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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:45 am

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The easiest win would be to reduce legal immigration by setting the entry bar bery high. So why haven't they? Because in the main part it's people we need to do jobs we won't and shed loads of foreign investment from students paying more for UK courses than a UK resident pays and boosts the rental sector coz they need somewhere to live for 3/4 years.
We had something vaguely reminiscent of this years ago. I think we called it "apprenticeships". It was quite clever really; it enabled employers to pay you slave labour wages for five years plus attending day school one day and a night per week till you qualified for the going rate at 21 years old. You had to live with your parents because you couldn't afford anything else. Agh, those good old days.. :wink:

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The national minimum wage currently scales and also has an apprentice wage - it's still there, but now applies to all "jobs"...You don't get to the national minimum wage until 21. Those good old days are alive and well.

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm

Well that's me voted. Away on election day.

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

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You don't need to tell us about living with your parents because you couldn't afford an anything else.

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 pm

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Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Well that's me voted. Away on election day.
I always postal vote. Saves me getting off my arse. For what it is worth as the SNP are shoe in here...

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:56 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 pm
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Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Well that's me voted. Away on election day.
I always postal vote. Saves me getting off my arse. For what it is worth as the SNP are shoe in here...
Is it not 4 busses a couple of boats and a helicopter journey to your nearest polling station? :D

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Post by Hoboh » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:23 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:56 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Well that's me voted. Away on election day.
I always postal vote. Saves me getting off my arse. For what it is worth as the SNP are shoe in here...
Is it not 4 busses a couple of boats and a helicopter journey to your nearest polling station? :D
Not worth the trip.
The ballot boxes just get replaced by look a like ones full of votes for the bald headed slimeball who was deputy under Krankie yet claims no knowledge of the disappearing cash.

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:43 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:56 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Well that's me voted. Away on election day.
I always postal vote. Saves me getting off my arse. For what it is worth as the SNP are shoe in here...
Is it not 4 busses a couple of boats and a helicopter journey to your nearest polling station? :D
I'll have you know I can get to Glasgow without changing buses direct from my village. No fecking way I would, but I could :D we have a bridge. The locals rebelled and it's now toll free :oyea:

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Hoboh » Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:45 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:43 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:56 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Well that's me voted. Away on election day.
I always postal vote. Saves me getting off my arse. For what it is worth as the SNP are shoe in here...
Is it not 4 busses a couple of boats and a helicopter journey to your nearest polling station? :D
I'll have you know I can get to Glasgow without changing buses direct from my village. No fecking way I would, but I could :D we have a bridge. The locals rebelled and it's now toll free :oyea:
Is it skye you're on AT?

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:00 am

Hoboh wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:45 am
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:43 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:56 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Well that's me voted. Away on election day.
I always postal vote. Saves me getting off my arse. For what it is worth as the SNP are shoe in here...
Is it not 4 busses a couple of boats and a helicopter journey to your nearest polling station? :D
I'll have you know I can get to Glasgow without changing buses direct from my village. No fecking way I would, but I could :D we have a bridge. The locals rebelled and it's now toll free :oyea:
Is it skye you're on AT?
Aye

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:07 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:23 pm

Not worth the trip.
The ballot boxes just get replaced by look a like ones full of votes for the bald headed slimeball who was deputy under Krankie yet claims no knowledge of the disappearing cash.
A relative rant to pass the no-football time:

When the main governing parties are so far removed in their views and aims, is it any wonder that there is no "Right and Proper and best for all" Party. Elections are supposedly there for decision based on attaining a result that the majority wish for. That, in itself is a joke given the diverse population factions within the country. When the new religion, "Who do I think I am?" is any sort of a factor, is it any wonder a result on who runs the country is as far away as never-never land? Back in our youth, my home town had a strong Catholic contingent of churches and chapels. Each Easter time and in may there were processions and Walks of music bands and devotion. The difference now in the Year of Our Lord 20214, is that the processions are no longer in celebration of God and The Blessed Virgin, but Rainbow celebrations in praise of the new "ME"..

Absolute power is the weapon of maniacs, so pray God we never attain it. Four years in more then long enough to prove any party wrong ; we've been at it a bit longer (a read of British Government history is far more frightening than Count Dracula ever was) but there is a strong case for tearing up the rule books and starting again. That said, who would decide what? Interestingly, the Monarch still holds the absolute power over all the governments. Step up then, Your Majesty King Charles and assert your authority. Give the House of Lords the Royal boot and show some authority.

The member from Farnworth willingly admits he's whistling in the dark and retires back to his breakfast. *halo*

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Hoboh » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:17 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:00 am
Hoboh wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:45 am
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:43 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:56 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:38 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:26 pm
Well that's me voted. Away on election day.
I always postal vote. Saves me getting off my arse. For what it is worth as the SNP are shoe in here...
Is it not 4 busses a couple of boats and a helicopter journey to your nearest polling station? :D
I'll have you know I can get to Glasgow without changing buses direct from my village. No fecking way I would, but I could :D we have a bridge. The locals rebelled and it's now toll free :oyea:
Is it skye you're on AT?
Aye
Cheeky question,
Do you know anything about the campsite at Broadford?

