The Politics Thread

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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:54 pm

Hoboh wrote:
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Hoboh wrote:
You don't seriously thing MEP's influence anything in the EU do you?

That's the business of the commission, the EU parliament is little more than a rubber stamp and talking shop.
The Commission get to propose stuff, administer stuff and enforce directives/legislation. The actual legislation stuff is Parliament and the Council - all people you and I can vote for (the UK ones). If creating legislation isn't influence then what is? :conf:

You've clearly been bemoaning something for at least a decade without understanding what it is you're bemoaning. Next you'll be moaning about civil servants having more influence than MPs...
before you go accusing anyone of not understanding anything I'd suggest you do some looking into what you are talking about.
Quite right, Brother Hoboh - We don't want any folks just spouting all sorts of bollocks, now do we? :mrgreen:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by boltonboris » Tue Jul 05, 2016 4:57 pm

MEP's are just little statues placed in there to make it look like the gaffers give a fvck
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:00 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
You don't seriously thing MEP's influence anything in the EU do you?

That's the business of the commission, the EU parliament is little more than a rubber stamp and talking shop.
The Commission get to propose stuff, administer stuff and enforce directives/legislation. The actual legislation stuff is Parliament and the Council - all people you and I can vote for (the UK ones). If creating legislation isn't influence then what is? :conf:

You've clearly been bemoaning something for at least a decade without understanding what it is you're bemoaning. Next you'll be moaning about civil servants having more influence than MPs...
before you go accusing anyone of not understanding anything I'd suggest you do some looking into what you are talking about.
I used to work for the EU. I think I might know a little about it.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:01 pm

boltonboris wrote:MEP's are just little statues placed in there to make it look like the gaffers give a fvck
The gaffers being the council, who are...your elected PM.

Just to add that the Parliament has the power to kick the Commission lot out with a simple 2/3s majority vote. Completely powerless :roll:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:03 pm

boltonboris wrote:MEP's are just little statues placed in there to make it look like the gaffers give a fvck
That's sounding way too close to a description of our defenders...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:44 pm

HIGNFY:
After the UK votes to "take back control", 330 Tory MPs decide which 2 candidates 0.2% of the population will vote for to be PM.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:06 pm

Did Liam Fox honestly think he had a chance of winning it, or was he just asked to pad the numbers out? :conf:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:14 pm

Haha, we were just saying this at work today. One of my colleagues was asking in a very round about way as to his chances of a promotion. I said "What he's trying to say is 'am I Liam Fox?'".
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:46 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Haha, we were just saying this at work today. One of my colleagues was asking in a very round about way as to his chances of a promotion. I said "What he's trying to say is 'am I Liam Fox?'".
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:55 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Haha, we were just saying this at work today. One of my colleagues was asking in a very round about way as to his chances of a promotion. I said "What he's trying to say is 'am I Liam Fox?'".
:D
He said he was merely entering to bring a couple of key issues to the forefront of the discussion and he is confident he has done that.
Can't remeber what they were though.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:59 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Haha, we were just saying this at work today. One of my colleagues was asking in a very round about way as to his chances of a promotion. I said "What he's trying to say is 'am I Liam Fox?'".
:D
He said he was merely entering to bring a couple of key issues to the forefront of the discussion and he is confident he has done that.
Can't remeber what they were though.
Oh then he must be feeling triumphant on every front this evening then. :D
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:07 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Haha, we were just saying this at work today. One of my colleagues was asking in a very round about way as to his chances of a promotion. I said "What he's trying to say is 'am I Liam Fox?'".
:D
He said he was merely entering to bring a couple of key issues to the forefront of the discussion and he is confident he has done that.
Can't remeber what they were though.
Oh then he must be feeling triumphant on every front this evening then. :D
:lol:
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Little Green Man » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:18 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:Haha, we were just saying this at work today. One of my colleagues was asking in a very round about way as to his chances of a promotion. I said "What he's trying to say is 'am I Liam Fox?'".
:D
He said he was merely entering to bring a couple of key issues to the forefront of the discussion and he is confident he has done that.
Can't remeber what they were though.
Fox hunting?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:33 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
You don't seriously thing MEP's influence anything in the EU do you?

That's the business of the commission, the EU parliament is little more than a rubber stamp and talking shop.
The Commission get to propose stuff, administer stuff and enforce directives/legislation. The actual legislation stuff is Parliament and the Council - all people you and I can vote for (the UK ones). If creating legislation isn't influence then what is? :conf:

You've clearly been bemoaning something for at least a decade without understanding what it is you're bemoaning. Next you'll be moaning about civil servants having more influence than MPs...
before you go accusing anyone of not understanding anything I'd suggest you do some looking into what you are talking about.
I used to work for the EU. I think I might know a little about it.
Presumably Hoboh has gone off to look into what he's talking about. I mean, it would be very unusual for a Brexiter to bugger off half way through with no intention of finishing what they started...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by boltonboris » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:09 am

IS Ian Fox the one who wants to "cure" gays?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:11 am

Isn't that that Crabbe fella (or whatever he's called?)
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Jul 06, 2016 10:12 am

Which he claims is nonsense. You would though, wouldn't you?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:42 am

Chilcot says there was no need to go to war in March 2003.
Blair “overestimated his ability” to influence US decisions on Iraq, Chilcot says
Chilcot says UK was fighting campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan at the same time when it did not have the resources to do so
Chilcot says the inquiry does not accept Blair’s claim that it was impossible to predict post-invasion problems
Chilcot says Blair presented the intelligence about Iraq’s WMD 'with a certainty that was not justified'
Chilcot says without evidence of major new Iraqi violations, most UN security council members were not convinced peaceful alternatives to war had been exhausted.

He says Blair and Bush blamed France for obstructing action. They said France was undermining the UN security council’s authority.
Chilcot says his inquiry concluded it was America and Britain who were undermining the authority of the UN security council, because they pushed for military action when peaceful alternatives had not been exhausted.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:45 am

I wonder if this is why Corbyn's been hanging on?

Over to you, JC. Make it count, Owd Lad :)

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:49 am

Has he mentioned the toilet habits of bears yet, or whether the popes faith is an ecumenical matter.
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