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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
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41%
Conservatives
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38%
Liberal Democrats
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6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
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No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
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No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
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3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:29 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:I should listen to Radio 4 more!

I always maintain, AW, that anyone who moans about the licence fee isn't listening to Radio 4 enough.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Mar 20, 2016 8:08 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Armchair Wanderer wrote:I should listen to Radio 4 more!

I always maintain, AW, that anyone who moans about the licence fee isn't listening to Radio 4 enough.
I always maintain that R4 is for bloke me Dad's age. Mind, that was when I was about 10. :-(

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:25 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Beefheart wrote: It's been lowered over the years which when you take inflation into account is some major fiscal drag, plus I'll be a few hundred quid better off as a result. However, I would rather he kept it if it meant not cutting the disability benefit by £30 a week.
This. My personal gain will make absolutely no tangible difference to my life. Yes I may have a bit more money. But I didn't have it before and daresay I won't notice.

But cutting disability benefit will have a real and noticeable impact on some people's lives.
Scandalous attacking the disabled whilst google and co get away with low/no tax.

What would be interesting would be this 'sugar' tax if TTIP was in place, no doubt the multinational soft drinks companies would be falling over lawyers suing the Gov for an unfair practise affecting their trade.
How is this different than the duty we put on fuel, tobacco, alcohol etc. etc.? It's not a "new" concept...
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... tax-budget" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And we have not got TTIP in place yet, just the bloody European courts!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:59 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Armchair Wanderer wrote:I should listen to Radio 4 more!

I always maintain, AW, that anyone who moans about the licence fee isn't listening to Radio 4 enough.
I always maintain that R4 is for bloke me Dad's age. Mind, that was when I was about 10. :-(
It definitely feels grown up listening to the Today programme. I think I've stuck with Radio 5 in the past to get a bit of sport, but there's no need for that any more :?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Mar 20, 2016 11:14 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Beefheart wrote: It's been lowered over the years which when you take inflation into account is some major fiscal drag, plus I'll be a few hundred quid better off as a result. However, I would rather he kept it if it meant not cutting the disability benefit by £30 a week.
This. My personal gain will make absolutely no tangible difference to my life. Yes I may have a bit more money. But I didn't have it before and daresay I won't notice.

But cutting disability benefit will have a real and noticeable impact on some people's lives.
Scandalous attacking the disabled whilst google and co get away with low/no tax.

What would be interesting would be this 'sugar' tax if TTIP was in place, no doubt the multinational soft drinks companies would be falling over lawyers suing the Gov for an unfair practise affecting their trade.
How is this different than the duty we put on fuel, tobacco, alcohol etc. etc.? It's not a "new" concept...
http://www.theguardian.com/business/201 ... tax-budget" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And we have not got TTIP in place yet, just the bloody European courts!
I think the tax is a bit of a mess, but only in the sense that you can still order half a dozen donuts, whilst you're buying your high-tax Irn Bru...and what about them coffees that have about ten ton of sugar in? That's more of a problem for me, than the European Courts.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:14 pm

IDS's interview on Sunday with Andrew Marr



Awfully nice of Corbyn not to mention IDS's resignation at all in the Commons today.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:15 pm

...and Osborne hasn't turned up - has sent a junior minister to deal with labours pre-tabled urgent questions about the Budget...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:11 pm

I read someone the other day describe the 2020 election as a deathmatch between 1983 Labour and 1997 Tories :)
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:04 pm

Ok - I thought I was reasonable at maths, but clearly I'm not as astute as I thought I was. Here's the maths question that's stumping me

Mr Arthur Government wants to save £12bn from welfare by 2020. Mr Dick Chancellor presents some figures to do just that (showing all his workings in the margin). A short while later Mr Cliff Jumper takes £4.4bn away from Mr Chancellors neat working out. Mr A Government says we're not going to cut welfare any further but the £12bn will still add up. Please explain how this could be - definitely show your workings in the margin, as you will score marks for humour content, even if the answer at the bottom is incorrect.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:17 pm

Worthy4England wrote:Ok - I thought I was reasonable at maths, but clearly I'm not as astute as I thought I was. Here's the maths question that's stumping me

