The Politics Thread

[thebish]

As an aside, my issue isn't really what he said, just the fact that he said it whilst forgetting to turn his microphone off... That's George W Bush kind of dense... He'll probably issue a rollocking to his aides for not reminding him, which is amazing!

speaking as one who gets radio-miked-up every week - forgetting to turn it off is REMARKABLY easy to do!

Do you slag off your Parish folk at the end of your sermons? Naughty naughty

indeed!

[Prufrock]

Fooking Media, again. I've listened to the whole interview, and to be fair I don't think she sounded too bad, though she did sound a bit thick at times, but up to a point she raised valid concerns, yet as soon as she mentioned the word immigration, I thought, 'here we go'. And given how often and why folk bang on about it, especially when you use the word 'flocking', it sounds like Daily Mail bollocks anger. I can understand why on a snap judgement of her he came to that conclusion. That said, it was daft to say it, and he should have apologised, and now that should be it. But ooooooooh noooooo, the media have realised this is a headline without doing any proper work job.

Also, she did an interview after the furore kicked off, where she seemed to have had some Tory spin doctor prep her. In her talk with Brown, one of her concerns raised was the deficit, and in the second she must have mentioned the phrase 'national debt' countless times, yet she didn't really seem to know what it meant or what any of the proposed solutions were. It was just a phrase repeated and repeated.

Non-story though innit, even she wouldn't say she wanted Labour to lose, just that she wasn't fussed anymore, and only one person on the street cares. Go and report on something fooking important.

[CAPSLOCK]

(Much of) Labours core vote are concerned about immigration

Labours leader chooses to believe anybody concerned about immigration is a bigot

And Camerons out of touch......

[CAPSLOCK]

this is sloppy and a bit dumb - but perfectly understandable

If I did it, I'd agree

He's the fcuking PM

And he's so far out of his depth, his ears are wet

[thebish]

this is sloppy and a bit dumb - but perfectly understandable

If I did it, I'd agree

He's the fcuking PM

And he's so far out of his depth, his ears are wet

what part of being PM makes it less understandable?

[Zulus Thousand of em]

As an aside, my issue isn't really what he said, just the fact that he said it whilst forgetting to turn his microphone off... That's George W Bush kind of dense... He'll probably issue a rollocking to his aides for not reminding him, which is amazing!

Interesting. It's my issue too, albeit from a different perspective. Being involved, on a daily basis, with PR and marketing issues (although not in the heady heights and astronomical fees of party politics) I question the competence of a support team that allows old Gordon to go bimbling off down the road with an open mike on his lapel. It's just a no-brainer and highlights the basic flaws that surround the Labour Party and its 2010 election campaign.

I'm not, for one minute, suggesting that the other parties are perfect but the Labour campaign is turning out to be a monumental PR disaster. It will appear as subject matter in "how not to" lectures for years to come.

An Elvis Presley impersonator? FFS!

[thebish]

As an aside, my issue isn't really what he said, just the fact that he said it whilst forgetting to turn his microphone off... That's George W Bush kind of dense... He'll probably issue a rollocking to his aides for not reminding him, which is amazing!

Interesting. It's my issue too, albeit from a different perspective. Being involved, on a daily basis, with PR and marketing issues (although not in the heady heights and astronomical fees of party politics) I question the competence of a support team that allows old Gordon to go bimbling off down the road with an open mike on his lapel. It's just a no-brainer and highlights the basic flaws that surround the Labour Party and its 2010 election campaign.

I'm not, for one minute, suggesting that the other parties are perfect but the Labour campaign is turning out to be a monumental PR disaster. It will appear as subject matter in "how not to" lectures for years to come.

An Elvis Presley impersonator? FFS!

and Pepper Pig...

[Raven]

Time to vote after 20+ years of refusing to on the grounds of not believing a word they say (still dont) but to my horror last night I looked up who I could vote for in the local and nat elections and saw...

