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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
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41%
Conservatives
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38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
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No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
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3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:23 pm

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:46 am

Christine Lagarde, one of the neo-con commander in chiefs!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... meron.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or maybe just another stupid witch like Ashton and Nuland.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:59 am

Hoboh wrote:Christine Lagarde, one of the neo-con commander in chiefs!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... meron.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or maybe just another stupid witch like Ashton and Nuland.
Is there a point you're making, or was the whole point to call her a witch? How's Harriet these days?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:27 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:Christine Lagarde, one of the neo-con commander in chiefs!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... meron.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or maybe just another stupid witch like Ashton and Nuland.
Is there a point you're making, or was the whole point to call her a witch? How's Harriet these days?
Lagarde is just another branch of the corporate globalisation of the world tree and anyway for a person like her to poke her nose into a British election campaign shows how impartial she and her organisation actually are.
The IMF just like big brother EU along with TTIP are busy removing all vestige of democracy and sovereign government.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:52 am

Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:Christine Lagarde, one of the neo-con commander in chiefs!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... meron.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or maybe just another stupid witch like Ashton and Nuland.
Is there a point you're making, or was the whole point to call her a witch? How's Harriet these days?
Lagarde is just another branch of the corporate globalisation of the world tree and anyway for a person like her to poke her nose into a British election campaign shows how impartial she and her organisation actually are.
The IMF just like big brother EU along with TTIP are busy removing all vestige of democracy and sovereign government.
Oh dear, here we go again...

I don't think she's poking her nose in to our election campaign. She's at an Economics conference in Washington. The Daily Mail has chosen to report in this. Have a go at them.

You don't think the IMF has an important role to play? What/who would perform the role that the IMF are there to do, if not the IMF or similar organisation? Would you rather that role was played by commercial banks or worse, businesses and private investors? I can just see the look on your face when George Soros announces that he has repossessed Chad and the UK because they've defaulted on loans...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Fri Jan 16, 2015 11:32 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:Christine Lagarde, one of the neo-con commander in chiefs!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... meron.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or maybe just another stupid witch like Ashton and Nuland.
Is there a point you're making, or was the whole point to call her a witch? How's Harriet these days?
Lagarde is just another branch of the corporate globalisation of the world tree and anyway for a person like her to poke her nose into a British election campaign shows how impartial she and her organisation actually are.
The IMF just like big brother EU along with TTIP are busy removing all vestige of democracy and sovereign government.
Oh dear, here we go again...

I don't think she's poking her nose in to our election campaign. She's at an Economics conference in Washington. The Daily Mail has chosen to report in this. Have a go at them.

You don't think the IMF has an important role to play? What/who would perform the role that the IMF are there to do, if not the IMF or similar organisation? Would you rather that role was played by commercial banks or worse, businesses and private investors? I can just see the look on your face when George Soros announces that he has repossessed Chad and the UK because they've defaulted on loans...
Actually no I don't think there is a role for the IMF, the IMF merely ensures people like Soros get their money back from places like Greece and others and just whose feckin' money is all the 'loans' the IMF are giving away?
What went wrong when starting a business used to be taking a chance with risks? Now a days business and financiers want the insurance of organisations like the IMF because of course they are too big and important to fail and this just encourages them to take bigger more ludicrous risks pouring money into black hole countries all over the world!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 16, 2015 12:44 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:Christine Lagarde, one of the neo-con commander in chiefs!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... meron.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or maybe just another stupid witch like Ashton and Nuland.
Is there a point you're making, or was the whole point to call her a witch? How's Harriet these days?
Lagarde is just another branch of the corporate globalisation of the world tree and anyway for a person like her to poke her nose into a British election campaign shows how impartial she and her organisation actually are.
The IMF just like big brother EU along with TTIP are busy removing all vestige of democracy and sovereign government.
Oh dear, here we go again...

I don't think she's poking her nose in to our election campaign. She's at an Economics conference in Washington. The Daily Mail has chosen to report in this. Have a go at them.