Mr Arthur Government wants to save £12bn from welfare by 2020. Mr Dick Chancellor presents some figures to do just that (showing all his workings in the margin). A short while later Mr Cliff Jumper takes £4.4bn away from Mr Chancellors neat working out. Mr A Government says we're not going to cut welfare any further but the £12bn will still add up. Please explain how this could be - definitely show your workings in the margin, as you will score marks for humour content, even if the answer at the bottom is incorrect.
Well, he'll just score it onto my tab, same as every other c*nt!
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:25 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:Ok - I thought I was reasonable at maths, but clearly I'm not as astute as I thought I was. Here's the maths question that's stumping me

Mr Arthur Government wants to save £12bn from welfare by 2020. Mr Dick Chancellor presents some figures to do just that (showing all his workings in the margin). A short while later Mr Cliff Jumper takes £4.4bn away from Mr Chancellors neat working out. Mr A Government says we're not going to cut welfare any further but the £12bn will still add up. Please explain how this could be - definitely show your workings in the margin, as you will score marks for humour content, even if the answer at the bottom is incorrect.
Well, he'll just score it onto my tab, same as every other c*nt!
Zero marks for a wrong answer and no workings out in the margin. He's just lowered your tab. :-) What we need here is an economic miracle!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:00 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:Ok - I thought I was reasonable at maths, but clearly I'm not as astute as I thought I was. Here's the maths question that's stumping me

Mr Arthur Government wants to save £12bn from welfare by 2020. Mr Dick Chancellor presents some figures to do just that (showing all his workings in the margin). A short while later Mr Cliff Jumper takes £4.4bn away from Mr Chancellors neat working out. Mr A Government says we're not going to cut welfare any further but the £12bn will still add up. Please explain how this could be - definitely show your workings in the margin, as you will score marks for humour content, even if the answer at the bottom is incorrect.
Well, he'll just score it onto my tab, same as every other c*nt!
Zero marks for a wrong answer and no workings out in the margin. He's just lowered your tab. :-) What we need here is an economic miracle!
He's making out that he's lowered my tap, the deceptive 4ucker. ;)
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:44 pm

Prufrock wrote:I read someone the other day describe the 2020 election as a deathmatch between 1983 Labour and 1997 Tories :)
You know what? That is very accurate.

Though I think we will see a repeat of 92 with everyone thinking the Tories are out before they win with a reduced majority. Labour make themselves re-electable and get in 5 years down the line.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Enoch » Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:39 am

Prufrock wrote:I read someone the other day describe the 2020 election as a deathmatch between 1983 Labour and 1997 Tories :)
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:25 pm

Incredible reading. Ian Lavery MP, the National Union of Mineworkers (Northumberland Area) and money, money money.

https://storify.com/hopisen/defending-g ... y.co_b0xVj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:44 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:Incredible reading. Ian Lavery MP, the National Union of Mineworkers (Northumberland Area) and money, money money.

https://storify.com/hopisen/defending-g ... y.co_b0xVj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Incredible research, but yes, astounding stuff.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bedwetter2 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:10 am

KeyserSoze wrote:Incredible reading. Ian Lavery MP, the National Union of Mineworkers (Northumberland Area) and money, money money.

https://storify.com/hopisen/defending-g ... y.co_b0xVj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Unbelievable, it sounds like the worst of corruption stories from a banana republic . Lavery and Murphy(?) clearly think that they are above the laws governing the fiduciary obligations applying to officers of a trade union. It'll be interesting to watch the wriggling worms try to get off the hook.

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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:26 am

bedwetter2 wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:Incredible reading. Ian Lavery MP, the National Union of Mineworkers (Northumberland Area) and money, money money.

https://storify.com/hopisen/defending-g ... y.co_b0xVj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Unbelievable, it sounds like the worst of corruption stories from a banana republic . Lavery and Murphy(?) clearly think that they are above the laws governing the fiduciary obligations applying to officers of a trade union. It'll be interesting to watch the wriggling worms try to get off the hook.
Absolutely - hope someone follows the investigation through.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:38 pm

Trouble at't local (tax) mill.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/143 ... x_on_time/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by bedwetter2 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:42 am

TANGODANCER wrote:Trouble at't local (tax) mill.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/143 ... x_on_time/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I think the poor bugger must have early stage Alzheimers - he has been dressed as Jeremiah Corbyn by his wife or carer and he hasn't noticed.

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