Local - Labour, Tory and BNP
Nat - Labour, Tory, Lib and BNP

So now having to use my vote (as a protest I guess) to help make sure the BNP do not get in, quite open who for, its Labour for the locals and might have been the Libs for the National one but the Lib candidate lives in Stoke, not that local to Nuneaton is it! So its Labour again. After leaving school in 1982 and seeing what a mess Thatcher made and how she single handedly tried to destroy all UK manufacturing (with help from some moronic unions), decided that mass unemployment was the best weapons against 10%+ interest rates (along with other things) there is no way I would vote Conservative, also "Eton Boy and professioanl Politician Dave" comes across as a complete untrustworthly bland tosspot.

are the lib dems not standing in your local elections? I'd be very surprised... I suspect you haven't got a full list - but, no need - you seem to be on the right track!

Nope I checked only three came up

[thebish]

Time to vote after 20+ years of refusing to on the grounds of not believing a word they say (still dont) but to my horror last night I looked up who I could vote for in the local and nat elections and saw...

Local - Labour, Tory and BNP
Nat - Labour, Tory, Lib and BNP

So now having to use my vote (as a protest I guess) to help make sure the BNP do not get in, quite open who for, its Labour for the locals and might have been the Libs for the National one but the Lib candidate lives in Stoke, not that local to Nuneaton is it! So its Labour again. After leaving school in 1982 and seeing what a mess Thatcher made and how she single handedly tried to destroy all UK manufacturing (with help from some moronic unions), decided that mass unemployment was the best weapons against 10%+ interest rates (along with other things) there is no way I would vote Conservative, also "Eton Boy and professioanl Politician Dave" comes across as a complete untrustworthly bland tosspot.

are the lib dems not standing in your local elections? I'd be very surprised... I suspect you haven't got a full list - but, no need - you seem to be on the right track!

Nope I checked only three came up

what is your constituency? (The BBC has mine wrong)

[as]

The 'she sounded thick' comment is a good one, I talk in a similair accent to her, so no doubt I sound thick as well, yet if Walter from Hemel Hempstead comes on, asking a similair question, he's regarded as more intelligent. Here was me thinking this was a football board for a Northern football team too

I thought she made a valid point, and one he didn't answer. The thing is, in this namby-pamby world, you're simply not allowed to ask a question like that, as you're instantly accused of being racist.

Him saying we've got as many people leaving as we have arriving in the UK was a good one A good one, and complete b***ocks too. Unless you class people dying as emigrating anyway.

[Prufrock]

Time to vote after 20+ years of refusing to on the grounds of not believing a word they say (still dont) but to my horror last night I looked up who I could vote for in the local and nat elections and saw...

Local - Labour, Tory and BNP
Nat - Labour, Tory, Lib and BNP

So now having to use my vote (as a protest I guess) to help make sure the BNP do not get in, quite open who for, its Labour for the locals and might have been the Libs for the National one but the Lib candidate lives in Stoke, not that local to Nuneaton is it! So its Labour again. After leaving school in 1982 and seeing what a mess Thatcher made and how she single handedly tried to destroy all UK manufacturing (with help from some moronic unions), decided that mass unemployment was the best weapons against 10%+ interest rates (along with other things) there is no way I would vote Conservative, also "Eton Boy and professioanl Politician Dave" comes across as a complete untrustworthly bland tosspot.

On a local level there is no problem with the Labour MPs, our one back home, despite being a grade A* see you next tuesday of a man, has done a lot of really good things in the constituencey, similarly down here.