You don't think the IMF has an important role to play? What/who would perform the role that the IMF are there to do, if not the IMF or similar organisation? Would you rather that role was played by commercial banks or worse, businesses and private investors? I can just see the look on your face when George Soros announces that he has repossessed Chad and the UK because they've defaulted on loans...
Actually no I don't think there is a role for the IMF, the IMF merely ensures people like Soros get their money back from places like Greece and others and just whose feckin' money is all the 'loans' the IMF are giving away?
What went wrong when starting a business used to be taking a chance with risks? Now a days business and financiers want the insurance of organisations like the IMF because of course they are too big and important to fail and this just encourages them to take bigger more ludicrous risks pouring money into black hole countries all over the world!
Most of this either isn't true or only partially true.

It's main raison d'etre was always to try and create stable trading environments for countries. Countries (not corps), when left to their own devices tend to want to do two things economically 1) Stop other countries "stealing" their internal market (from which they raise revenue) and 2) Try and steal other countries internal markets by making their exports more price competitive. To accomplish this, they often used to devalue their own currencies so exports were cheaper or seek other ways to manipulate the FX rates. Devaluation is a downward spiral. So a large part of what it does is to minimize the size of ludicrous risk.

To this end it performs a surveillance operation signed up to by the 188 Countries that are in it (all your friends are in - China, Russia, Iran ;-) )

Yes it also gives loans - we had one from them in the 1970's. It was the largest loan they'd ever given.

When a business (or a country) goes bump, it affects rather more than the business itself. It impacts its employees, the people that had orders waiting dispatch that they'd paid for etc. I'm not sure of the link you're making to business - the IMF doesn't loan to businesses.

You really don't get how any of this works, do you?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:16 pm

I give up :roll:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:20 pm

Finally! ;)

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:31 pm

Hoboh wrote:I give up :roll:
Sorry, do I need to use some shorter words and draw some pictures? :mrgreen:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:41 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I give up :roll:
Sorry, do I need to use some shorter words and draw some pictures? :mrgreen:
No, just stop living in fairy land with magic money! :mrgreen:
Just think what did we ever do without banks, accountants, financiers and crooks!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:55 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I give up :roll:
Sorry, do I need to use some shorter words and draw some pictures? :mrgreen:
No, just stop living in fairy land with magic money! :mrgreen:
Just think what did we ever do without banks, accountants, financiers and crooks!
Well - every democratically elected UK Government since 1945 has seen fit to maintain our membership of the IMF. I do wonder occasionally why that might be? (actually that's a lie - I know why they maintain our membership) Don't you?

What we did without banks, accountants, financiers and crooks was barter individually or collectively - are you suggesting we should go back to this?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:29 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I give up :roll:
Sorry, do I need to use some shorter words and draw some pictures? :mrgreen:
No, just stop living in fairy land with magic money! :mrgreen:
Just think what did we ever do without banks, accountants, financiers and crooks!
Well - every democratically elected UK Government since 1945 has seen fit to maintain our membership of the IMF. I do wonder occasionally why that might be? (actually that's a lie - I know why they maintain our membership) Don't you?

What we did without banks, accountants, financiers and crooks was barter individually or collectively - are you suggesting we should go back to this?
I'm suggesting having real money was the best option.
If x thousand people decided to take x thousands of pounds out of a bank the feck* would turn off it's cash points and bolt the doors aka Northern rock because the bastards just don't have any real cash, well not much, just figures on paper the same as much of this great holy grail of finance. Just the same as shareholders are not investors in companies, after the initial sales of them.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:30 am

Are we are having the poll reset on this thread this year?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:52 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mmmm something smells a bit here!!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:11 am

Shocking. In their words.

Is it equally shocking that most of the MP's who have passed through the privatisation legislation have links to, drum roll please, private healthcare providers?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:47 am

Hoboh wrote:Are we are having the poll reset on this thread this year?
I don't think a poll can be reset. Someone will have to start a new thread instead.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:23 am

I love the cheek of the Europhile!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... enefits-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Then you look at the table and what do you see? Yep, all the Brits receiving benefits in Spain, Italy, Portugal, the East European countries as opposed to their citizens claiming over here!
Funny when something meant to defend a position merely points out what is being said that the poor basket case countries are flooding our markets.
And please one third of those are in Ireland hardly a surprise there, looks like the famed Poles are the laziest.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:48 am

http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=30048" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good old cheating Germans, taking the ball home as usual.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:59 pm

I thought this was interesting: http://blog.policy.manchester.ac.uk/fea ... xtremists/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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