What a load of tosh
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boltonboris
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actually, some of it is quite good this year...
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and a thousand more here.... http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/pope/page2
(Tango bought one of these..
)and a thousand more here.... http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/pope/page2
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As if there's the slightest chance he is here with anything to do with head of state of the Vatican-ness. He's hardly sitting down discussing trade agreements is he?boltonboris wrote:This.. Vatican City is a country in it's own right. He's the leader of itWinter Hill White wrote:Is one of his roles the Head of State of the Vatican?
If so, I suppose it counts as a state visit, hence follows whatever happens were (subjunctive, Monty?) Obama, Kim Jong-Il, Sarkozy, etc to come here.
Out of interest what is the objection to him coming here? Is it his refusal, still, to give up the names and locations of child abusers? If so I can sympathise with that. I'm not sure I have any objection at all to him visiting in principle though, there's catholics in this country who want to see him, so fair enough, I do have an issue with us paying for it though. Similarly I have an issue with his cardinals spouting bigotry and bollocks on the eve of said visit and not being forced to apologise. All in all though, I'm not that bothered either way about it.
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I've a couple of Pope tarts for supper please! 
Come on guys the church hiding sleeze bag peodo's is enough to make anyone sick. If he wants to be seen as head of a good religous sect surely they most be cast to the depths of hell he should be prosecuted for aiding criminal acts or something like that if he doesn't cough up the names and what the sect knows of these vile crimes.
Religion stinks, politics pongs but religion really stinks!!
Planet Hoboh will ban religion and churches, hang all peodos and use all the cash in the vatican bank and the shares held by the C of E to pay off the national debt then the health service can be properly run after the cull of all managers and layabouts and jobs worths it currently employs.
We will burn effigys of Harriet instead of poor owd Guy on Nov the 5th and all beer will be free at weekends, sound good? join up!
Come on guys the church hiding sleeze bag peodo's is enough to make anyone sick. If he wants to be seen as head of a good religous sect surely they most be cast to the depths of hell he should be prosecuted for aiding criminal acts or something like that if he doesn't cough up the names and what the sect knows of these vile crimes.
Religion stinks, politics pongs but religion really stinks!!
Planet Hoboh will ban religion and churches, hang all peodos and use all the cash in the vatican bank and the shares held by the C of E to pay off the national debt then the health service can be properly run after the cull of all managers and layabouts and jobs worths it currently employs.
We will burn effigys of Harriet instead of poor owd Guy on Nov the 5th and all beer will be free at weekends, sound good? join up!
Dunno, is there nothing in the bible about not protecting nonces? There probably should be. Coz he must be able to do something. God, that is.thebish wrote:you think he's worried God will shoot him?Prufrock wrote:Nothing says faith in god like 4inch thick bullet-proof glass.
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Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.
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bad people do bad things... bad people cover up the stuff that bad people do... God doesn't seem to favour the sniper rifle though... (and if he did - I see the pope hasn't put a bullet-proof roof on - which may be an oversight if God is shooting from above...Prufrock wrote:Dunno, is there nothing in the bible about not protecting nonces? There probably should be. Coz he must be able to do something. God, that is.thebish wrote:you think he's worried God will shoot him?Prufrock wrote:Nothing says faith in god like 4inch thick bullet-proof glass.
I believe the bullet-proof glass dates from the shooting of Pope JPII in the early 1980s - he survived 4 bullets I think...
thebish wrote:bad people do bad things... bad people cover up the stuff that bad people do... God doesn't seem to favour the sniper rifle though... (and if he did - I see the pope hasn't put a bullet-proof roof on - which may be an oversight if God is shooting from above...Prufrock wrote:Dunno, is there nothing in the bible about not protecting nonces? There probably should be. Coz he must be able to do something. God, that is.thebish wrote:you think he's worried God will shoot him?Prufrock wrote:Nothing says faith in god like 4inch thick bullet-proof glass.
I believe the bullet-proof glass dates from the shooting of Pope JPII in the early 1980s - he survived 4 bullets I think...
Isn't god supposedly 'everywhere' anyway, so all in all if he wants to get you, you're pretty f*cked. Unless he's distracted working on that boulder he can't lift. Overall though, aren't we allowed to object to the state-visit of somebody who protects paedophiles, states that condoms help spread AIDS, opposes gay rights, and comes here on a state visit part funded by taxpayers as the head of a state which is a state despite not meeting the criteria of the Montevideo Convention, but rather coz they declared they were on God's say-so? You've mentioned Pinochet and Mugabe already, I'm fairly sure there would have been objections to their visits, and certainly would be if they came again (bit difficult for the General I accept). Surely it's just free speech and all?