Anyway, I've just checked out my candidates, no BNP rep, which is unsurprising in Tottenham, I wouldn't want to be the poor sod complaining for them round here. Though there is a UKIP. Main three are there, along with a few independents, a representative of the Christian party, who I'd never heard of, but turn out to be MENTAL, and the two I think I will be choosing from. The fact this is a massive Labour majority seat, 54% to second place Lib Dems 16% last time, means they are almost certain to stay in, and if not it will be the Lib Dems, means I don't feel I have to do a keep the Tories out vote, and can vote for who I want. On the one hand the Trade Unionist and Socialist coalition, who are agains the cuts proposed in the local schools and colleges, or more likely the Greens who want more funding for the social services, which given the rates of youth crime here I think is massively good thing, as is the opposition to funding cuts t'other one is on about, and better housing, and against privatisation of the NHS. It's odd that the environment isn't that high on my list of priorities, and why I wish the Greens would change their name, because they are much more than a one issue party now, and the rest of their policies are much more similar to my own beliefs.

[BWFC_Insane]

The 'she sounded thick' comment is a good one, I talk in a similair accent to her, so no doubt I sound thick as well, yet if Walter from Hemel Hempstead comes on, asking a similair question, he's regarded as more intelligent. Here was me thinking this was a football board for a Northern football team too

I thought she made a valid point, and one he didn't answer. The thing is, in this namby-pamby world, you're simply not allowed to ask a question like that, as you're instantly accused of being racist.

Him saying we've got as many people leaving as we have arriving in the UK was a good one A good one, and complete b***ocks too. Unless you class people dying as emigrating anyway.

Sounding thick has nothing to do with accents whatsoever. Its what comes out of your mouth that counts.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

As an aside, my issue isn't really what he said, just the fact that he said it whilst forgetting to turn his microphone off... That's George W Bush kind of dense... He'll probably issue a rollocking to his aides for not reminding him, which is amazing!

Interesting. It's my issue too, albeit from a different perspective. Being involved, on a daily basis, with PR and marketing issues (although not in the heady heights and astronomical fees of party politics) I question the competence of a support team that allows old Gordon to go bimbling off down the road with an open mike on his lapel. It's just a no-brainer and highlights the basic flaws that surround the Labour Party and its 2010 election campaign.

I'm not, for one minute, suggesting that the other parties are perfect but the Labour campaign is turning out to be a monumental PR disaster. It will appear as subject matter in "how not to" lectures for years to come.

An Elvis Presley impersonator? FFS!

The other parties certainly are not perfect. Much of what the Conservatives are putting out is thoroughly pissing me off.

This photo captures the lunacy of that pathetic Hung Parliament Party broadcast quite nicely.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... l?image=14

[Raven]

Not daft enough to trust the BBC, checked with official site and this is all i have

Galley Common
Grant Matthew Petersen The Conservative Party Candidate
Hart Wendy British National Party
Jones Michael John The Labour Party Candidate


I feel left out

[Prufrock]

The 'she sounded thick' comment is a good one, I talk in a similair accent to her, so no doubt I sound thick as well, yet if Walter from Hemel Hempstead comes on, asking a similair question, he's regarded as more intelligent. Here was me thinking this was a football board for a Northern football team too

I thought she made a valid point, and one he didn't answer. The thing is, in this namby-pamby world, you're simply not allowed to ask a question like that, as you're instantly accused of being racist.

Him saying we've got as many people leaving as we have arriving in the UK was a good one A good one, and complete b***ocks too. Unless you class people dying as emigrating anyway.

Sounding thick has nothing to do with accents whatsoever. Its what comes out of your mouth that counts.

Indiddles.

[Prufrock]

As an aside, my issue isn't really what he said, just the fact that he said it whilst forgetting to turn his microphone off... That's George W Bush kind of dense... He'll probably issue a rollocking to his aides for not reminding him, which is amazing!

Interesting. It's my issue too, albeit from a different perspective. Being involved, on a daily basis, with PR and marketing issues (although not in the heady heights and astronomical fees of party politics) I question the competence of a support team that allows old Gordon to go bimbling off down the road with an open mike on his lapel. It's just a no-brainer and highlights the basic flaws that surround the Labour Party and its 2010 election campaign.

I'm not, for one minute, suggesting that the other parties are perfect but the Labour campaign is turning out to be a monumental PR disaster. It will appear as subject matter in "how not to" lectures for years to come.

