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Post by Il Pirate » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:01 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:I'm sorry to say this jimbo, but I'm afraid you are up against an immovable ideology. You and your colleagues leaving is something they'll either not give a shit about, or frankly be happy about.

We are in the early death throes of the NHS. Of course, no government wants it on their CV, so they'll make it look like it's f*cked itself. And they're doing a pretty good stitch up job.


Which is the same as they've done with the fire service, police service, probation service and prison service. But now I see Cameron is ready to don his armour, mount his white horse and ride to the rescue of the prison service. What an utter cnut. The tories seem to think they can ruin everything and hope Joe public either doesn't notice or are past caring. They can 'reform' whatever they've been unable to sell off to the highest bidder, after spending years neglecting and running said service / institution into the ground. The NHS is the only public body left that the ordinary people of this country have a vested interest in. We are (Unless hugely privileged), all born into it. We have an investment in it from our first breath. The tories hate that fact. They want to break that connection between the public and our care service at any cost. The general public (particularly outside the north of England), didn't care much about the miner's plight and closure of pits under Thatcher. The public, wrongly in my opinion, don't care much about the loss of our steel industry and thousands of jobs with it. It's all happened too often, like Bolton losing away; you get used to it. But now they've picked a fight with the children of middle England. The offspring of (usually, but I can't help but stereotype in the main here), an educated middle class. In short people who not only can make their voices heard but are listened to when they speak. Middle England doesn't like what it's hearing, and if the tories want to take them on, they will receive a broken and bloody nose. I just hope there's enough staff on call when they arrive at A&E to have it fixed.

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:05 pm

Il Pirate wrote: Which is the same as they've done with the fire service, police service, probation service and prison service.
As proven where, exactly? :conf:
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Post by thebish » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:08 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Il Pirate wrote: Which is the same as they've done with the fire service, police service, probation service and prison service.
As proven where, exactly? :conf:
This govt is a pretty naked ideological struggle for a smaller state under the quite good wool-over-the-eyes austerity myth...

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Hoboh » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:18 pm

thebish wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Il Pirate wrote: Which is the same as they've done with the fire service, police service, probation service and prison service.
As proven where, exactly? :conf:
This govt is a pretty naked ideological struggle for a smaller state under the quite good wool-over-the-eyes austerity myth...
Fcuk! I hope they put some clothes on soon, Cameron with the pig was in the same sick league as Corbyn and Jabbott the hut!

Wool over eyes?

If you fail to see what the Tory's, rightly or wrongly are up to you should visit spec savers.

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:22 pm

Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Il Pirate wrote: Which is the same as they've done with the fire service, police service, probation service and prison service.
As proven where, exactly? :conf:
This govt is a pretty naked ideological struggle for a smaller state under the quite good wool-over-the-eyes austerity myth...
Fcuk! I hope they put some clothes on soon, Cameron with the pig was in the same sick league as Corbyn and Jabbott the hut!

Wool over eyes?

If you fail to see what the Tory's, rightly or wrongly are up to you should visit spec savers.
We should get Angela to pass a European Law to stop them!!! :pissed: :lol:

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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Hoboh » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:31 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
thebish wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Il Pirate wrote: Which is the same as they've done with the fire service, police service, probation service and prison service.
As proven where, exactly? :conf:
This govt is a pretty naked ideological struggle for a smaller state under the quite good wool-over-the-eyes austerity myth...
Fcuk! I hope they put some clothes on soon, Cameron with the pig was in the same sick league as Corbyn and Jabbott the hut!

Wool over eyes?

If you fail to see what the Tory's, rightly or wrongly are up to you should visit spec savers.
We should get Angela to pass a European Law to stop them!!! :pissed: :lol:
I am trying to stay off the subject the feral Federal United States of Europe until the start gun has been fired thank you.

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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:34 pm

What??!?!?!?!?!?!?!? When did that happen? I musta blinked.

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Post by Prufrock » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:39 pm

Hoboh wrote:I am trying to stay off the subject the feral Federal United States of Europe until the start gun has been fired thank you.
And very successful you've been too!
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.

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Post by Hoboh » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:44 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I am trying to stay off the subject the feral Federal United States of Europe until the start gun has been fired thank you.
And very successful you've been too!
I've been quite quiet the last day or so given all that's going on :conf:

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Post by Prufrock » Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:59 pm

What's been going on?

