, philosophical and jurisprudential discussions, when it was actually the biggest exercise in learning by rote that I have ever encountered.

I was surrounded by lots of exceptionally driven people who were absolutely focused on learning what they needed to know 'to pass exams' and were not interested in delving into things into detail or letting intellectual curiosity take them slightly off piste, if they did not perceive a benefit in terms of the end exam result.
My take on this on this is that it is 'cynical' behaviour, but despite the pejorative flavour of that word, I am not suggesting for a second that they did the wrong thing, especially seeing as the jobs market is particularly brutal at the moment.

They will end up the 'average Joes' who make mistakes due to a lack of function to seek the hidden.

Good on yer mums, you ain't too bad after all

[bwfcdan94]

Sorry to ask so blunt a question, but do you think the problem is intellect or something else?

For example, is she a perfectionist to the extent that she doesn't finish exams (something that has always prevented me from excelling in exams)?

the problem of not finishing exams has always been a problem for her - she wants to wrote all she knows for any particular question and so runs out of time...

Yep, I know the feeling well. It is genuinely something that is very hard to get over if you are not of a cynical disposition.

Nothing to do with cynicism methinks. But everything to do with "how to pass exams".

Surely half the equation is being able to discern what the question is asking and how many points particular elements are likely to score you?

Not filling in reams of semi-relevant information is part of the test too, no?

I don't really see where we're in disagreement.

The experience of studying law at Cambridge frustrated the hell out of me because I thought it would be lots of mind-expanding, philosophical and jurisprudential discussions, when it was actually the biggest exercise in learning by rote that I have ever encountered.

I was surrounded by lots of exceptionally driven people who were absolutely focused on learning what they needed to know 'to pass exams' and were not interested in delving into things into detail or letting intellectual curiosity take them slightly off piste, if they did not perceive a benefit in terms of the end exam result.

My take on this on this is that it is 'cynical' behaviour, but despite the pejorative flavour of that word, I am not suggesting for a second that they did the wrong thing, especially seeing as the jobs market is particularly brutal at the moment.

TBH being at school at the moment myself I can tell you it is very different to when alot of you were at school in simple (especially down this way) going to school is about getting qualifications and schools sole objective is to get as many students passing qualifications as possible, end of, to schools nowerdays it does not matter if you come out of school as somebody with absolutly no life skills at all or even develop into an absolutly awefull person without morals, as long as you have peice of paper with good exam results on and a load of certificates in your hand then that is what qualifies as succes. It is absolutly redicoulas and is simply not right that succes is now judged solely on how many GCSEs/ A-LEVELS/Degrees you have but that is the way it is. Just yesterday I was speaking to somebody who got 100% in his A/S geography exam yet could not tell me the capital of Italy, nor France nor could he tell me where Manchester was "it is near Birmingham isn"t it" was his reply. Please explain to me how things can get that bad in education. This is the reason that we have loads and loads of unemployeble stuck up academics who think they know everything and yet know nothing and best of all have absolutly no life or personal skills at all.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

You see, that ^ would be amusing if it wasn't so fxcking tragic. However, despite people having met you and verifying your existence, I still find it very difficult to believe that anybody can really be as ungrammared as you seem to be, especially with the additional twist that you see no irony in taking the piss out of those whose knowledge seems little less than your own...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

The RAC.

They've charged my wife twice for the same joint membership. Once at £89 and once at £164. Which is £253 in total. They did this last year and the year before and rectified the situation saying it wouldn't happen again, but it's happened again. A quote this morning for joint membership at the same level was £139. Which is a difference of £114.

I rang up to complain and get it sorted and they won't speak to me because I'm not the 'Primary Member'.

Fraudulent Theiving Bastards.

After various phone rants today and tonight, they're going to call me back at 9:01am tomorrow.

I'm sure they fxcking are.

Total knobferkinwellys

[Montreal Wanderer]

You see, that ^ would be amusing if it wasn't so fxcking tragic. However, despite people having met you and verifying your existence, I still find it very difficult to believe that anybody can really be as ungrammared as you seem to be, especially with the additional twist that you see no irony in taking the piss out of those whose knowledge seems little less than your own...

Oh come on, LLS. I think you are being absolutly redicoulas and an awefull person to criticize that peice. Are you an unemployeble stuck up academic?

[89bwfc89]

Really sad, rather than angry.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/102 ... ody_found/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Really, really sad.