Brexit or Britin

[Prufrock]

Photo doing the rounds from one of the big job sites that shows 700k (!) fewer jobs being advertised than this time last year (c.1.5m - 800k). The figures for the period pre-referendum were v similar to last year (slightly up).

Not sure it doesn't look balls, but...

[Beefheart]

Photo doing the rounds from one of the big job sites that shows 700k (!) fewer jobs being advertised than this time last year (c.1.5m - 800k). The figures for the period pre-referendum were v similar to last year (slightly up).

Not sure it doesn't look balls, but...

Data and picture originate with the Financial Times. Whilst they backed Remain (I think?), they're usually not the sort of paper to outright lie about data so there's probably some truth in it.

Aye, that was the key graphic from the article I linked.

[Enoch]

Photo doing the rounds from one of the big job sites that shows 700k (!) fewer jobs being advertised than this time last year

Obviously, what with all them extra immigrants taking our jobs.

Get your people to call my people and we'll swap some stats.

[Bruce Rioja]

Photo doing the rounds from one of the big job sites that shows 700k (!) fewer jobs being advertised than this time last year (c.1.5m - 800k). The figures for the period pre-referendum were v similar to last year (slightly up).

Not sure it doesn't look balls, but...

Ahh. We'll be getting our fruit picked then?!

[Hoboh]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -market-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Yet anther Europhilic sticks his head above the parapet.

Have they not realised yet blokes like him along with the other power mad federalists lost the UK?

Blair was one of their ilk and look where he's ended up.

[Beefheart]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -market-eu

Yet anther Europhilic sticks his head above the parapet.

Have they not realised yet blokes like him along with the other power mad federalists lost the UK?

Blair was one of their ilk and look where he's ended up.

Which is going to be Hoboh: Economic suicide or a few less immigrants?

[Lord Kangana]

I thought immigration wasn't the main issue?

[Hoboh]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -market-eu

Yet anther Europhilic sticks his head above the parapet.

Have they not realised yet blokes like him along with the other power mad federalists lost the UK?

Blair was one of their ilk and look where he's ended up.

I'm missing your point here Hoboh? What's wrong with a country or union saying "If you want to trade with us, you have to accept our terms"? That's always been their stance - if you want to trade, you have to allow freedom of movement. Even the mighty Norway have to do this. In fact I think the only holdouts are the Swiss, and their trade negotiations are still ongoing, but I'd have to double check that. I'm fairly certain we'll be doing the same if and when we leave. What exactly is your issue here?

My 'issue' would be with anyone who accept total unfettered freedom of movement and the fact only certai people with very vested interests in a united states of Europe are the ones who keep championing this point

[Worthy4England]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... -market-eu

Yet anther Europhilic sticks his head above the parapet.

Have they not realised yet blokes like him along with the other power mad federalists lost the UK?

Blair was one of their ilk and look where he's ended up.

I'm missing your point here Hoboh? What's wrong with a country or union saying "If you want to trade with us, you have to accept our terms"? That's always been their stance - if you want to trade, you have to allow freedom of movement. Even the mighty Norway have to do this. In fact I think the only holdouts are the Swiss, and their trade negotiations are still ongoing, but I'd have to double check that. I'm fairly certain we'll be doing the same if and when we leave. What exactly is your issue here?

My 'issue' would be with anyone who accept total unfettered freedom of movement and the fact only certai people with very vested interests in a united states of Europe are the ones who keep championing this point

What about capping Turkey to no more than 85 million per annum, and the rest unrestricted?

I think where this lands is going to be an interesting "balancing act"...I don't see us getting away with zero and free trade - guess it's where the balance is struck.

[Little Green Man]

And why do people think Turkey are so close to joining the EU? They've been trying for well over a decade and are nowhere near joining. They still have issues with Cyprus, and their human rights record to name two sticking points. If they did meet the requirements, they'd then require a unanimous verdict from all EU member states. I'm surprised that them being 'close to joining' is being touted as fact.

If they were (and they're not) we wouldn't have a say in it now anyway, not even if we were allowed into the single market.

[Lord Kangana]

Well we haven't left the EU yet. So at the moment we still do.

[Hoboh]

Anyway, what about the Italians?

Seems the EU is not really helping their needs.

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/news/ita ... ar-AAhGfjE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Worthy4England]

^^ Why do we care?

[bobo the clown]

^^ Why do we care?

Because the €40bn is nowhere near enough. The Italian banks need more like €320bn and it's just not available.

