The Politics Thread

[BWFC_Insane]

Liz Truss said in her campaign for leadership that her secondary school ‘let kids down by having low expectations of them’.

I think she should apologise. Whatever expectations her school had of her were clearly way way too ambitious.

[Worthy4England]

Liz Truss said in her campaign for leadership that her secondary school ‘let kids down by having low expectations of them’.

I think she should apologise. Whatever expectations her school had of her were clearly way way too ambitious.

Either that, or they got it spot on!

[Harry Genshaw]

Liz Truss said in her campaign for leadership that her secondary school ‘let kids down by having low expectations of them’.

I think she should apologise. Whatever expectations her school had of her were clearly way way too ambitious.

I'm struggling to think of a person in history as under qualified for a position as she so obviously is.

[Bruce Rioja]

I'm struggling to think of a person in history as under qualified for a position as she so obviously is.

Possibly that taxi driver who found himself being interviewed on the BBC News about the future of the music industry in the face of emerging download and streaming sites.

It's close though

[Harry Genshaw]

I'm struggling to think of a person in history as under qualified for a position as she so obviously is.

Possibly that taxi driver who found himself being interviewed on the BBC News about the future of the music industry in the face of emerging download and streaming sites.

It's close though

Good shout! I was thinking of the guy who went from managing the Dog & Duck in some Sunday league and ended up managing Leeds. Hockaday?

Which then leads me to Ali Dia!

[Bruce Rioja]

Good shout! I was thinking of the guy who went from managing the Dog & Duck in some Sunday league and ended up managing Leeds. Hockaday?

Which then leads me to Ali Dia!

Currently Head of Male Football at South Gloucestershire and Stroud College.

I think what makes the Dia story all the more wonderful is that it wasn't some poor 4th Division manager with no scouting network that was fished-in, it was the highly despisable 70s throw-back, Graeme 'I'm a proper man, me' Souness

[Prufrock]

I'm struggling to think of a person in history as under qualified for a position as she so obviously is.

Possibly that taxi driver who found himself being interviewed on the BBC News about the future of the music industry in the face of emerging download and streaming sites.

It's close though

Do you mean Guy Goma, or is there another one I've missed (I do hope so!)?!

Guy Goma went for an IT job at the BBC and was confused for Guy Kewney who they had on to talk about a recent court case and music streaming. He did all right, the lad!

His wiki page used to have that "did you mean to look for Guy Kewney?" link at the top

[Bruce Rioja]

Ah, there are two different versions of the same story in circulation, it would appear.
Fair feck* to the guy for sticking it out though. Chapeau.

[BWFC_Insane]

Seriously, General Election, NOW! You’ve dragged us into the dirt more than anyone could imagine.

Coalition of chaos indeed.

Conservative Chaos. None of them would survive in business they are all absolutely disgraceful.

[Prufrock]

Hopefully that's the last we ever hear of that lunatic.

Add in the three line whip on fracking. Politics is politics, predictions rarely stand up, but it does feel like the end times. GE before Xmas wouldn't surprise me.

[BWFC_Insane]

Hopefully that's the last we ever hear of that lunatic.

Add in the three line whip on fracking. Politics is politics, predictions rarely stand up, but it does feel like the end times. GE before Xmas wouldn't surprise me.

That would need this awful lot to put country before party. In other words it had absolutely no chance of happening.

But it absolutely should.

[Prufrock]

Govt had said internally the fracking vote is a confidence vote, and read something that has suggested Hoyle agreed.

They could defo lose that. It's a popular policy, Tory position is against their manifesto and they have MPs where it is a local issue. At least two have already said they'll defy the whip.

[BWFC_Insane]

Govt had said internally the fracking vote is a confidence vote, and read something that has suggested Hoyle agreed.

They could defo lose that. It's a popular policy, Tory position is against their manifesto and they have MPs where it is a local issue. At least two have already said they'll defy the whip.

They’ve said it is a confidence vote but that doesn’t mean anything - it doesn’t make the vote officially a vote that leads to a general election. It’s just how they’ve decided to whip the vote. Pretty stupid. But will be rolled back on should they lose it.

