Ryder Cup

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:55 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Bjorn rages at decision

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/5311632.stm
I'm with Woosnam on this one. I remain unconvinced by Bjorn and his ability to lose the plot when under pressure.

reading the comments i would suggest that bjorn was promised or at least led to believe that he would be included

i think europe will win, for all tigers form and greatness he has never fared well in the team game

as for clarke. he is a great player and knows the course very well, surely only mcginley would know it better, but so long without competitive golf. i hope the guy drops the winning the put, there will not be a dry eye in the world i tell you

TANGODANCER · Post by **TANGODANCER** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:03 pm

The European team spirit has always been good. Hope this doesn't have any effect on it. I fancy our chances because young players like Garcia and Donald are well versed in competition at this level. I too would have liked to see Jiminez in there but it isn't a bad squad. Think it will be a bit tougher this time though.

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:07 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I wonder if Wanderers Ways could raise a golf team to face TW's finest in a Ryder Cup special?
Only TW's finest you say?
They must have a "worst" player I can take on. I'm back in practise and couldn't possibly have another day like last time. I will also wear my "Who Shot Campo" T-shirt under my sweater. Exclude me and the Bruce at your peril. Bring it on.

i'd give it a go, but please don't put me up against any bandits

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:33 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Bjorn rages at decision

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/golf/5311632.stm
I'm with Woosnam on this one. I remain unconvinced by Bjorn and his ability to lose the plot when under pressure.
reading the comments i would suggest that bjorn was promised or at least led to believe that he would be included

i think europe will win, for all tigers form and greatness he has never fared well in the team game

as for clarke. he is a great player and knows the course very well, surely only mcginley would know it better, but so long without competitive golf. i hope the guy drops the winning the put, there will not be a dry eye in the world i tell you

Bjorn- I'd say the opposite - he said he's not heard anything at all from Woosie.

Tiger - there's no motivation for him in Ryder Cups, no money and no trophies. 5 tournaments in a row puts him in top form but that counts for nought in matchplay and the Ryder Cup.

Clarke will become the focal point for europe. the one thing europe do is play as a team, they play for each other, they'll want to do it for him and the memory of his late wife, particularly harrington who was at the funeral and is a close family friend.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:02 pm

communistworkethic wrote:
Tiger - there's no motivation for him in Ryder Cups, no money and no trophies.

I think you're quite wrong Commie. Few golfers appreciate the history of the game like he does, and nobody in the world hates to lose like he does. If you think it's the money that keeps Tiger going on the back nine on a sunday, then I'd suggest you don't know much about the man at all.

I think this will be Tiger's Ryder Cup, not Darren's.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:15 pm

Sorry you're just ignoring the facts, you can't miss his apathy to the event. Look at Woods' unfeasibly poor record in the tournament:

P 20 W7 L 11 D2

He may appreciate the history but he has no motivation for the trophy, if it were a major then it would be a different kettle of fish. When he quits he won't care if he's been in no Ryder Cup winning teams or 10, all he'll care about is whether he beats Nickaus' record in majors.

He may owe the team a big performance but don't expect one, especially with so few in the crowd to find his errant ball or stop it going out of bounds

PS guess who's playing here at next week

.... http://www.lochlomond.com/

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:43 pm

His record is surprisingly poor, but it's not because there's no motivation for him.

For someone like Woods, it's very difficult not to be playing your own ball all the time in the Ryder Cup format. Foursomes is a nightmare for a control freak like me - I'm sure it doesn't suit a perfectionist like Woods either.

The other thing you have to bear in mind is that Woods has been playing Ryder Cup golf since he was a very young man - '97 at Valhalla if memory serves. He's been the youngest member of the American team everytime he has played, including 2004. But yet everytime, all the expectation has surrounded Woods.

And as great has Tiger's career has been since 97, the Ryder Cup hasn't always come at the best times for him - for example, he did not play the 2004 Ryder Cup as the No.1 ranked player in the world.

Throw into the mix the fact that every European wants to beat Tiger more than anyone, and that Tiger has usually been part of a down-beat team on the back foot, and his record starts to look understandable, if not impressive.

So anyway, I don't think it's a question of motivation. Woods is the ultimate individual sportsman, and the team game is not something that comes too easily to him. But I do think that things will change for him this time.

kagni · Post by **kagni** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:37 pm

Surprised Bjorn and Westwood were the only players he mentions as considering for the second wildcard.
Carl Petterssen who plays in the US won the Memorial and had a few top 10 finishes this year, including in the British Open and the Players Championship.
He is ranked higher in the World Rankings than Westwood and Bjorn (and Casey and McGinley too for that matter).

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:38 pm

kagni wrote:Surprised Bjorn and Westwood were the only players he mentions as considering for the second wildcard.
Carl Petterssen who plays in the US won the Memorial and had a few top 10 finishes this year, including in the British Open and the Players Championship.
He is ranked higher in the World Rankings than Westwood and Bjorn (and Casey and McGinley too for that matter).

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Poor form not to support the European Tour, it seems.

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:47 pm

perhaps if it had been in the US it might have been different. He's picked Westwood for Ryder Cup pedigree and his 2 wins at the K Club.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:50 pm

communistworkethic wrote:perhaps if it had been in the US it might have been different. He's picked Westwood for Ryder Cup pedigree and his 2 wins at the K Club.

Yeah five years ago! There's a chap called Ballesteros who has a bit of Ryder Cup pedigree, and links up well with Olazabal - get him on the phone Woosie!

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:56 pm

You may or may not have noticed Westwood hasn't been playing that badly this year.

blurred · Post by **blurred** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:35 pm

Thought this was going to be a thread after the TW Open

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:39 pm

well we're waiting fro Mummy to get his ass over to wanderers ways and challenge them to a Ryder Cup-stylee match. I think they're more in to hare coursing, badger baiting and cock fighting though.

mummywhycantieatcrayons · Post by **mummywhycantieatcrayons** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 4:48 pm

communistworkethic wrote:You may or may not have noticed Westwood hasn't been playing that badly this year.

So now you want to discuss recent form!

communistworkethic wrote:well we're waiting fro Mummy to get his ass over to wanderers ways and challenge them to a Ryder Cup-stylee match. I think they're more in to hare coursing, badger baiting and cock fighting though.

Already done. Complete with embarrassing typo in the post title.

http://www.wanderersways.com/forum/inde ... opic=29678

However, the more I think about, the less I am able to come up with a suitable date.

ratbert · Post by **ratbert** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:52 am

It's started if, we hadn't noticed

Good start by Europe, some great golf being played, Casey made a blinding eagle at the fourth. Had quite a lump in my throat for Darren's reception at the first. The atmosphere is spectacular.

C'mon Europe!

keveh · Post by **keveh** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:12 am

ratbert wrote:It's started if, we hadn't noticed Good start by Europe, some great golf being played, Casey made a blinding eagle at the fourth. Had quite a lump in my throat for Darren's reception at the first. The atmosphere is spectacular.

C'mon Europe!

I'm listening online, I want to go home and watch it

I wonder how many people have taken the day off work?

ratbert · Post by **ratbert** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 10:34 am

Or have the luxury of working from home

hisroyalgingerness · Post by **hisroyalgingerness** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:46 pm

swings and roundabouts, fair exciting stuff. i wonder if lehman has the balls to drop tiger for the foursomes. i think that could well fire him up

keveh · Post by **keveh** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:57 pm

hisroyalgingerness wrote:i wonder if lehman has the balls to drop tiger for the foursomes. i think that could well fire him up

He's not been playing too badly today from what i've heard.

Could give him a kick up the arse though.

Even though that isn't what we want to happen

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