An Elvis Presley impersonator? FFS!

The other parties certainly are not perfect. Much of what the Conservatives are putting out is thoroughly pissing me off.

This photo captures the lunacy of that pathetic Hung Parliament Party broadcast quite nicely.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... l?image=14

Well at least time they haven't had Mike Reid rapping again....yet. I'm imagining a Bob Monkhouse style re-animation. Come on David, you know it makes sense.

[thebish]

20 years ago or so, my missus worked in Rochdale - in Woolworths Head office...

two quotes from her time in that office..

1. from the woman who used the same desk: "I wish we had a system like South Africa over here to keep them (the Asians) in their place."

2. from the HR manager "(sniggering) Oh yes - we interviewed am Asian for job, but (more sniggering) I think we all know everyone else would walk out if we employed one."

[boltonboris]

20 years ago or so, my missus worked in Rochdale - in Woolworths Head office...

two quotes from her time in that office..

1. from the woman who used the same desk: "I wish we had a system like South Africa over here to keep them (the Asians) in their place."

2. from the HR manager "(sniggering) Oh yes - we interviewed am Asian for job, but (more sniggering) I think we all know everyone else would walk out if we employed one."

And this, wether people like it or not, is the problem in most working class towns.. Bolton has it, Oldham, Rochdale, Blackburn, Bradford, Huddersfield.. there's loads

[Tombwfc]

As an aside, my issue isn't really what he said, just the fact that he said it whilst forgetting to turn his microphone off... That's George W Bush kind of dense... He'll probably issue a rollocking to his aides for not reminding him, which is amazing!

Interesting. It's my issue too, albeit from a different perspective. Being involved, on a daily basis, with PR and marketing issues (although not in the heady heights and astronomical fees of party politics) I question the competence of a support team that allows old Gordon to go bimbling off down the road with an open mike on his lapel. It's just a no-brainer and highlights the basic flaws that surround the Labour Party and its 2010 election campaign.

I'm not, for one minute, suggesting that the other parties are perfect but the Labour campaign is turning out to be a monumental PR disaster. It will appear as subject matter in "how not to" lectures for years to come.

An Elvis Presley impersonator? FFS!

The other parties certainly are not perfect. Much of what the Conservatives are putting out is thoroughly pissing me off.

This photo captures the lunacy of that pathetic Hung Parliament Party broadcast quite nicely.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... l?image=14

Well at least time they haven't had Mike Reid rapping again....yet. I'm imagining a Bob Monkhouse style re-animation. Come on David, you know it makes sense.

Which gives the perfect oppertunity to post - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKERYDlE ... re=related

[Prufrock]

As an aside, my issue isn't really what he said, just the fact that he said it whilst forgetting to turn his microphone off... That's George W Bush kind of dense... He'll probably issue a rollocking to his aides for not reminding him, which is amazing!

Interesting. It's my issue too, albeit from a different perspective. Being involved, on a daily basis, with PR and marketing issues (although not in the heady heights and astronomical fees of party politics) I question the competence of a support team that allows old Gordon to go bimbling off down the road with an open mike on his lapel. It's just a no-brainer and highlights the basic flaws that surround the Labour Party and its 2010 election campaign.

I'm not, for one minute, suggesting that the other parties are perfect but the Labour campaign is turning out to be a monumental PR disaster. It will appear as subject matter in "how not to" lectures for years to come.

An Elvis Presley impersonator? FFS!

The other parties certainly are not perfect. Much of what the Conservatives are putting out is thoroughly pissing me off.

This photo captures the lunacy of that pathetic Hung Parliament Party broadcast quite nicely.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picture ... l?image=14

Well at least time they haven't had Mike Reid rapping again....yet. I'm imagining a Bob Monkhouse style re-animation. Come on David, you know it makes sense.

Which gives the perfect oppertunity to post - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKERYDlE ... re=related

I was hoping somebody would

"Are they trying?! Is this match fixing? MIKE REID! RAPPING!!"

Ace!