Today I'm angry about.....

[Bruce Rioja]

Okay, I conceede that one, I'd be foolish to argue with someone of greater knowledge of the subject and I should have done some research.

I've not spotted this bothering you previously. Do you have a soft spot for gay marriage?

Sorry, Hoboh, but you asked for that one.

[Hoboh]

Okay, I conceede that one, I'd be foolish to argue with someone of greater knowledge of the subject and I should have done some research.

I've not spotted this bothering you previously. Do you have a soft spot for gay marriage?

Sorry, Hoboh, but you asked for that one.

I know, but at least I was honest in admitting I was wrong and humble

To be honest I made my point rather badly attacking just gay marriage, its the slow erosion of many cornerstones of life that bugs.

No doubt that will tickle Le bish

[thebish]

some cornerstones need to be eroded - it's how we move forwards...

[Burnden Paddock]

My laptop breaking had no idea how much I relied on it. Had most stuff backed up but photos of the dog (rip ) and some banging choons could be lost forever

Took mine to a little shop on Tonge Moor Road. The laptop was fecked, but the guy there managed to copy everything to my external hard drive for £20.

[Gravedigger]

As long as the HDD is okay, couple of quid for a caddy, insert drive and copy to another computer although Burnden Paddock's idea is a goodun. £20 for recovery is a bargain.

[Hoboh]

some cornerstones need to be eroded - it's how we move forwards...

Or how things collapse!

[thebish]

some cornerstones need to be eroded - it's how we move forwards...

Or how things collapse!

some things need to collapse!

[Hoboh]

some cornerstones need to be eroded - it's how we move forwards...

Or how things collapse!

some things need to collapse!

Some things need to be rebuilt

[thebish]

some cornerstones need to be eroded - it's how we move forwards...

Or how things collapse!

some things need to collapse!

Some things need to be rebuilt

such as?

[Hoboh]

some cornerstones need to be eroded - it's how we move forwards...

Or how things collapse!

some things need to collapse!

Some things need to be rebuilt

such as?

Cornerstones

[malcd1]

[Worthy4England]

Top answer.

[bwfcdan94]

But the bolded bit suggests you think that a system that leads to 85 people being richer than half the world is a good and fair one. So what is the justification for it, in your eyes?

Given the current state of 'global' governance, does it make sense to talk of a 'system'? Isn't this a bit like discussing whether it's a good thing that 70% of the Earth's surface is water when so many live in cramped conditions.

And isn't talk of people being 'richer' another potential category error? Yes, there are plenty of people in the world caused great suffering because of material poverty and disease, but are there not lots of people living simple but contented lives, who would barely register on any $ measurement of their life?


Can we meaningfully compare a depressed wage slave in Slough to somebody happily subsistence farming in Bongo-Bongo Land?

"Stop adding up the wealth of the poor" Felix Salmon nails the stupidity. http://t.co/JMWe3p6i13" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Just think how depressed he would be if he didn't have a job.

[Prufrock]

But the bolded bit suggests you think that a system that leads to 85 people being richer than half the world is a good and fair one. So what is the justification for it, in your eyes?

Given the current state of 'global' governance, does it make sense to talk of a 'system'? Isn't this a bit like discussing whether it's a good thing that 70% of the Earth's surface is water when so many live in cramped conditions.

And isn't talk of people being 'richer' another potential category error? Yes, there are plenty of people in the world caused great suffering because of material poverty and disease, but are there not lots of people living simple but contented lives, who would barely register on any $ measurement of their life?

Can we meaningfully compare a depressed wage slave in Slough to somebody happily subsistence farming in Bongo-Bongo Land?

"Stop adding up the wealth of the poor" Felix Salmon nails the stupidity. http://t.co/JMWe3p6i13" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's a good article on why the figure is wrong. I'm not sure it's a particularly convincing idea against the idea of adding up the wealth of the poor though, beyond 'they didn't manage it this time/it's really hard to do'.

The actual idea of adding it up and comparing still seems legit to me. 'The top 85 richest people have $1.7tr!!!!!' isn't as powerful as 'The top 85 richest people in the world have $1.7tr which is the same combined wealth as [massive number of people] who make up [large proportion of the world's population]'.

There's still no doubt that there are a f*ck load of people who don't 'have' $1.7tr' between them. It's just really difficult (maybe impossible - what does 'have' mean?) to put a number on it.

[Harry Genshaw]

Went to Middlebrook today against my better judgment as it's always heaving there on a Sunday. We'd seen a dining table we wanted on Wednesday and had gone back to buy it today. In the intervening 3 days the feckin price had gone up by £100 and they weren't for budging.

Needless to say I'll be waiting for the sales at Easter when it will probably be back at Wednesdays price

[bwfcdan94]

Went to Middlebrook today against my better judgment as it's always heaving there on a Sunday. We'd seen a dining table we wanted on Wednesday and had gone back to buy it today. In the intervening 3 days the feckin price had gone up by £100 and they weren't for budging.

Needless to say I'll be waiting for the sales at Easter when it will probably be back at Wednesdays price

They obviously saw you looking at it.

[bobo the clown]

Went to Middlebrook today against my better judgment as it's always heaving there on a Sunday. We'd seen a dining table we wanted on Wednesday and had gone back to buy it today. In the intervening 3 days the feckin price had gone up by £100 and they weren't for budging.

Needless to say I'll be waiting for the sales at Easter when it will probably be back at Wednesdays price

If it'd a chain ... & the shopping 'malls' normally are, they usually have little room for manoeuvre .... it may even be the place they are using as a particular price window so they can later drop it and claim the reduced price is a genuine saving.

[Bruce Rioja]

I'm offering five internet pounds at 2-1 that Pistorious gets off with it, er, is found not guilty.

I see that Zebedee's turning on the waterworks again.

Mrs Steenkamp's clearly having none of it, mind. Crikey.

[BWFC_Insane]

I mean feck the fact he shot someone.

He takes in abandoned animals. So that is all ok......

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

It's a good article on why the figure is wrong. I'm not sure it's a particularly convincing idea against the idea of adding up the wealth of the poor though, beyond 'they didn't manage it this time/it's really hard to do'.

The actual idea of adding it up and comparing still seems legit to me. 'The top 85 richest people have $1.7tr!!!!!' isn't as powerful as 'The top 85 richest people in the world have $1.7tr which is the same combined wealth as [massive number of people] who make up [large proportion of the world's population]'.

There's still no doubt that there are a f*ck load of people who don't 'have' $1.7tr' between them. It's just really difficult (maybe impossible - what does 'have' mean?) to put a number on it.

I disagree.

The nonsense of saying that a a very indebted, perhaps even totally insolvent, banker in New York is a lot worse off than someone with no possessions (but no liabilities) in sub-Saharan Africa is a good hypothetical example that focuses the mind on the folly of searching for and comparing these 'numbers'.