No one cares. In a few months time folk will start getting up for it, read a few leaflets, decide it's reet and if it ain't broke, and the finally Faridge can piss off.
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Re: Today I'm angry about.....

Post by Hoboh » Wed Feb 17, 2016 11:07 pm

Prufrock wrote:What's been going on?

No one cares. In a few months time folk will start getting up for it, read a few leaflets, decide it's reet and if it ain't broke, and the finally Faridge can piss off.
Ah! The stupidity naivety of youth :mrgreen:
What you going to do when your generation do their usual and feck off to Costa/Starbucks to bloat up instead of voting? :lol:

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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Feb 18, 2016 7:26 am

Hoboh wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I am trying to stay off the subject the feral Federal United States of Europe until the start gun has been fired thank you.
And very successful you've been too!
I've been quite quiet the last day or so given all that's going on :conf:
Why have you been quite quiet the last couple of days? It's not like sometime tomorrow or the day after when Serious Dave comes out to brief the nation you're going to carefully consider it, weigh both sides of the debate and then switch to "Done deal, I'm in!"...

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Feb 18, 2016 8:56 am

So not proven anywhere then!
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Post by Enoch » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:17 pm

Enoch wrote:Under this country's ‘deport first, appeal later’ policy a young man of 21 is to be deported on his release from prison. He was 16 when arrested and was convicted using the law of Joint enterprise under which a person in a group or gang can be held responsible for the criminal acts of others.
More saddened than angry.

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Post by Hoboh » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:47 pm

Enoch wrote:
Enoch wrote:Under this country's ‘deport first, appeal later’ policy a young man of 21 is to be deported on his release from prison. He was 16 when arrested and was convicted using the law of Joint enterprise under which a person in a group or gang can be held responsible for the criminal acts of others.
More saddened than angry.
Why?
Say a gang kicked someone to death why should it matter whose boot delivered the fatal blow?
All guilty, all should be shot, soon put the stops on these 'teen' hard men!

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Post by Hoboh » Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:50 pm

:mrgreen:
Worthy4England wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Hoboh wrote:I am trying to stay off the subject the feral Federal United States of Europe until the start gun has been fired thank you.
And very successful you've been too!
I've been quite quiet the last day or so given all that's going on :conf:
Why have you been quite quiet the last couple of days? It's not like sometime tomorrow or the day after when Serious Dave comes out to brief the nation you're going to carefully consider it, weigh both sides of the debate and then switch to "Done deal, I'm in!"...
Of course I'm going to consider it seriously and look for any gaffs and cock ups that can be exploited in my soon to become operative national comment accounts, might even revise my twitter account, got to get the message across UK, good EU, bad. :mrgreen:

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:01 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Enoch wrote:
Enoch wrote:Under this country's ‘deport first, appeal later’ policy a young man of 21 is to be deported on his release from prison. He was 16 when arrested and was convicted using the law of Joint enterprise under which a person in a group or gang can be held responsible for the criminal acts of others.
More saddened than angry.
Why?
Say a gang kicked someone to death why should it matter whose boot delivered the fatal blow?
All guilty, all should be shot, soon put the stops on these 'teen' hard men!
So, you're in a pub and your mate has a barney with some bloke. It kicks off, you've nowt to do with it, but the bloke falls and cracks his head and dies. Should you be convicted under joint enterprise just because you were there?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:06 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Enoch wrote:
Enoch wrote:Under this country's ‘deport first, appeal later’ policy a young man of 21 is to be deported on his release from prison. He was 16 when arrested and was convicted using the law of Joint enterprise under which a person in a group or gang can be held responsible for the criminal acts of others.
More saddened than angry.
Why?
Say a gang kicked someone to death why should it matter whose boot delivered the fatal blow?
All guilty, all should be shot, soon put the stops on these 'teen' hard men!
So, you're in a pub and your mate has a barney with some bloke. It kicks off, you've nowt to do with it, but the bloke falls and cracks his head and dies. Should you be convicted under joint enterprise just because you were there?
Why wait for conviction? He should just be shot immediately on the spot.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:09 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Why wait for conviction? He should just be shot immediately on the spot.
Bit harsh. Maybe we should send him somewhere. A refugee from injustice if you will :D

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Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:09 pm

I would have thought it was quite useful when dealing with organised crime though, no?
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