Today I'm angry about.....

[bobo the clown]

And Bobo, if you think this government is socialist I think you need to go look up what socialist means.

I think I understand that ... it's called ironing, or something!

[CAPSLOCK]

It's the most pish of all pish arguments. I know I was priveleged, and as such I feel a responsibility to contribute to help people who weren't.

Mighty fine words

But actions, what actions?

How are you going to contribute?

At what age did you see the light?

Or maybe you just went so you'd be able to 'contribute to help people who weren't'

Do you know how twattish that sounds?

[Lord Kangana]

You'd prefer it if he just said he was superior to you for having gone to a private school? You've a hell of a chip on your shoulder about this, haven't you?

[Puskas]

It's the most pish of all pish arguments. I know I was priveleged, and as such I feel a responsibility to contribute to help people who weren't.

Mighty fine words

But actions, what actions?

How are you going to contribute?

At what age did you see the light?

Or maybe you just went so you'd be able to 'contribute to help people who weren't'

Do you know how twattish that sounds?

To be fair to young Prufock, he probably went because his parents told him that was where he was going.

Most kids don't have much of a choice in these matters - I know when I was packed off to Eton at the tender age of four, I didn't. Otherwise I would have told them I would rather be at Harrow.

[Montreal Wanderer]

People who make ad hominem attacks - they're all a bunch of wankers...

Not to mention sexist remarks - ad personem please.

[William the White]

They're very upset about it, though - you can tell by their hang-dog expressions.

That's sick, but I laughed out loud...

[CAPSLOCK]

You'd prefer it if he just said he was superior to you for having gone to a private school? You've a hell of a chip on your shoulder about this, haven't you?

Isn't this the fcuking angry thread?



FWIW, I'm a strong supporter of private education - but not BS as that turns out way more than its share of wankers (and they didn't offer me a free place so they can fcuk right off)

Just can't do with the folk who go, get the benefits, then spout bollocks about how great socialism is

All while quaffing on their Pomagne

[CAPSLOCK]

It's the most pish of all pish arguments. I know I was priveleged, and as such I feel a responsibility to contribute to help people who weren't.

Mighty fine words

But actions, what actions?

How are you going to contribute?

At what age did you see the light?

Or maybe you just went so you'd be able to 'contribute to help people who weren't'

Do you know how twattish that sounds?

To be fair to young Prufock, he probably went because his parents told him that was where he was going.

Most kids don't have much of a choice in these matters - I know when I was packed off to Eton at the tender age of four, I didn't. Otherwise I would have told them I would rather be at Harrow.

I'm guessing the young man is early 20s

He knows everything about everything, so surely, by the age of 13 he knew that private education was wrong, wrong, wrong..told mater and pater he didn't want to go, but they forced him

Or something like that

[Lord Kangana]

You'd prefer it if he just said he was superior to you for having gone to a private school? You've a hell of a chip on your shoulder about this, haven't you?

Isn't this the fcuking angry thread?



FWIW, I'm a strong supporter of private education - but not BS as that turns out way more than its share of wankers (and they didn't offer me a free place so they can fcuk right off)

Just can't do with the folk who go, get the benefits, then spout bollocks about how great socialism is

All while quaffing on their Pomagne

If you really want me to go to town on this, perhaps you could explain how the country that produces pomagne and indeed champagne is one of the most socialist in Europe. Indeed, the democratization of food was one of the central themes of revolution to produce Liberte Egalite Fraternite. Perhaps next time you try and dismiss good food or drink as being effette, you'll pause for thought that in a much more socialist country than this it is seen as neither. I fear I'm wasting my time here, but have you ever thought of the irony in condemning those who would make all things better through the criticism of their taste for better things?

[Prufrock]

It's the most pish of all pish arguments. I know I was priveleged, and as such I feel a responsibility to contribute to help people who weren't.

Mighty fine words

But actions, what actions?

How are you going to contribute?

At what age did you see the light?

Or maybe you just went so you'd be able to 'contribute to help people who weren't'

Do you know how twattish that sounds?

As others have alluded to, when the decision for me to go to Bolton School was made, I was ten. As it happens I did want to go, mainly because I thought the building was cool, and because my dad went (incidentally on a full scholarship). If you'd asked me then my views on private education I'd probably have have mentioned how I was still sonfused how public school didn't mean state school, and asked you who your favourite power ranger was. I never said I went to that school so I'd be able to contribute to folk who weren't priveleged, just that I now appreciate people who did have that oppurtunity should contribute more to a society that has given them that oppurtunity. What would have been twatish would have been if I'd said I deserved that oppurtunity coz daddy earned more than someone else's daddy.

I assume with your initial comment (which to be fair is on the angry thread, and was quite amusing, even if I disagree with the argument as a serious one) you were at least partly referring to me when you mentioned 'priveleged people'; again it would be rather twatish of me to try to deny it. As I said before my dad went on a full scholarship, and my cousin got a place, but couldn't go because his family couldn't afford it. We're quite a close family so in that respect I know I am very lucky, and don't see why it is twatish to argue I believe people who gain advantage from that fortune should pay more back to society.

