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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by jaffka » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:04 pm

We have gone from looking at winning it to saving it and are now in the hanging in their.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:06 pm

Glad to see the run chase is going well.

Bowlers are the ones that really let this slip though. Anything over 200 batting last on this was going to be very tough.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:23 pm

52-4 and not looking to er, healthy right now. A hero or two needed methinks?
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:30 pm

Fish in a barrel comes to mind right now. Cringe-worthy stuff from our super-stars. 57-5, dear oh dear....
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by jaffka » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:31 pm

Well short for five.

Needs a monumental effort to avoid defeat.

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:37 pm

jaffka wrote:Well short for five.

Needs a monumental effort to avoid defeat.
Is that how you spell miracle?
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by jaffka » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:40 pm

Massive ask but it's not over yet.

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Post by thebish » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:52 pm

well - that all turned out worse than expected!

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:16 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: A year or so ago nobody could get him out, so I'm not entirely sure he'd be totally discarded quite that quickly. It is fair to say he isn't on any sort of form, but he's probably done enough to warrant some patience. As a batsman at least.
Absolutely. A goodun doesn't simply become a baddun overnight without a marked change of circumstance. We've seen many times before that being awarded the captaincy has had a terrible effect on that man's level of performance. What I'm saying is that if we were to relieve him of the captaincy then maybe we'd get the batter back. His two dismissals in this second test have been nothing short of embarrassing for any batsman, let alone one of Cook's previous standing.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by thebish » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:37 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: A year or so ago nobody could get him out, so I'm not entirely sure he'd be totally discarded quite that quickly. It is fair to say he isn't on any sort of form, but he's probably done enough to warrant some patience. As a batsman at least.
Absolutely. A goodun doesn't simply become a baddun overnight without a marked change of circumstance. We've seen many times before that being awarded the captaincy has had a terrible effect on that man's level of performance. What I'm saying is that if we were to relieve him of the captaincy then maybe we'd get the batter back. His two dismissals in this second test have been nothing short of embarrassing for any batsman, let alone one of Cook's previous standing.
difficult to say... relieving him of the captaincy would be a HUGE gesture - and it's quite hard to go from being captain to not being captain - especially as there isn't a really obviously better prospect screaming to be promoted...

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by LeverEnd » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:45 pm

It would end up being Broad. No thanks.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:46 pm

thebish wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: A year or so ago nobody could get him out, so I'm not entirely sure he'd be totally discarded quite that quickly. It is fair to say he isn't on any sort of form, but he's probably done enough to warrant some patience. As a batsman at least.
Absolutely. A goodun doesn't simply become a baddun overnight without a marked change of circumstance. We've seen many times before that being awarded the captaincy has had a terrible effect on that man's level of performance. What I'm saying is that if we were to relieve him of the captaincy then maybe we'd get the batter back. His two dismissals in this second test have been nothing short of embarrassing for any batsman, let alone one of Cook's previous standing.
difficult to say... relieving him of the captaincy would be a HUGE gesture - and it's quite hard to go from being captain to not being captain - especially as there isn't a really obviously better prospect screaming to be promoted...
But what is there to lose?
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by thebish » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:58 pm

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thebish wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: A year or so ago nobody could get him out, so I'm not entirely sure he'd be totally discarded quite that quickly. It is fair to say he isn't on any sort of form, but he's probably done enough to warrant some patience. As a batsman at least.
Absolutely. A goodun doesn't simply become a baddun overnight without a marked change of circumstance. We've seen many times before that being awarded the captaincy has had a terrible effect on that man's level of performance. What I'm saying is that if we were to relieve him of the captaincy then maybe we'd get the batter back. His two dismissals in this second test have been nothing short of embarrassing for any batsman, let alone one of Cook's previous standing.
difficult to say... relieving him of the captaincy would be a HUGE gesture - and it's quite hard to go from being captain to not being captain - especially as there isn't a really obviously better prospect screaming to be promoted...
But what is there to lose?
it's just I remember the whole botched Pietersen captaincy fiasco and how much unrest that caused... I think it's a big risk and probably a bit of a knee-jerk reaction to take such a huge step and appoint (broad??) as captain when there isn't anything to suggest he'd do a better job and isn't exactly performing that well recently without the added burden...

I think the management team is looking for stability in order to rebuild with a young and inexperienced side... sacking cook would (I think) be a huge risk to that. if they were gonna sack cook - the time to do it was after the ashes debacle - not to wait a year having started the rebuild...

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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Little Green Man » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:04 pm

Jayawardene's thoughts on the England side were rather disparaging. I get the feeling there's a bit of bad blood.
England were quite chirpy this morning, but they quietened up after the first hour.

They got quite a bit from us this afternoon when they came to bat and they will get some more in the morning.

We've seen that, under pressure, they are not quite up to it.

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Post by thebish » Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:09 pm

Little Green Man wrote:Jayawardene's thoughts on the England side were rather disparaging. I get the feeling there's a bit of bad blood.
England were quite chirpy this morning, but they quietened up after the first hour.

They got quite a bit from us this afternoon when they came to bat and they will get some more in the morning.

We've seen that, under pressure, they are not quite up to it.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:48 am

I bet they take our last wicket today by whipping the non-striking batsman's bails off, the tinkers!
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:51 am

Sounds like Moeen's thought - feck it, I'm having a knock. Anyone watching?
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:20 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Sounds like Moeen's thought - feck it, I'm having a knock. Anyone watching?
Just come in hoping to see some good news. Not much of it, but it hasn't got worse so far. In with a chance of holding on for the draw, winning looking to have disappeared with the sunshine. We can but hope....
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:28 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Sounds like Moeen's thought - feck it, I'm having a knock. Anyone watching?
Just come in hoping to see some good news. Not much of it, but it hasn't got worse so far. In with a chance of holding on for the draw, winning looking to have disappeared with the sunshine. We can but hope....
Play set to resume in two mins it says here.
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Re: creeeeeeeekeeeeeet

Post by thebish » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:44 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:Sounds like Moeen's thought - feck it, I'm having a knock. Anyone watching?
Just come in hoping to see some good news. Not much of it, but it hasn't got worse so far. In with a chance of holding on for the draw, winning looking to have disappeared with the sunshine. We can but hope....
Play set to resume in two mins it says here.
not lost many (if any) overs yet...

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