The Politics Thread

[thebish]

I would like to see the whole honours system scrapped. Complete waste of time. I would tell them where to shove it if I was recommended for one.

aye... those honoured for "public service" have usually been very well paid for the jobs they have done...

Well, I've absolutely no idea which camp Mrs Cameron's stylist falls into. Absolutely ridiculous, the whole thing.

she was remunerated to the tune of £53,000 per year... allegedly...

[BWFC_Insane]

#projectfear

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[Abdoulaye's Twin]

[Beefheart]

#projectfear

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Well, a currency is always going to lose value if interest rates get cut, so that's hardly surprising. The fact they've had to cut interest rates is the story. #ProjectTheThingsTheExpertsSaidWouldHappenAreNowHappening

[BWFC_Insane]

#projectfear

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Well, a currency is always going to lose value if interest rates get cut, so that's hardly surprising. The fact they've had to cut interest rates is the story. #ProjectTheThingsTheExpertsSaidWouldHappenAreNowHappening

Aye, was referring to the alarming data on the economy driving the interest rate cut.

The stuff the pro-brexit mob said wouldn't happen....IS NOW HAPPENING.

[Hoboh]

#projectfear

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Well, a currency is always going to lose value if interest rates get cut, so that's hardly surprising. The fact they've had to cut interest rates is the story. #ProjectTheThingsTheExpertsSaidWouldHappenAreNowHappening

Aye, was referring to the alarming data on the economy driving the interest rate cut.

The stuff the pro-brexit mob said wouldn't happen....IS NOW HAPPENING.

WW3 hasn't broken out yet, the Russians have not invaded, remainers sad. The sun will set at some point today and tomorrow and the day after, it's all Brexit fault.
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Unhappy remainers looking to flee to New Zealand who are not part of the precious EU, nor have freedom of movement, single market and lack all the freebie junkets the average snowflake requires, you know, all the things close to their hearts, two faced tw*ts.
Why are you going to an independent country that is not part of your beloved federal Europe?

[BWFC_Insane]

#projectfear

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 71686.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well, a currency is always going to lose value if interest rates get cut, so that's hardly surprising. The fact they've had to cut interest rates is the story. #ProjectTheThingsTheExpertsSaidWouldHappenAreNowHappening

Aye, was referring to the alarming data on the economy driving the interest rate cut.

The stuff the pro-brexit mob said wouldn't happen....IS NOW HAPPENING.

WW3 hasn't broken out yet, the Russians have not invaded, remainers sad. The sun will set at some point today and tomorrow and the day after, it's all Brexit fault.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-80586706" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Unhappy remainers looking to flee to New Zealand who are not part of the precious EU, nor have freedom of movement, single market and lack all the freebie junkets the average snowflake requires, you know, all the things close to their hearts, two faced tw*ts.
Why are you going to an independent country that is not part of your beloved federal Europe?

Why make up the WW3 stuff? Or the Russian invasion?

We said the economy would tank. It is tanking. Just accept that we were correct.

[thebish]

I think it might be a little bit early to describe the economy as "tanking"... I expect that it will - but any "I told you so"s based on the little evidence we have so far are a bit thin... (also - under Osbourne's failed austerity plan - it was pretty tanky anyway!)

if Hoboh is genuinely happy with a state of affairs that simply features the not-yet happening of WW3 or some kind of invasion by Russia - then he's easily pleased - and let's let him just be happy, I say!

[Bijou Bob]

#projectfear

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 71686.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Well, a currency is always going to lose value if interest rates get cut, so that's hardly surprising. The fact they've had to cut interest rates is the story. #ProjectTheThingsTheExpertsSaidWouldHappenAreNowHappening

Aye, was referring to the alarming data on the economy driving the interest rate cut.

The stuff the pro-brexit mob said wouldn't happen....IS NOW HAPPENING.

WW3 hasn't broken out yet, the Russians have not invaded, remainers sad. The sun will set at some point today and tomorrow and the day after, it's all Brexit fault.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... t-80586706" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Unhappy remainers looking to flee to New Zealand who are not part of the precious EU, nor have freedom of movement, single market and lack all the freebie junkets the average snowflake requires, you know, all the things close to their hearts, two faced tw*ts.
Why are you going to an independent country that is not part of your beloved federal Europe?

Why make up the WW3 stuff? Or the Russian invasion?

We said the economy would tank. It is tanking. Just accept that we were correct.

In the interest of balance, he hasn't made it up. The Remain argument during the run in to the referendum was that a vote to leave could result in another war in Europe - a frankly ridiculous suggestion. There was also a suggestion made that to vote to leave would leave us in a very weak position with Russia and that this could be just what Putin needed to launch a military offensive.

