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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:37 pm

Remind me never to hire you. Is your specialised field parking tickets? :conf:
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:51 pm

Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
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Bruce Rioja wrote:Remind me never to hire you. Is your specialised field parking tickets? :conf:

Go on then, Columbo, I'll bite. What evidence is it, before the defence have even begun, that convinces you of his guilt?

It's just, from where I'm standing, the whole deciding your opinion from one-sided evidence is a bit...how do you say...Hoboh-like :fingers:.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:09 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:Remind me never to hire you. Is your specialised field parking tickets? :conf:

Go on then, Columbo, I'll bite. What evidence is it, before the defence have even begun, that convinces you of his guilt?

It's just, from where I'm standing, the whole deciding your opinion from one-sided evidence is a bit...how do you say...Hoboh-like :fingers:.
As I suspected - parking tickets.

Look at your last post. Every single line starts unsure / not sure - Perry fecking Mason :lol:
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Post by jaffka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:39 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
I am free to come to any conclusion I want, as can many others, seeing as it wont effect the final decision of the trial.

I think he has done it.

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Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:43 pm

jaffka wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
I am free to come to any conclusion I want, as can many others, seeing as it wont effect the final decision of the trial.

I think he has done it.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1268966.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Post by Prufrock » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:44 pm

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Bruce Rioja wrote:Remind me never to hire you. Is your specialised field parking tickets? :conf:

Go on then, Columbo, I'll bite. What evidence is it, before the defence have even begun, that convinces you of his guilt?

It's just, from where I'm standing, the whole deciding your opinion from one-sided evidence is a bit...how do you say...Hoboh-like :fingers:.
As I suspected - parking tickets.

Look at your last post. Every single line starts unsure / not sure - Perry fecking Mason :lol:
Almost like it was on purpose isn't it, given I'm making the point that no one can know yet. It's evidence that hasn't been opposed.

And by can't 'know' I don't mean in some philosophical way. Of course, no-one who wasn't there can 'know', but I mean specifically that you can't come to any reasonable conclusion when you've only heard snippets of media reports presenting only part of only one side's story. But carry on jumping the gun like a Daily Mail-linking, EU-hating, UKIP-voting tramp with a penchant for motorbikes if you want :D.

So yeah, what evidence is it that convinces you of his guilt? Or is it, as I suspected, that you haven't got a clue?
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by jaffka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:46 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:
jaffka wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
I am free to come to any conclusion I want, as can many others, seeing as it wont effect the final decision of the trial.

I think he has done it.

:roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1268966.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
any relevance to this trial being in South Africa and I am where ever in the world

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Post by Prufrock » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:49 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:
jaffka wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
I am free to come to any conclusion I want, as can many others, seeing as it wont effect the final decision of the trial.

I think he has done it.

:roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1268966.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:D

Though tbf the chances of a judge (rather than a jury) in South Africa being influenced by the reckonings of Jaffka and BR is unlikely. Not that I'm suggesting they don't have huge international followings.

Everyone has got a gut 'reckon' in these things, but I'm surprised people can have come to such definitive conclusions 7 days in!
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:52 pm

So yeah, what evidence have you that convinces us as to his innocence? Or is it, as / suspected, you haven't got a clue?
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Post by jaffka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:53 pm

Prufrock wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:
jaffka wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
I am free to come to any conclusion I want, as can many others, seeing as it wont effect the final decision of the trial.

I think he has done it.

:roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1268966.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:D

Though tbf the chances of a judge (rather than a jury) in South Africa being influenced by the reckonings of Jaffka and BR is unlikely. Not that I'm suggesting they don't have huge international followings.

Everyone has got a gut 'reckon' in these things, but I'm surprised people can have come to such definitive conclusions 7 days in!
So do you actually specialise in parking tickets?

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:59 pm

jaffka wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:
jaffka wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
I am free to come to any conclusion I want, as can many others, seeing as it wont effect the final decision of the trial.

I think he has done it.

:roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1268966.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
any relevance to this trial being in South Africa and I am where ever in the world
you just wrote and [by way of tw] published something which could prejudice an active case. obviously this website aint top of anyone's agenda but still it's something worth bearing in mind before you do something similar next time.

you are free to come to your own conclusion, just be wary about what publishing that conclusion for everyone to see can mean. same with copyright photos and all that.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Prufrock » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:02 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:So yeah, what evidence have you that convinces us as to his innocence? Or is it, as / suspected, you haven't got a clue?
Where have I said I'm convinced of his innocence :conf:? I'm far from convinced either way. Maybe I didn't start enough sentences with 'Unconvinced by' :twisted: . You haven't got anywhere near enough evidence to say that he did, or or that he didn't, do it with any conviction or rationale, and I've got as much evidence as you.

The prosecution has barely got started (I think I read they've got 80 witnesses and they're about 5 in) and the defence hasn't even started yet.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:04 pm

It's almost like people on the internet can't see grey areas, or something.
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Post by jaffka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:05 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:
jaffka wrote:
KeyserSoze wrote:
jaffka wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:Everyone has the tight to make a defense. We haven't heard his yet so perhaps we should not conclude "guilty as sin" until we have. It is a safeguard we ourselves may want some day.
I am free to come to any conclusion I want, as can many others, seeing as it wont effect the final decision of the trial.

I think he has done it.

:roll:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1268966.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
any relevance to this trial being in South Africa and I am where ever in the world
you just wrote and [by way of tw] published something which could prejudice an active case. obviously this website aint top of anyone's agenda but still it's something worth bearing in mind before you do something similar next time.

you are free to come to your own conclusion, just be wary about what publishing that conclusion for everyone to see can mean. same with copyright photos and all that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26334682" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

you actually don't know what you are on about, do you?

the trial is being 'partially' televised

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Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:06 pm

and?
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Post by jaffka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:08 pm

as a result the trial is opened up more to the public and as such public discussion will increase

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Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:14 pm

yeah but the guys in court have privilege to say stuff like that. you don't.
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Post by jaffka » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:15 pm

KeyserSoze wrote:yeah but the guys in court have privilege to say stuff like that. you don't.
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Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:21 pm

good argument fella. You're a champion.
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