Here we go (aka UK riots thread)

[Harry Genshaw]

Caught a bit of Talk shite on the way home tonight. For onceI had to agree with the Presenters. If we have to cancel any Prem games this weekend, our ability to hold the Olympics will be open to question.

If, as Dave says "The fightback starts here" then we need to see some evidence and start going about our business as normal - no matter what the financial cost of Policing is in the short term.

[Hoboh]

Caught a bit of Talk shite on the way home tonight. For onceI had to agree with the Presenters. If we have to cancel any Prem games this weekend, our ability to hold the Olympics will be open to question.

If, as Dave says "The fightback starts here" then we need to see some evidence and start going about our business as normal - no matter what the financial cost of Policing is in the short term.

Ah well if we can flogg the stadiums and keep peoples hotel deposits it may be no bad thing after all

[superjohnmcginlay]

'Owt happening tonight then? Or is it a bit wet?

[Worthy4England]

'Owt happening tonight then? Or is it a bit wet?

feck no. Don't want to get my new trainers wet.

[Hoboh]

'Owt happening tonight then? Or is it a bit wet?

Too wet mate plus all the local mobsters whose bussiness they've been disrupting have got them by the short n curlys

[Wandering Willy]

I've got 3 night's worth of homework to catch up on.

Don't want a detention.

[William the White]

I've been away for a few days watching all this lot on sky news and its sickening!!! All the pillocks with the usual crap about "poor dears" having "feck all going for them" should be lined up first on the wall, these knobs know whats right and wrong and chose to ignore it.
The streets should be taken back by the army, five mins to disperse and feck off home or shoot the bastards, an 11 year old rioter is a rioter and should treated as such! Looters should be shot on sight any dick that thinks its funny to shoot back should get an rpg up his/her arse. Local people should be encouraged to use whatever means to defend their lives/propertys. now is the time to teach the half wits once and for all! come on you political arse wipes grow a pair! Martial law!

if you fire RPGs at looters (who are presumably looting someone's business) - then what's the point of encouraging locals to defend their property?? you would blown it to buggery with your rockets...

Not at "looters" but knobs who shoot at the authorities!
The time has come to show the lawless ones that most folk for better or the worse off want to live their lives and improve their lot not have a bunch of dicks destroy everything. If we have to kill a few in the process so be it, a lack of real consequences for the idiots is coming home to roost. Shoot them, hang them, flogg them, take your pick, a mans right to live and earn in peace is priority number one scum and human rights knobs who don't like it? tough!

I'd been concerned about your absence from the debate so far, since this is obviously a fantastic opportunity for some real, foaming at the mouth, cider-fueled insanity. I thought you must have been taken ill, or had imploded entirely. But here you are, at last, and really on your game. Welcome back, hoboh, and keep it up!

[Hoboh]

I've been away for a few days watching all this lot on sky news and its sickening!!! All the pillocks with the usual crap about "poor dears" having "feck all going for them" should be lined up first on the wall, these knobs know whats right and wrong and chose to ignore it.
The streets should be taken back by the army, five mins to disperse and feck off home or shoot the bastards, an 11 year old rioter is a rioter and should treated as such! Looters should be shot on sight any dick that thinks its funny to shoot back should get an rpg up his/her arse. Local people should be encouraged to use whatever means to defend their lives/propertys. now is the time to teach the half wits once and for all! come on you political arse wipes grow a pair! Martial law!

if you fire RPGs at looters (who are presumably looting someone's business) - then what's the point of encouraging locals to defend their property?? you would blown it to buggery with your rockets...

Not at "looters" but knobs who shoot at the authorities!
The time has come to show the lawless ones that most folk for better or the worse off want to live their lives and improve their lot not have a bunch of dicks destroy everything. If we have to kill a few in the process so be it, a lack of real consequences for the idiots is coming home to roost. Shoot them, hang them, flogg them, take your pick, a mans right to live and earn in peace is priority number one scum and human rights knobs who don't like it? tough!

I'd been concerned about your absence from the debate so far, since this is obviously a fantastic opportunity for some real, foaming at the mouth, cider-fueled insanity. I thought you must have been taken ill, or had imploded entirely. But here you are, at last, and really on your game. Welcome back, hoboh, and keep it up!

Thanks William, I take a few days off and the place goes to pot!

[Verbal]

I've been away for a few days watching all this lot on sky news and its sickening!!! All the pillocks with the usual crap about "poor dears" having "feck all going for them" should be lined up first on the wall, these knobs know whats right and wrong and chose to ignore it.
The streets should be taken back by the army, five mins to disperse and feck off home or shoot the bastards, an 11 year old rioter is a rioter and should treated as such! Looters should be shot on sight any dick that thinks its funny to shoot back should get an rpg up his/her arse. Local people should be encouraged to use whatever means to defend their lives/propertys. now is the time to teach the half wits once and for all! come on you political arse wipes grow a pair! Martial law!

Four days.

Delivered.

