The Politics Thread

[Prufrock]

She hasn't, it's how Downing Street write letters, you put the name of who it's to at the bottom.

There aren't many opportunities to praise Truss atm so I'm going to take the chance to say she has at least written a letter properly

An absolute farce.

[BWFC_Insane]

She hasn't, it's how Downing Street write letters, you put the name of who it's to at the bottom.

There aren't many opportunities to praise Truss atm so I'm going to take the chance to say she has at least written a letter properly

An absolute farce.

Well you learn something new every day…..

Imagine writing a letter to someone you have sacked thanking them for their brave decision.

[BWFC_Insane]

Ed Milliband wins some sort of Twitter award for this.

https://twitter.com/ed_miliband/status/ ... G4zYnYJ7zg

[Hoboh]

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse Truss hits the UK with Trident missiles, Cnut! I mean Cnut! What next the return of nice person Hancock?
Just go Truss you little clueless wooden puppet.

[Worthy4England]

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse Truss hits the UK with Trident missiles, Cnut! I mean Cnut! What next the return of nice person Hancock?
Just go Truss you little clueless wooden puppet.

On some things. Occasionally. We agree!

What an absolute farce - did I dream the last three weeks where she'd been supporting the "plan for growth," talking daily with her Chancellor they were joined at the hip with - she needs to fcuk off preferably before I go to the pub.

[Bruce Rioja]

We are the laughing stock of the world. How on earth has it come to this mess?

And having made such a mess and completely lost control there is now no absolutely no justification to not call an immediate general election.

That's not going to happen and the 1922 will usurp this farcical members' vote and have Sunak in before Christmas.

Sportsman's bet?

[BWFC_Insane]

We are the laughing stock of the world. How on earth has it come to this mess?

And having made such a mess and completely lost control [/b] there is now no absolutely no justification to not call an immediate general election. [/b]

That's not going to happen and the 1922 will usurp this farcical members' vote and have Sunak in before Christmas.

Sportsman's bet?

I don’t doubt it but this is a great nation and not a test tube for the Tory party to play with and their behaviour is treating the U.K. like we belong to them and not the other way round.

Every single decent person knows we need a general election. I know of Tories who will argue they need a period in opposition to sort out the mess that is their party. They absolutely shouldn’t be in power now and everyone knows it.

Another chancellor, another PM it’s a continuing horror train wreck and it just has to stop. They had a roll of the dice. One they were lucky to have. They absolutely having wrecked the economy shouldn’t be able to have another one.

Voters need their say now.

[TANGODANCER]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

[Worthy4England]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

You could always try another party and see what happens.

[TANGODANCER]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

You could always try another party and see what happens.

Let's say I was looking for a little enlightenment rather than a smug answer. We've tried the other party oft enough. Everybody knows what's wrong, who knows what's right? For years I thought Labour was the answer; My father was a full time soldier with an Irish Labourer's background, and my mother a mill girl, so no garden parties for me, but when Labour failed, what then? There are only really two parties strong enough and here we are still in nowhere land. The question was genuine enough.

[BWFC_Insane]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

You could always try another party and see what happens.

Let's say I was looking for a little enlightenment rather than a smug answer. We've tried the other party oft enough. Everybody knows what's wrong, who knows what's right? For years I thought Labour was the answer; My father was a full time soldier with an Irish Labourer's background, and my mother a mill girl, so no garden parties for me, but when Labour failed, what then? There are only really two parties strong enough and here we are still in nowhere land. The question was genuine enough.

Nobody is going to run the country forever. Events happen. Governments get tired. Labour left the economy growing. The nhs was in its best state ever. We had endured a global banking crisis but they had steadied the ship and the economy was recovering. What’s happened since has been disastrous.

But labour were tired in 2010 and it was right to see if a change could improve things. It hasn’t. And things are far far worse now than they’ve been since immediate post war times.

[Hoboh]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

You could always try another party and see what happens.

Let's say I was looking for a little enlightenment rather than a smug answer. We've tried the other party oft enough. Everybody knows what's wrong, who knows what's right? For years I thought Labour was the answer; My father was a full time soldier with an Irish Labourer's background, and my mother a mill girl, so no garden parties for me, but when Labour failed, what then? There are only really two parties strong enough and here we are still in nowhere land. The question was genuine enough.

Nobody is going to run the country forever. Events happen. Governments get tired. Labour left the economy growing. The nhs was in its best state ever. We had endured a global banking crisis but they had steadied the ship and the economy was recovering. What’s happened since has been disastrous.

But labour were tired in 2010 and it was right to see if a change could improve things. It hasn’t. And things are far far worse now than they’ve been since immediate post war times.

I doubt any party will 'fix' the UK now there will always be turmoil it's the way of the modern world.
Seriously, think about it, would you want the top job at the moment?
If we had a GE do you really think all the problems would just go away?
Things IMHO are going to get a whole lot worse yet and in my lifetime I have never seen the prospect for yet another war so real.

[Prufrock]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

You could always try another party and see what happens.

Let's say I was looking for a little enlightenment rather than a smug answer. We've tried the other party oft enough. Everybody knows what's wrong, who knows what's right? For years I thought Labour was the answer; My father was a full time soldier with an Irish Labourer's background, and my mother a mill girl, so no garden parties for me, but when Labour failed, what then? There are only really two parties strong enough and here we are still in nowhere land. The question was genuine enough.

