What are you watching tonight?

Bruno · Post by **Bruno** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 8:48 am

Tonight I will be watching the last two minutes of MOTD.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:05 am

Bruno wrote:Tonight I will be watching the last two minutes of MOTD.

General Mannerheim · Post by **General Mannerheim** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:25 am

Watched Magnolia last night, thought it was great - would appreciate an explanation of the raining frogs though???

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:02 pm

Down at my daughters for tea Saturday and watched a film after. I know we don't all share the same tastes, but I thought "Strangers" was a total load of bollox.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:50 pm

Dutifully watched part the next of Desperate Romantics. Taking on all the characteristics of a porn movie show. Wonder they had any time to paint. Think the scriptwriters are takng a bit too much licence with their portrayals of the artists, including old Charles Dickens.

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:54 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Dutifully watched part the next of Desperate Romantics. Taking on all the characteristics of a porn movie show. Wonder they had any time to paint. Think the scriptwriters are takng a bit too much licence with their portrayals of the artists, including old Charles Dickens.

Enjoyable episode for those appreciating the beauties of the larger lady...

Only one writer - peter bowker - and every episode is prefaced by an acknowledgement that they are indeed taking licence...

Are you certain there wasn't a charles dickens school for fallen women???

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:57 pm

William the White wrote: Are you certain there wasn't a charles dickens school for fallen women???

It was the best of schools, it was the worst of schools!

Night.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:17 am

William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Dutifully watched part the next of Desperate Romantics. Taking on all the characteristics of a porn movie show. Wonder they had any time to paint. Think the scriptwriters are takng a bit too much licence with their portrayals of the artists, including old Charles Dickens.
Enjoyable episode for those appreciating the beauties of the larger lady...

Only one writer - peter bowker - and every episode is prefaced by an acknowledgement that they are indeed taking licence...

Are you certain there wasn't a charles dickens school for fallen women???

Must have been packed to the rafters if there was.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:30 pm

I watched Coast. On the face of it it should be fooking dull but its fascinating. I must be getting old.

ratbert · Post by **ratbert** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:14 pm

I love Coast, the Faroe Isles look spectacular (before I mention that all-girl rowing team!)

jmjhb · Post by **jmjhb** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:36 am

I just watched Moon. Best sci-fi film for ages.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:31 pm

Good old-fashioned western tonight, Ulzana'a Raid, on Freeview 24 at 10-00. Kingdom of Heaven (great film) is on Freeview 10? also at 9-0.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:15 pm

Watched the film of John Le Carre's The Constant Gardner. Good film but only touching Africa's problems. Sobering.

Verbal · Post by **Verbal** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:33 pm

Trailer for Christopher Nolan's movie, Inception

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUtEUnGWI_g

giggety.

edit: I typed in 'Inception trailer' into youtube, and on seeing the fourth video down I almost did a double take. Has the caped crusader turned to reviewing trailers of the TDK director?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_csP8IK9kKc

no, but it's uncanny(ish)

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:44 pm

Deadliest Warrior. Speechless.

What. The. Feck.

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:50 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Good old-fashioned western tonight, Ulzana'a Raid, on Freeview 24 at 10-00. Kingdom of Heaven (great film) is on Freeview 10? also at 9-0.

Kingdom of Heaven truly abysmal in my opinion. As crass as it gets.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:13 am

William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Good old-fashioned western tonight, Ulzana'a Raid, on Freeview 24 at 10-00. Kingdom of Heaven (great film) is on Freeview 10? also at 9-0.
Kingdom of Heaven truly abysmal in my opinion. As crass as it gets.

Define?

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:38 am

TANGODANCER wrote:
William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Good old-fashioned western tonight, Ulzana'a Raid, on Freeview 24 at 10-00. Kingdom of Heaven (great film) is on Freeview 10? also at 9-0.
Kingdom of Heaven truly abysmal in my opinion. As crass as it gets.
Define?

This would need to be a conversation - I can see how, in some ways, photography, for instance, the movie works well - it's crassness to me is simply profoundly at the heart of the project. It attempts to bring a pretty 'liberal hollywood' outlook to a historical act of naked aggression and treat both sides of the experience as morally culpable.

I just don't think this works in human terms. The violence of the aggressor is not as culpable as the violence of the victim in self defence. Even the law recognises the right to self-defence. To treat both sides as morally equal in such circumstances is crass. And I think this movie is sickeningly crass.

superjohnmcginlay · Post by **superjohnmcginlay** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:25 am

I watched some fella going on about some tour the queen did back in the 50s. Ive no idea why. Was alright.

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:12 am

William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
William the White wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:Good old-fashioned western tonight, Ulzana'a Raid, on Freeview 24 at 10-00. Kingdom of Heaven (great film) is on Freeview 10? also at 9-0.
Kingdom of Heaven truly abysmal in my opinion. As crass as it gets.
Define?
This would need to be a conversation - I can see how, in some ways, photography, for instance, the movie works well - it's crassness to me is simply profoundly at the heart of the project. It attempts to bring a pretty 'liberal hollywood' outlook to a historical act of naked aggression and treat both sides of the experience as morally culpable.

I just don't think this works in human terms. The violence of the aggressor is not as culpable as the violence of the victim in self defence. Even the law recognises the right to self-defence. To treat both sides as morally equal in such circumstances is crass. And I think this movie is sickeningly crass.

Okay. We're going to disagree, I can tell, but it'll allow a bit of debate:

First and foremost it's a film, entertainment, and a decent storyline as such. I claimed nothing more. People are not going to pay it any more historical attention than Robin Hood. Any thinking person who knows their history is hardly likely to take it as earthshaking revelation time, are they?

Secondly, in its very nature and presentation it attempts to show the futility of it all rather than moralise on either side. It brings the tale down to two men in the end who are both seen to be somewhat puzzled as to what any of it has achieved. The whole thing is based loosely around the crusades of a period heading to be almost a millenium ago. Are we still trying to make ourselves do penance for the sins of the fathers? You see, frankly, all this "apologising" for something that was a fact of life/sign of the times etc, all those years ago, is the most useless of pastimes to me. Everyone took orders from someone else and the Kings and Pope were the real culprits. We, as today, had nothing to do with any of it and all this guilt is rather false and useless . You can't apologise for someone else, particularly some one who's been dead almost a thousand years.

The film isn't crass at all in my eyes. It doesn't attempt to justify anything and attempts to show the uselessness of war and the gullibility of the people of the time, a time ruled by religeous fervour and basic poverty with the road to Jerusalem seen as the saving grace for all. The west at least has moved on a long way from "Killing Saracens is not a crime, God wills it!", the east, well, I'm not quite as sure about. Neither are just vegetable or mineral but have a mainly animal core. Trying to rationalise that part can't be done without realising the nature of the beast in both.

No, not a crass film at all for me.

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