What are you reading tonight?

[TANGODANCER]

Bit late I know but try Skallagrigg by William Horwood, very touching, moving and intelligently written (well as far as I am concerned) - Its a novel about a 16 year old girl with cerebral palsy and her search for the mythical Skallagrigg - Horwoods daugher suffers from CP and its not in such a fantasy novel more one about families, detective work, treatment of the disabled and life in general, I keep lending it out and not getting it back and having to buy it again....in fact I need to do it again now One of the rare books that actually made me get a tear in my eye

Not totally relevent,but have you read Stephen Donaldson's "Chronicles of Thomas Covenant". Pure fiction but three great novels based around a guy with leprosy.

Now nine books TD

First and Second Chronicles (both trilogies)

There are three further books the third of which is due out shortly.

Fantastic stuff, but hard work in parts. Covenant is the true anti-hero. A Leper, rapist and sociopath, but you can't help wanting him to succeed ultimately.


Donaldson's also written a series of books called 'The Gap Series'

It's Isaac Asimov meets Terry Nation. Also worth a read.

Must confess I haven't heard of the later series GtE. I think somebody mentioned the Gap books before. I'll look out for them. Cheers.

[Lofthouse Lower]

Just bought 'United We Fall' by Peter Ridsdale for a penny from Amazon

[Annoyed Grunt]

Last of the big spenders.

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Reading Sugars book

Could take a few more weeks yet

[Harry Genshaw]

Reading Sugars book

Could take a few more weeks yet

Managed to finish that but he really is up his own arse

[CAPSLOCK]

Just into computers

To be honest, he's every reason to be pleased with himself but it is one big love in

[Bruce Rioja]

Reading Sugars book

Could take a few more weeks yet

Managed to finish that but he really is up his own arse

A mate of mine is going out with Sugar's ex D-I-L. Her kids, his grandkids, have to address him as Sir Alan (Nae shite).

[Harry Genshaw]

Reading Sugars book

Could take a few more weeks yet

Managed to finish that but he really is up his own arse

A mate of mine is going out with Sugar's ex D-I-L. Her kids, his grandkids, have to address him as Sir Alan (Nae shite).

Having read his book I shouldn't be surprised but

[Lord Kangana]

Reading Sugars book

Could take a few more weeks yet

Managed to finish that but he really is up his own arse

A mate of mine is going out with Sugar's ex D-I-L. Her kids, his grandkids, have to address him as Sir Alan (Nae shite).

Lord, surely?

Anhow, it pisses me off that he's put forward as an example to business people in this country, when he's exactly the type of primitive throwback that holds business in this country back. He's an uber spiv, he brings nothing to the table other than a barrer boys instinct for turning a few quid.

[Bruce Rioja]

Lord, surely?

I mentioned same, but apparently there's comfort in addressing your Grandad as Sir Alan.

[Lord Kangana]

If thats true, that is twatishness above and beyond the call of duty.

[Bruce Rioja]

I shite you not. Seriously. Thing is - she's lovely.

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he's exactly the type of primitive throwback that holds business in this country back. He's an uber spiv, he brings nothing to the table other than a barrer boys instinct for turning a few quid.

See, that's largely (wholly) bollocks, imo

How does he 'hold business back'

Trust me, I want to detest him, so go ahead

[Worthy4England]

he's exactly the type of primitive throwback that holds business in this country back. He's an uber spiv, he brings nothing to the table other than a barrer boys instinct for turning a few quid.

See, that's largely (wholly) bollocks, imo

How does he 'hold business back'

Trust me, I want to detest him, so go ahead

He can't cook?

[CAPSLOCK]

To be honest, he probably reckons to be brilliant at that, too

[Lord Kangana]

He hasn't actually generated new money for years. He's essentially just managed to retain the fortune he aquired in the eighties. Even he accepts he's a one-trick pony, I've heard him say it himself.

And the problem with encouraging the middle-man-only style of business, is that once the Far East cottoned on (and they did) they realised they didn't need someone like Sugar, as they'd had the brains in the first place to come up with the idea and keep the money for themselves. It encourages people to think that having no real knowledge of your product isn't an impedement, whereas in actual fact, in economies that have performed better than ours (Germany,say) its the opposite.

[Worthy4England]

He's managed to generate more than me. How about you?

[Lord Kangana]

Absolutely pointless replying to that.

[Worthy4England]

Carry on Cooking.

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But

He was bright enough to see the opportunities in the 60s, 70s and early 80s

Sugar knew that middle man/importer wasn't enough (not least cos it eroded his margins) and he had his own manufacturing facility - mainly assembly, admittedly, but he did design stuff

The fact that the far east could do it cheaper by paying a bowl of rice a month to their staff is something he couldn't change

Maybe its cos I've never had and never will have the bollocks to go out on my own like him, I do have a grudging admiration for him

I can see that he's been able to achieve 'success' partly on the back of the others, but he identified and exploited the markets