Because German banks are also undercapitalised and at least 2 are close to folding so the Sausage-eaters can't help the Italians. The Eurozone will plunge into another crisis.

So Far-Eastern and Arabic banks are being courted but they insist on doing their business through London. London's price for this is two-fold ... a dropping of some of the threatened cross-Europe restrictions ("Passporting") currently threatened and the retirement of Jean-Claude Junker & moving Martin Schultz out.

You're welcome.

[Lord Kangana]

Its almost as if the banker Nigel Farage was representing the big banks he claimed not to be representing all along.

But no, its all about the little man.

[bedwetter2]

Its almost as if the banker Nigel Farage was representing the big banks he claimed not to be representing all along.

But no, its all about the little man.

Who? Zach Clough?

[Worthy4England]

^^ Why do we care?

Because the €40bn is nowhere near enough. The Italian banks need more like €320bn and it's just not available.

Because German banks are also undercapitalised and at least 2 are close to folding so the Sausage-eaters can't help the Italians. The Eurozone will plunge into another crisis.

So Far-Eastern and Arabic banks are being courted but they insist on doing their business through London. London's price for this is two-fold ... a dropping of some of the threatened cross-Europe restrictions ("Passporting") currently threatened and the retirement of Jean-Claude Junker & moving Martin Schultz out.

You're welcome.

We're not in the Eurozone and we're leaving the EU. Why do we care?

Passporting was highlighted many times previously. No one was able to articulate at the time any sort of plan.

[Hoboh]

^^ Why do we care?

Because the €40bn is nowhere near enough. The Italian banks need more like €320bn and it's just not available.

Because German banks are also undercapitalised and at least 2 are close to folding so the Sausage-eaters can't help the Italians. The Eurozone will plunge into another crisis.

So Far-Eastern and Arabic banks are being courted but they insist on doing their business through London. London's price for this is two-fold ... a dropping of some of the threatened cross-Europe restrictions ("Passporting") currently threatened and the retirement of Jean-Claude Junker & moving Martin Schultz out.

You're welcome.

We're not in the Eurozone and we're leaving the EU. Why do we care?

Passporting was highlighted many times previously. No one was able to articulate at the time any sort of plan.

Nice one mate, not our problem now.

Well it bloody well would have been if we had remained and don't give me the 'we are not in the Eurozone' nonsense, if the Euro collapsed the EU would and we would be part of the calamity it would cause.

[Worthy4England]

^^ Why do we care?

Because the €40bn is nowhere near enough. The Italian banks need more like €320bn and it's just not available.

Because German banks are also undercapitalised and at least 2 are close to folding so the Sausage-eaters can't help the Italians. The Eurozone will plunge into another crisis.

So Far-Eastern and Arabic banks are being courted but they insist on doing their business through London. London's price for this is two-fold ... a dropping of some of the threatened cross-Europe restrictions ("Passporting") currently threatened and the retirement of Jean-Claude Junker & moving Martin Schultz out.

You're welcome.

We're not in the Eurozone and we're leaving the EU. Why do we care?

Passporting was highlighted many times previously. No one was able to articulate at the time any sort of plan.

Nice one mate, not our problem now.

Well it bloody well would have been if we had remained and don't give me the 'we are not in the Eurozone' nonsense, if the Euro collapsed the EU would and we would be part of the calamity it would cause.

A prediction of calamity. How twee. When is WW3 due?

[Hoboh]

^^ Why do we care?

Because the €40bn is nowhere near enough. The Italian banks need more like €320bn and it's just not available.

Because German banks are also undercapitalised and at least 2 are close to folding so the Sausage-eaters can't help the Italians. The Eurozone will plunge into another crisis.

So Far-Eastern and Arabic banks are being courted but they insist on doing their business through London. London's price for this is two-fold ... a dropping of some of the threatened cross-Europe restrictions ("Passporting") currently threatened and the retirement of Jean-Claude Junker & moving Martin Schultz out.

You're welcome.

We're not in the Eurozone and we're leaving the EU. Why do we care?

Passporting was highlighted many times previously. No one was able to articulate at the time any sort of plan.

Nice one mate, not our problem now.

Well it bloody well would have been if we had remained and don't give me the 'we are not in the Eurozone' nonsense, if the Euro collapsed the EU would and we would be part of the calamity it would cause.

A prediction of calamity. How twee. When is WW3 due?

Not a prediction, more a nailed on certainty, one EU state financially fcuked, another on the way and at least two in waiting.

WW3? Actually it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it kicked off in the next two decades, well WWEurope anyway.