In respect of the economy, I think it's still too early to say what is likley to happen either way or to ascribe any changes purely to the referendum result. The only certainty so far, is that it's cost me more to go on holiday this year.

[thebish]

In the interest of balance, he hasn't made it up.

in the interests of further balance - I don't remember anyone claiming that WW3 would break up within a month or so of the referendum...

what I do remember is something a lot less dramatic - that it might have a destabilising effect on Europe...

I am happy to be reminded of actual quotes in case my memory is failing me...

I think this is what Hobes is referring to...

"Can we be so sure peace and stability on our continent are assured beyond any shadow of doubt? Is that a risk worth taking? I would never be so rash to make that assumption.
(in response to quaestion):
No, I don't believe that leaving the EU would cause World War Three to break out on the European continent.

When terrorists are planning to kill and maim people on British streets, the closest possible security cooperation is far more important than sovereignty in its purest theoretical form.

[BWFC_Insane]

I think it might be a little bit early to describe the economy as "tanking"... I expect that it will - but any "I told you so"s based on the little evidence we have so far are a bit thin... (also - under Osbourne's failed austerity plan - it was pretty tanky anyway!)

if Hoboh is genuinely happy with a state of affairs that simply features the not-yet happening of WW3 or some kind of invasion by Russia - then he's easily pleased - and let's let him just be happy, I say!

They haven't cut interest rates as a joke. The data doesn't look good, hence the cut.

[thebish]

I think it might be a little bit early to describe the economy as "tanking"... I expect that it will - but any "I told you so"s based on the little evidence we have so far are a bit thin... (also - under Osbourne's failed austerity plan - it was pretty tanky anyway!)

if Hoboh is genuinely happy with a state of affairs that simply features the not-yet happening of WW3 or some kind of invasion by Russia - then he's easily pleased - and let's let him just be happy, I say!

They haven't cut interest rates as a joke. The data doesn't look good, hence the cut.

short term data moves can look good and bad - to really know we will need a longer time-span - you know this..

also - the Brexiters DID say that there would be short term instability and uncertainty in the economy leading to a bit of a wobble...

so - whilst I agree with you that Brexit is/was a bad thing for the economy - I think you are jumping the gun to claim anything like proof at this point.

[Lord Kangana]

According to The Telegraph its all project fears fault, not brexit. My good friend, purely by chance an economist, calls this the echo chamber effect, where papers that have rabidly fed anti-European rhetoric to their readerships over a period of time can hardly volte-face now. One feeds into the other.

Is The Wall Street Journal also in on project fear after they reported yesterday on the slumping UK economy in direct contrast to the Eurozone strengthening? And Nissan, after announcing that investments are on hold in the UK until our future relationship with Europe is clarified?

Are we to expect a run on the tinfoil market?

[boltonboris]

Short term pain for long term gain, you bunch of impatient, reactionary shithouses

[Montreal Wanderer]

Today the BBC summed up the economic implications of Brexit to date. Frankly it does appear that good. The economic slowdown has a fifty-fifty chance of falling into recession in the next 18 months. Gloomy forecasts in many sectors (especially tinfoil futures).

[Worthy4England]

Short term pain for long term gain, you bunch of impatient, reactionary shithouses

How long term are we talking? When am I going to see immigration down to the 10's of thousands and the economy bounce back?

[thebish]

Today the BBC summed up the economic implications of Brexit to date. Frankly it does appear that good. The economic slowdown has a fifty-fifty chance of falling into recession in the next 18 months. Gloomy forecasts in many sectors (especially tinfoil futures).

there was a good chance osbourne was leading us into recession before brexit...

[thebish]

Short term pain for long term gain, you bunch of impatient, reactionary shithouses

How long term are we talking? When am I going to see immigration down to the 10's of thousands and the economy bounce back?

your great granchildren...

[boltonboris]

Short term pain for long term gain, you bunch of impatient, reactionary shithouses

How long term are we talking? When am I going to see immigration down to the 10's of thousands and the economy bounce back?

This time in 2 years, our economy will be growing at a faster rate than it was this time last year

Internet fiver. In fact feck it, a real life fiver.

If I'm still alive and have gotten through the obvious hardship and poverty that will strike us all between now and then, that is

[boltonboris]

Today the BBC summed up the economic implications of Brexit to date. Frankly it does appear that good. The economic slowdown has a fifty-fifty chance of falling into recession in the next 18 months. Gloomy forecasts in many sectors (especially tinfoil futures).

there was a good chance osbourne was leading us into recession before brexit...

There's an even gooder chance that EU will slide into a recession before we do