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:22 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:17 pm
Cheeky question,
Do you know anything about the campsite at Broadford?
Sorry, can't help. I'm in the north, so only ever pass through Broadford getting on or off the island. Are you visiting?

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:37 pm

Dunno where to start, TD, but I'll give it a go.

Both main parties are broadly right of centre with some pretty narrow divisions on main policy. A few more police between one and the other, a slightly different tax spread to try and appease their core base. etc. etc. I don't think elections have ever yet achieved a majority of the people eligible to vote but on a number of occasions achieved a majority of those who did vote - most time they don't. So the party in power typically has more people that didn't vote for it than did. Labour under Blair had some really low figures. The last election, the Tories got 14m votes out of 47m registered voters - so about 30% of all potential voters gave them assent - same sort of figure as Blair in 1997. It's a nonsense of a voting system when most votes are not represented.

I don't get the introduction of Catholicism into the conversation - you are still at liberty to have your processions as you see fit. I doubt you're going to convince most, anytime soon.

The monarch has no power whatsoever in practice, should they try and exert any, they will probably get deposed.

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:16 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:37 pm
Dunno where to start, TD, but I'll give it a go.

Both main parties are broadly right of centre with some pretty narrow divisions on main policy. A few more police between one and the other, a slightly different tax spread to try and appease their core base. etc. etc. I don't think elections have ever yet achieved a majority of the people eligible to vote but on a number of occasions achieved a majority of those who did vote - most time they don't. So the party in power typically has more people that didn't vote for it than did. Labour under Blair had some really low figures. The last election, the Tories got 14m votes out of 47m registered voters - so about 30% of all potential voters gave them assent - same sort of figure as Blair in 1997. It's a nonsense of a voting system when most votes are not represented.

I don't get the introduction of Catholicism into the conversation - you are still at liberty to have your processions as you see fit. I doubt you're going to convince most, anytime soon.

The monarch has no power whatsoever in practice, should they try and exert any, they will probably get deposed.
Main points accepted unargued. I bow to your political knowledge. I suppose the rule that a Catholic is excluded from ever becoming a monarch in English law might be a tangential argument, power-wise, but its relevance is lost in our sceptred Isle jig-saw puzzle. . My point of celebrations was simply one is Spiritual, the other merely physical. I accept, of little relevance again to most. Apologies for wandering off topic. :oops:
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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:29 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:16 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:37 pm
Dunno where to start, TD, but I'll give it a go.

Both main parties are broadly right of centre with some pretty narrow divisions on main policy. A few more police between one and the other, a slightly different tax spread to try and appease their core base. etc. etc. I don't think elections have ever yet achieved a majority of the people eligible to vote but on a number of occasions achieved a majority of those who did vote - most time they don't. So the party in power typically has more people that didn't vote for it than did. Labour under Blair had some really low figures. The last election, the Tories got 14m votes out of 47m registered voters - so about 30% of all potential voters gave them assent - same sort of figure as Blair in 1997. It's a nonsense of a voting system when most votes are not represented.

I don't get the introduction of Catholicism into the conversation - you are still at liberty to have your processions as you see fit. I doubt you're going to convince most, anytime soon.

The monarch has no power whatsoever in practice, should they try and exert any, they will probably get deposed.
Main points accepted unargued. I bow to your political knowledge. I suppose the rule that a Catholic is excluded from ever becoming a monarch in English law might be a tangential argument, power-wise, but its relevance is lost in our sceptred Isle jig-saw puzzle. . My point of celebrations was simply one is Spiritual, the other merely physical. I accept, of little relevance again to most. Apologies for wandering off topic. :oops:
Don't worry TD. The only reason we can't have a Catholic monarch, is because a non-Catholic monarch took the prize through force of arms. We could always have a re-run!

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Or better yet, get rid of the monarchy altogether

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Or better yet, get rid of the monarchy altogether
As I've become older, I wouldn't want a fcking President either. I'll do it. :D

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

Post by Hoboh » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:14 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:22 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:17 pm
Cheeky question,
Do you know anything about the campsite at Broadford?
Sorry, can't help. I'm in the north, so only ever pass through Broadford getting on or off the island. Are you visiting?
Possibly in September, planning 5 or 6 nights on the West side, Skye then big sands then over to Dornoch for 4 nights.

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Worthy4England wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:54 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 2:31 pm
Or better yet, get rid of the monarchy altogether
As I've become older, I wouldn't want a fcking President either. I'll do it. :D
Neither would I, but I definitely don't want an over privileged born in to it prick either. I'd at least like the illusion of having a say.

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Re: 2024, hoodwink and bamboozle the public

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Hoboh wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:14 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:22 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:17 pm
Cheeky question,
Do you know anything about the campsite at Broadford?
Sorry, can't help. I'm in the north, so only ever pass through Broadford getting on or off the island. Are you visiting?
Possibly in September, planning 5 or 6 nights on the West side, Skye then big sands then over to Dornoch for 4 nights.
Hope the weather improves for you. Its been that wet this year I'm in danger of growing webbed feet!

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