EDIT: And there we have it, a minister has said ‘obviously this isn’t a confidence vote’ what a set of absolute losers they are.

[Prufrock]

I'm not sure that's quite right. Until the FTFP there was no such thing as a VONC that automatically led to a GE as a matter of law, and that has now been repealed and the previous circumstances reinstated.

Convention is you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and usually GE. We live in wild times where govts have repeatedly trashed convention, but I'm not sure this one is entirely in their gift. If Hoyle thinks it's a confidence vote, then the PM doesn't command the confidence of the house. I'm not sure it's clear the speaker would consider the govt the govt for Parliamentary purposes. And feck knows what the king does. I don't think we've ever been in circumstances where someone has refused to resign.

[BWFC_Insane]

I'm not sure that's quite right. Until the FTFP there was no such thing as a VONC that automatically led to a GE as a matter of law, and that has now been repealed and the previous circumstances reinstated.

Convention is you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and usually GE. We live in wild times where govts have repeatedly trashed convention, but I'm not sure this one is entirely in their gift. If Hoyle thinks it's a confidence vote, then the PM doesn't command the confidence of the house. I'm not sure it's clear the speaker would consider the govt the govt for Parliamentary purposes. And feck knows what the king does. I don't think we've ever been in circumstances where someone has refused to resign.

It’s now not a confidence vote…..

[BWFC_Insane]

The Tory chief whip and deputy chief whip have now resigned. Scenes of Tories screaming and pushing each other in parliament.

Strong and stable. FFS. Can we not just have a referendum?

Allegations that Rees Mogg and Therese Coffey physically manhandled a crying Tory MP to force them into the No lobby.

Crikey. Democracy. Super.

[Prufrock]

I'm not sure that's quite right. Until the FTFP there was no such thing as a VONC that automatically led to a GE as a matter of law, and that has now been repealed and the previous circumstances reinstated.

Convention is you resign if you lose a confidence vote, and usually GE. We live in wild times where govts have repeatedly trashed convention, but I'm not sure this one is entirely in their gift. If Hoyle thinks it's a confidence vote, then the PM doesn't command the confidence of the house. I'm not sure it's clear the speaker would consider the govt the govt for Parliamentary purposes. And feck knows what the king does. I don't think we've ever been in circumstances where someone has refused to resign.

It’s now not a confidence vote…..

I don't think it's up to them.

Truss... Didn't vote?!

Shambles.

[TANGODANCER]

What a box of Borax politics and everything to do with them really are. The terms, costumes and rules and regulations governing everything and everyone from the Sovereign down, haven't moved on since King John was feuding with the Barons and taking rabbits and poultry as taxes. In the Year of Our Lord, 2022, we're further back than when good King Henry was re-writing divorce laws to suit himself and arguments were resolved by chopping heads off dissenters. Take a good look at our list of Prime Ministers since the second World War ended even when hanging was still considered acceptable as a punishment for crime and ask what is their use? What did they really achieve collectively when totalled?

Politics isn't about the good of the country, that's a fallacy; it's about greed and power and always will be. Maybe we should have listened to David Cameron...maybe..

[Prufrock]

Has to be said it's a cracking bit of politics from Starmer and Labour.

They must be running out of MPs to even do the jobs. Shit show. The beginning of the end.

[Worthy4England]

What a box of Borax politics and everything to do with them really are. The terms, costumes and rules and regulations governing everything and everyone from the Sovereign down, haven't moved on since King John was feuding with the Barons and taking rabbits and poultry as taxes. In the Year of Our Lord, 2022, we're further back than when good King Henry was re-writing divorce laws to suit himself and arguments were resolved by chopping heads off dissenters. Take a good look at our list of Prime Ministers since the second World War ended even when hanging was still considered acceptable as a punishment for crime and ask what is their use? What did they really achieve collectively when totalled?

Politics isn't about the good of the country, that's a fallacy; it's about greed and power and always will be. Maybe we should have listened to David Cameron...maybe..

Sorry TD, I've seem multiple variations on this post. What the feck are you on about? If you genuinely think none of this makes a difference, then on one hand, I applaud you, in the "big scheme of things" but right here, right now, it has an impact.