[Prufrock]

I'd be very wary before using water cannon (like how somebody at the beeb has had a word and they all now use a really stilted 'cannon' as they try to stop themselves saying an 's'), rubber bullets and the like. We don't want Friday nights to become like Madrid, or the police get used to using tear gas all the time (went on the may day march in Paris, not against anything, just a sort of walk along party, and they released tear gas at place de la bastille just coz they wanted to shift a few folk. Was horrible.). Those sort of measures should always be considered a very last resort, and only when all other options have failed. We may well be getting to that point. Not sure about rubber bullets, but water cannon and tear gas might be useful short term solutions. As long as it was temporary then banning hoodies and masks and the like I don't think would be unreasonable. Hopefully regaining control and locking some people up wont be the end of it though, I hope the valid protests people had before the knobhead chancers rocked up aren't dismissed.

Been far too many it'd be tempting to give a good lamping to on the news. Folk talking about how nicking a new 42" telly or trashing the local grocery shop was sticking it to the police. Do feck off.

[TANGODANCER]

One absolute brainless loon interviewed on TV:

"Let's have a riot,yeah. Blame them, taking our jobs and stopping us from getting jobs"

"And what good will smashing and looting shops do?"

"Up to them innit"


.....Make sense of it if you can.?

[Bruce Rioja]

One absolute brainless loon interviewed on TV:

"Let's have a riot,yeah. Blame them, taking our jobs and stopping us from getting jobs"

"And what good will smashing and looting shops do?"

"Up to them innit"


.....Make sense of it if you can.?

It wasn't Liam Gallagher being interviewed was it, Tango?

[hisroyalgingerness]

Great solution cited by one yob.

"Build youth centres, and stop giving them to rich folk."

Aye, rich folk do nowt but knock about youth centres

[TANGODANCER]

One absolute brainless loon interviewed on TV:

"Let's have a riot,yeah. Blame them, taking our jobs and stopping us from getting jobs"

"And what good will smashing and looting shops do?"

"Up to them innit"


.....Make sense of it if you can.?

It wasn't Liam Gallagher being interviewed was it, Tango?

Now you mention it, he did look a bit like...........

[Lord Kangana]

The problem is Tango, as unpalatable as this is, if you criminalise hundreds, if not thousands, of these people/morons (and therefore the added consequences on your employment prospects etc) this will just happen again.

I don't have the answer by the way. But someones going to have to come with some very clever way of dealing with this. Cleverer than just "we'll arrest them and it'll all go away" anyway.

I agree, criminalising these people is not the answer.

They should have just given them a good fooking kicking and had done. Scrotes.

I reckon they'll get Hazel Blears on the case.

She'll just make them all give the stuff back and it'll be alright.

[Worthy4England]

The problem is Tango, as unpalatable as this is, if you criminalise hundreds, if not thousands, of these people/morons (and therefore the added consequences on your employment prospects etc) this will just happen again.

I don't have the answer by the way. But someones going to have to come with some very clever way of dealing with this. Cleverer than just "we'll arrest them and it'll all go away" anyway.

I agree, criminalising these people is not the answer.

They should have just given them a good fooking kicking and had done. Scrotes.

I reckon they'll get Hazel Blears on the case.

She'll just make them all give the stuff back and it'll be alright.

[TANGODANCER]

Unless we're seen to be stamping down on all this we're really going to be seen as a soft touch.
It's all a bit like the Vikings landing again; drunkenness, burning and looting and five dead so far.
Enough has to be too much. Get it sorted by whatever means.

[Wandering Willy]

Unless we're seen to be stamping down on all this we're really going to be seen as a soft touch.
It's all a bit like the Vikings landing again; drunkenness, burning and looting and five dead so far.
Enough has to be too much. Get it sorted by whatever means.

Hoboh'l love it.

[thebish]

compare and contrast.....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011 ... NTCMP=SRCH

'An excessive sense of entitlement" was what the mayor of London ascribed to those looting their way across our sceptred isle – but he could have been referring to himself. In the mid-to-late 80s, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson – not to mention David Cameron and his now chancellor George Osborne – were members of the notorious Bullingdon Club, the Oxford university "dining" clique that smashed their way through restaurant crockery, car windscreens and antique violins all over the city of knowledge.

Not unlike a certain section of today's youth, the "Bullers" have little regard for property. Prospective members often have their rooms trashed by their new-found friends, while the club has a reputation for ritualistic plate-smashing at unsuspecting country pubs. It has been banned from several establishments, while contemporary Bullers are said to chant, at all hours: "Buller, Buller, Buller! Buller, Buller, Buller! We are the famous Bullingdon Club, and we don't give a feck!"

"This behaviour was criminal behaviour," said Johnson of the recent riots – but in the past his attitude to vandalism has been more nuanced. In his and Cameron's day, the Bullingdon was most notorious for heaving a weighty flowerpot through the window of a distinguished Oxford eaterie. Cameron, it is said, had already left the scene, but Johnson was so proud that for a time he claimed he was arrested for his part in these exploits. In fact, he simply hid in the shrubbery at the city's botanical gardens. Lucky there were no 24-hour magistrates' courts in those days.

[Lord Kangana]

But we already know all that.

Nobody gives a f*ck anymore, top to bottom. Everyone's in it for what they can get.

Papers, police, politicians, bankers, pissheads wrecking town centres at weekends. Its nothing new.