The Great Art Debate
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Never seen it in color before. How about his Philosophy?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I'm amazed that you should need to ask...mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: That's exciting really - I wonder what other early colour photographs we have of 'lost' masterpieces.
this for instance (Klimt's Medicine)
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I've only ever see black and white photos of Philosophie. I've no idea whether it was ever photographed in colour.
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What do we think - bit of a botched job?
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news-an ... it-gallery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm interested to see her, Leonardo style, emerging from a solid dark background.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_with_an_Ermine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But those Renaissance portraits did then spotlight the figure and make them much brighter. I'm not sure the gloom does the Duchess any favours.
Actually, painting Kate grappling with ermine might have been a witty royal reference...
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news-an ... it-gallery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm interested to see her, Leonardo style, emerging from a solid dark background.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_with_an_Ermine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But those Renaissance portraits did then spotlight the figure and make them much brighter. I'm not sure the gloom does the Duchess any favours.
Actually, painting Kate grappling with ermine might have been a witty royal reference...
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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:What do we think - bit of a botched job?
http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/news-an ... it-gallery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm interested to see her, Leonardo style, emerging from a solid dark background.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_with_an_Ermine" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But those Renaissance portraits did then spotlight the figure and make them much brighter. I'm not sure the gloom does the Duchess any favours.
Actually, painting Kate grappling with ermine might have been a witty royal reference...
blimey - it makes her look 40-odd at least.... is she ready for this???
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Doing a bit more digging into this, and it would seem that there is at least a half-tone photo...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I've only ever see black and white photos of Philosophie. I've no idea whether it was ever photographed in colour.

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if you could select an artist much further away from Mondrian - it's be Courbet!! in-yer-face realist and bugger all the arty-farty romanticism and poncy classical references... I like it - though the impact of painting real life on today's eyes is perhaps not as shocking as it was back then..mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:https://www.artfinder.com/story/gustave ... kers-1849/
Today's Artfinder image of the day. I doubt we'll have a Mondrianesque row over it. Make of that what you will.
the subject matter and intention (though they are not realist painters like him) reminds me of Picasso's potato pickers and Van Gogh's potato eaters...
I suspect Courbet's "origin of the World" would still make some spit out their tea....
(NSFW - even though it is a painting - to a casual office passerby it might look like a photo...)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m41if ... o1_500.jpg
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Perhaps Lucian Freud wasn't so groundbreaking, after all:


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Duly 'spat out tea'!thebish wrote:if you could select an artist much further away from Mondrian - it's be Courbet!! in-yer-face realist and bugger all the arty-farty romanticism and poncy classical references... I like it - though the impact of painting real life on today's eyes is perhaps not as shocking as it was back then..mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:https://www.artfinder.com/story/gustave ... kers-1849/
Today's Artfinder image of the day. I doubt we'll have a Mondrianesque row over it. Make of that what you will.
I suspect his "origin of the World" would still make some spit out their tea....
(NSFW - even though it is a painting - to a casual office passerby it might look like a photo...)
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m41if ... o1_500.jpg
You nice person - geddit?

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I've alwasy been repulsed by Lucien Freud's work... hideous!!
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Nice one. It's a fantastic painting.Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Doing a bit more digging into this, and it would seem that there is at least a half-tone photo...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I've only ever see black and white photos of Philosophie. I've no idea whether it was ever photographed in colour.
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Perhaps not by painting an explicit nude - but by painting so many of them!mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Perhaps Lucian Freud wasn't so groundbreaking, after all:
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y'see - I get that Freud was a warts 'n all painter... but that foot looks gangrenous at best!!
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I'm guessing she is supposed to be flushed after the activity that has just taken place...CrazyHorse wrote:WTF is up with her face?
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Ah, I see.
I guess that activity must've involved someone throwing scalding water on her face. Kinky.
I guess that activity must've involved someone throwing scalding water on her face. Kinky.
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I think also turmeric, paprika and saffron powder must have been involved somehow...CrazyHorse wrote:Ah, I see.
I guess that activity must've involved someone throwing scalding water on her face. Kinky.
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I think this woman took part in a similar but different activity, mainly to do with gags and oxygen deprivation...


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[quote="thebishif you could select an artist much further away from Mondrian - it's be Courbet!! in-yer-face realist and bugger all the arty-farty romanticism and poncy classical references... I like it - though the impact of painting real life on today's eyes is perhaps not as shocking as it was back then..
the subject matter and intention (though they are not realist painters like him) reminds me of Picasso's potato pickers and Van Gogh's potato eaters...[/quote]
I once owned prints of Millet's "The Gleaners" and "Angelus" given to me by an old chap who thought they were paintings. Both represented the working classes and were actually pretty common in people's living rooms way back (along with Landseer's "Monarch of the Glenn" and Yeames's "When did you last see your father?" )
the subject matter and intention (though they are not realist painters like him) reminds me of Picasso's potato pickers and Van Gogh's potato eaters...[/quote]
I once owned prints of Millet's "The Gleaners" and "Angelus" given to me by an old chap who thought they were paintings. Both represented the working classes and were actually pretty common in people's living rooms way back (along with Landseer's "Monarch of the Glenn" and Yeames's "When did you last see your father?" )
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Just a point of interest, the Le Nain brothers were depicting the poorer classes way back in the 1640's. Two examples:

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I'm ver ver ver very disappointed... I throw in a Tretchikoff (
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