The Great Art Debate

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

For those interested in thinking about art... the fabulous Grayson Perry is doing the BBC Reith Lectures this year - starts tomorrow - is bound to be interesting and entertaining!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00729d9

Did you listen to these, Bish?

I have had them on during my commute these last couple of days and thought they were excellent.

[thebish]

For those interested in thinking about art... the fabulous Grayson Perry is doing the BBC Reith Lectures this year - starts tomorrow - is bound to be interesting and entertaining!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00729d9

Did you listen to these, Bish?

I have had them on during my commute these last couple of days and thought they were excellent.

haven't caught the last one yet - but really enjoyed the others... i love most things he presents - i think i started a mini discussion on a TV show he did a couple of years ago...

i haven't been aware of him for very long - my missus first pointed his work out - and the first time she said it I heard "Grace and Perry" - I thought it was a double act and was under this misapprehension for several months..

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I didn't see that programme at the time. I wonder if it's still online somewhere.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Grayson Perry. Is he the tranny with a Teddy Bear fetish who does pots?
If Carling did transvestites...

[bobo the clown]

Grayson Perry. Is he the tranny with a Teddy Bear fetish who does pots?

If Carling did transvestites...

Sensitively handled Spotty.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Grayson Perry. Is he the tranny with a Teddy Bear fetish who does pots?

If Carling did transvestites...

Sensitively handled Spotty.

I've got nowt against transvestites. In another life I might have been one. Also I've got a bit of a teddy bear fetish myself. Feckin' potters though - can't they do 'proper' art?

[Bruce Rioja]

I've got nowt against transvestites.

I find it absolutely impossible to feel comfortable if ever in their company.

[thebish]

I've got nowt against transvestites.

I find it absolutely impossible to feel comfortable if ever in their company.

hmmmmm.....

[Bruce Rioja]

I've got nowt against transvestites.

I find it absolutely impossible to feel comfortable if ever in their company.

hmmmmm.....

It's true. I don't know why. I'm fine in the company of anyone else.

[William the White]

Grayson Perry. Is he the tranny with a Teddy Bear fetish who does pots?

If Carling did transvestites...

Sensitively handled Spotty.

I've got nowt against transvestites. In another life I might have been one. Also I've got a bit of a teddy bear fetish myself. Feckin' potters though - can't they do 'proper' art?

I know - people will be writing odes to urns next if we don't put a stop to it...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Grayson Perry. Is he the tranny with a Teddy Bear fetish who does pots?

If Carling did transvestites...

Sensitively handled Spotty.

I've got nowt against transvestites. In another life I might have been one. Also I've got a bit of a teddy bear fetish myself. Feckin' potters though - can't they do 'proper' art?

I know - people will be writing odes to urns next if we don't put a stop to it...

Craftsmen making Grecian urns were not only acceptable but necessary for the advancement of civilization. Poets celebrating Grecian urns are acceptable. But Artists messing about with clay, pah! You'll be telling me that Morph is an art form next

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I've got nowt against transvestites.

I find it absolutely impossible to feel comfortable if ever in their company.

hmmmmm.....

It's true. I don't know why. I'm fine in the company of anyone else.

It doesn't bother me... whatever people have to do to get through the day.

Anyway... Grayson just sounds like a bloke on a podcast.

[William the White]

I presumed that the Grayson Perry exhibition in Mancland would be ceramics. Wrongly.

It's a tapestry response to Hogarth (to hark back to a previous discussion on this thread)...

http://www.manchestergalleries.org/what ... itemID=109" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Will catch and report thereon...

[Il Pirate]

I've got nowt against transvestites.

I find it absolutely impossible to feel comfortable if ever in their company.

hmmmmm.....

It's true. I don't know why. I'm fine in the company of anyone else.

Just get yerself that outfit Bruce. You know you would feel a whole lot better................But not the fishnets. They're just tarty

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I presumed that the Grayson Perry exhibition in Mancland would be ceramics. Wrongly.

It's a tapestry response to Hogarth (to hark back to a previous discussion on this thread)...

http://www.manchestergalleries.org/what ... itemID=109" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Will catch and report thereon...

Ah, are they still doing the rounds?

I saw them at the Royal Academy in the summer... I think it's a nice idea to tell a Hogarthian story of modern Britain via an old craft-based medium more associated with palaces, the Sistine Chapel, and stately homes... but it's not done as well as it might be. In Hogarth's stories, there is always a clear continuity of characters and narrative, but I don't think that is true of the Vanities tapestries.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I presumed that the Grayson Perry exhibition in Mancland would be ceramics. Wrongly.

It's a tapestry response to Hogarth (to hark back to a previous discussion on this thread)...

http://www.manchestergalleries.org/what ... itemID=109" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Will catch and report thereon...

Ah, are they still doing the rounds?

I saw them at the Royal Academy in the summer... I think it's a nice idea to tell a Hogarthian story of modern Britain via an old craft-based medium more associated with palaces, the Sistine Chapel, and stately homes... but it's not done as well as it might be. In Hogarth's stories, there is always a clear continuity of characters and narrative, but I don't think that is true of the Vanities tapestries.

Writing this post made me seek out the documentary Bish had spoken of, as my girlfriend was out gigging and I was home alone.

As it happens, the programme was about the making of these very tapestries and I now feel embarrassed about what I wrote earlier.

I saw them in the context of a much bigger exhibition of other things, where I was also in the company of other people, meaning I couldn't linger too much in front of anything.

The upshot of this is that I now know I didn't give them enough time and would really like to see them again.

Will - I don't know whether it's better to leave this until after you have seen them fresh, but you have to watch this three-part documentary at some point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyjM7Y4R_LQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A fascinating and incisive portrait of England today.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

I know a few of you, like me, like a bit of urban exploration.

This is a great set of photos: http://www.viralnova.com/urban-explorer/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[thebish]

I know a few of you, like me, like a bit of urban exploration.

This is a great set of photos: http://www.viralnova.com/urban-explorer/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

just spotted them on fb... there's a lot of this stuff around - these are some of the plusher places that people go!! all those photos (to my tastes) are a little overdone on the HDR - but i am always fascinated by photos of abandoned places...

over here in the UK - lots of them are in old asylums and hospitals - the asylums are the creepiest...

[William the White]

I know a few of you, like me, like a bit of urban exploration.

This is a great set of photos: http://www.viralnova.com/urban-explorer/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Amazed and intrigued. Great selection.

[TANGODANCER]

over here in the UK - lots of them are in old asylums and hospitals - the asylums are the creepiest...

I used to be a security guard way back. We had to do twelve hour shifts for seven nights in some real creepy places. The creepiest was an old, abandoned convent down the side of Salford Royal Hospital. It was generally accapted that bottle went at shift end when you were tired and twitchy. By the seventh night in there nobody had any bottle left. One spooky place.