There's politicians are all bad...and then there's this shower. It's been 12 years. Pretty clearly time for a change.

[BWFC_Insane]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

You could always try another party and see what happens.

Let's say I was looking for a little enlightenment rather than a smug answer. We've tried the other party oft enough. Everybody knows what's wrong, who knows what's right? For years I thought Labour was the answer; My father was a full time soldier with an Irish Labourer's background, and my mother a mill girl, so no garden parties for me, but when Labour failed, what then? There are only really two parties strong enough and here we are still in nowhere land. The question was genuine enough.

Nobody is going to run the country forever. Events happen. Governments get tired. Labour left the economy growing. The nhs was in its best state ever. We had endured a global banking crisis but they had steadied the ship and the economy was recovering. What’s happened since has been disastrous.

But labour were tired in 2010 and it was right to see if a change could improve things. It hasn’t. And things are far far worse now than they’ve been since immediate post war times.

I doubt any party will 'fix' the UK now there will always be turmoil it's the way of the modern world.
Seriously, think about it, would you want the top job at the moment?
If we had a GE do you really think all the problems would just go away?
Things IMHO are going to get a whole lot worse yet and in my lifetime I have never seen the prospect for yet another war so real.

The problems won’t all go. But it’s about some trust and responsibility and decency. Plus some fresh ideas and frankly someone who is trustworthy and competent.

No party should run the country for ever. This lot have definitely run out of road and it’s a disgrace what is happening.

[Bruce Rioja]

Priorities all in good order.

Jake Berry's getting a knighthood

[TANGODANCER]

There are so many issues, where do you start? Supermarket shelves are sparsely stocked yet prices rise weekly, energy costs are crippling everyone, strikes abound because the cost of living continues to rise weekly. Shopping my wife does online and a once a week visit to a supermarket which, at our ages and without a car means taxis which are ever on the rise. It's a bloody nightmare. Despite all, we live in a great country; It's just the clowns running it that are the problem. They break their necks to get in positions of power, then he carousel starts up again. Fourth Chancellor of the Exchequer in three months, we're a joke. it has to stabilise soon or.....

[Worthy4England]

Voters need their say now.

Okay, who do we vote for who won't be yet another punch and judy show?

You could always try another party and see what happens.

Let's say I was looking for a little enlightenment rather than a smug answer. We've tried the other party oft enough. Everybody knows what's wrong, who knows what's right? For years I thought Labour was the answer; My father was a full time soldier with an Irish Labourer's background, and my mother a mill girl, so no garden parties for me, but when Labour failed, what then? There are only really two parties strong enough and here we are still in nowhere land. The question was genuine enough.

It was a genuine albeit brief answer. If you view it as "both as bad as each other", then the equation has to be who's least bad, rather than the rhetorical "who has all the right answers" because I think we would all broadly agree the response is "none of them" All parties will release a manifesto before an election. Like everyone we can only judge based on what's on offer.

We won't get everything we want off any of them and none will deliver everything they promised. In part because we all want different things. So we know there isn't a universally correct answer, which will pretty much always leaves a who's likely to fcuk it up slightly less.

Some responses clearly look "wrong" either short term or on timing. Even eejets like me could see a huge tax giveaway with the debt/economy in its current state was likely to cause turmoil. The bloke she's just beat told her plenty of times, too. The cock ups we've recently seen have been very wrong as evidenced by all the u-turns and turmoil.

There is absolutely a case for "a new lot might be better than the current lot" without anyone thinking either lot has sll the right answers.

[Hoboh]

As I see it the UK will turn in the next decade or so into a third world country no matter who gets in power.

It was always those at the bottom who suffered with employment, housing, health issues and finance now it's slowly hitting those in the middle, the warning signs are all there, the reasonable times are over. The cuts and austerity that will come will hit everyone, services will decline and nothing will change for the better the UK is not the same place as it was in my youth nor never will be again. Those in any position and a bit of sense should get out and give their kids at least a fighting chance in life, I'm too old now but should have gone fifteen years ago and curse sentimentality about being a proud of my country Brit.

Ah well never mind!

[Worthy4England]

What?!?@?!

We have a golden future and sunlit uplands now we've done Brexit. Just gotta take that oven ready turkey off the shelf and reap the Brexit dividend. I'm excited!

We can now have the bonfire of red tape, a fair chunk of which gave those at the bottom some protections, so those at the very top can make bigger profits that will trickle down in mouthfuls too large to consume.

Austerity. A thing of the past.

If anyone deserves all these good things. It is surely you Brexiteers. And you want to give all this up? I guess so you could help somewhere less fortunate than the UK too? I can but admire your dedication to the cause.

[Worthy4England]

So Jeremy Hunt has said this morning, some taxes will go up. As far as I can tell, that would remove all of the "growth agenda" and the only thing remaining would be bankers bonuses.

To sum up, they haven't capped energy bills. Just the unit rate. Inflation is all over the place and they're telling people they've won on energy, whilst cash rolls out of their shrinking wallets on food and soon, mortgages.

They've spent three weeks telling us the only way out is growth. And they now remove every element that was supposed to create it.

Truly a budget for the common folk.