As for actions, I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to do at 21 living off a student load other than use my vote next week to try to keep out a party who in my view want to make an already uneven playing field more uneven.

[CAPSLOCK]

I fear I'm wasting my time here, but have you ever thought of the irony in condemning those who would make all things better through the criticism of their taste for better things?

No

[thebish]

I'm guessing the young man is early 20s

He knows everything about everything, so surely, by the age of 13 he knew that private education was wrong, wrong, wrong..told mater and pater he didn't want to go, but they forced him

Or something like that

a lot of guessing going on there - to no obvious purpose except perhaps a bit of sniggering at Pru's expense, and no arguments carried forward in any meaningful sense. bit of a chipped shoulder being shown and a good dose of inverse snobbery...

pathetic....

[TANGODANCER]

There are two factions in the country today who make it easy to define right and wrong: Those who work, pay tax and insurance (and have done all their working lives-my case and millions of others), the contibutors, and those who just take, contribute nothing and whine about not getting more.( I'm not talking unfotunates who, through no fault of their own are unable to have the choice, but those who live off the efforts of others and those making a living through crime.) One day, hopefully, we'll have a government capable of identifying the difference and doing something about it other than make the country a laughing stock and the Eldorado of the pxss-takers.

[CAPSLOCK]

don't see why it is twatish to argue I believe people who gain advantage from that fortune should pay more back to society.

As for actions, I'm not entirely sure what I'm supposed to do at 21 living off a student load other than use my vote next week to try to keep out a party who in my view want to make an already uneven playing field more uneven.

Thanks for the explanation

The 'twattish' was the bit about the 'responsibility' you now feel - it just 'felt' so urgh, and I'm sure you didn't mean it in that way

Seeing as there's not much you can do for now, have you thought about what you may do in the future

[CAPSLOCK]

I'm guessing the young man is early 20s

He knows everything about everything, so surely, by the age of 13 he knew that private education was wrong, wrong, wrong..told mater and pater he didn't want to go, but they forced him

Or something like that

a lot of guessing going on there - to no obvious purpose except perhaps a bit of sniggering at Pru's expense, and no arguments carried forward in any meaningful sense. bit of a chipped shoulder being shown and a good dose of inverse snobbery...

pathetic....

Sorry, hadn't read the rules

Maybe you've just made them up

[thebish]

I'm guessing the young man is early 20s

He knows everything about everything, so surely, by the age of 13 he knew that private education was wrong, wrong, wrong..told mater and pater he didn't want to go, but they forced him

Or something like that

a lot of guessing going on there - to no obvious purpose except perhaps a bit of sniggering at Pru's expense, and no arguments carried forward in any meaningful sense. bit of a chipped shoulder being shown and a good dose of inverse snobbery...

pathetic....

Sorry, hadn't read the rules

Maybe you've just made them up

apology accepted.

[CAPSLOCK]

There are two factions in the country today who make it easy to define right and wrong: Those who work, pay tax and insurance (and have done all their working lives-my case and millions of others), the contibutors, and those who just take, contribute nothing and whine about not getting more.( I'm not talking unfotunates who, through no fault of their own are unable to have the choice, but those who live off the efforts of others and those making a living through crime.) One day, hopefully, we'll have a government capable of identifying the difference and doing something about it other than make the country a laughing stock and the Eldorado of the pxss-takers.

And I'm fcuked if I'm happy 'helping' them

Probably makes me a 'Daily Mail' reader

[William the White]

There are two factions in the country today who make it easy to define right and wrong: Those who work, pay tax and insurance (and have done all their working lives-my case and millions of others), the contibutors, and those who just take, contribute nothing and whine about not getting more.( I'm not talking unfotunates who, through no fault of their own are unable to have the choice, but those who live off the efforts of others and those making a living through crime.) One day, hopefully, we'll have a government capable of identifying the difference and doing something about it other than make the country a laughing stock and the Eldorado of the pxss-takers.

This is just some daft, thoughtless rant, isn't it? The country isn't threatened by some mythical millions of criminals and scroungers.

It's actually threatened by a party aiming to increase mass unemployment, hit public services and goive the richest 3000 in the country a kiss on all four cheeks.

[William the White]

You'd prefer it if he just said he was superior to you for having gone to a private school? You've a hell of a chip on your shoulder about this, haven't you?

Isn't this the fcuking angry thread?



FWIW, I'm a strong supporter of private education - but not BS as that turns out way more than its share of wankers (and they didn't offer me a free place so they can fcuk right off)

Just can't do with the folk who go, get the benefits, then spout bollocks about how great socialism is

All while quaffing on their Pomagne

I went to Bolton School, but I really hated it, and they kicked me out (to be accurate they wrote to my father one summer holiday to say they would not allow me to return - did my A levels at bolton tech).

I don't drink pomagne.

Am i allowed to be a socialist?

I mean I don't try to stop you spouting bollocks.

[CAPSLOCK]

Go on, what did you do?