That said I do take your point that it is misleading to present this petition without pointing out their links to the BHA, but that's the paper, not the signatories.
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Prufrock wrote: Overall though, aren't we allowed to object to the state-visit of somebody who protects paedophiles, states that condoms help spread AIDS, opposes gay rights, and comes here on a state visit part funded by taxpayers as the head of a state which is a state despite not meeting the criteria of the Montevideo Convention, but rather coz they declared they were on God's say-so? You've mentioned Pinochet and Mugabe already, I'm fairly sure there would have been objections to their visits, and certainly would be if they came again (bit difficult for the General I accept). Surely it's just free speech and all?
That said I do take your point that it is misleading to present this petition without pointing out their links to the BHA, but that's the paper, not the signatories.
yes - we are allowed to object - I object - I think the pope is an odious man. I haven't criticised anyone for objecting have I?
if you are all writing and are linked to a campaign group run jointly by the BHA and the NSA called "Protest the Pope" - then you should be honest enough to say so in your letter - which they do not.
it is not national news that 50 members of the Protest the Pope campaign are protesting about the pope's visit. It doesn't invalidate their arguments or their protest - but it is dishonest.
as i said - a similar letter signed by 50 catholic priests supporting his visit would not be national news
there was a similar story last year where a group of scientists wrote a letter arguing that the Labour policies best supported science. Only only for it later to emerge that they were all members of "Scientists for Labour". that's dishonest.
I think I agree with you regarding the dishonesty of the media, though I disagree that it 'isn't news'. Support is less newsworthy than complaints. It's the principle why Ofcom receives more complaints than it does letters of support, and why we don't turn on the news to hear stories of how 'no troops were killed today in Afghanistan'. Where 50 Catholic priests to protest an issue I do think it would be national news, though perhaps not in the same publication, but then the idea that newspapers are not mouthpieces for opinions, and remain neutral is outdated, if it ever truly was the case. That said the two examples you quote do strike me as dishonest.thebish wrote:Prufrock wrote: Overall though, aren't we allowed to object to the state-visit of somebody who protects paedophiles, states that condoms help spread AIDS, opposes gay rights, and comes here on a state visit part funded by taxpayers as the head of a state which is a state despite not meeting the criteria of the Montevideo Convention, but rather coz they declared they were on God's say-so? You've mentioned Pinochet and Mugabe already, I'm fairly sure there would have been objections to their visits, and certainly would be if they came again (bit difficult for the General I accept). Surely it's just free speech and all?
That said I do take your point that it is misleading to present this petition without pointing out their links to the BHA, but that's the paper, not the signatories.
yes - we are allowed to object - I object - I think the pope is an odious man. I haven't criticised anyone for objecting have I?
if you are all writing and are linked to a campaign group run jointly by the BHA and the NSA called "Protest the Pope" - then you should be honest enough to say so in your letter - which they do not.
it is not national news that 50 members of the Protest the Pope campaign are protesting about the pope's visit. It doesn't invalidate their arguments or their protest - but it is dishonest.
as i said - a similar letter signed by 50 catholic priests supporting his visit would not be national news
there was a similar story last year where a group of scientists wrote a letter arguing that the Labour policies best supported science. Only only for it later to emerge that they were all members of "Scientists for Labour". that's dishonest.
In a world that has decided
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.
That it's going to lose its mind
Be more kind, my friends, try to be more kind.
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The Tories new line is that they are "willing to do god". If you renounce them for all eternity, you've found yourself a disciple. Our paths have miraculously converged.Hoboh wrote:I've a couple of Pope tarts for supper please!
Come on guys the church hiding sleeze bag peodo's is enough to make anyone sick. If he wants to be seen as head of a good religous sect surely they most be cast to the depths of hell he should be prosecuted for aiding criminal acts or something like that if he doesn't cough up the names and what the sect knows of these vile crimes.
Religion stinks, politics pongs but religion really stinks!!
Planet Hoboh will ban religion and churches, hang all peodos and use all the cash in the vatican bank and the shares held by the C of E to pay off the national debt then the health service can be properly run after the cull of all managers and layabouts and jobs worths it currently employs.
We will burn effigys of Harriet instead of poor owd Guy on Nov the 5th and all beer will be free at weekends, sound good? join up!
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