bloody norah... :-(

[Bruce Rioja]

Went down the beach yesterday. There were a bunch of Asians (which seems to be a popular description on these pages) picking oysters (commercially). I approached them, and assuming they were of Laos descent greeted them in Laos. Being correct, I then asked in Thai if I could have a few for dinner. They had big smiles and gave me some oysters of which I did not have to shell out anything other than a thank you. Moral to this stupid story, quit referring them them as a group of Asians and have the balls to be more specific.

Blimey. Fancy going to the bother of learning Thai just to ponce a few oysters?!

“From the oyster to the eagle, from the swine to the tiger, all animals are to be found in men and each of them exists in some man, sometimes several at the time. Animals are nothing but the portrayal of our virtues and vices made manifest to our eyes, the visible reflections of our souls. God displays them to us to give us food for thought.”

Victor Hugo

Well I hope that Victor Hugo carried a bottle of Tabasco around with him.

[Hoboh]

I agree but they banned it so as not to upset non Brits.
It was banned on racial grounds.
This is my point.
I am being accused of posting rubbish because people think that this type of thing hasnt happened.
I am just pointing out that there have been other instances of this happening.
Just giving an example thats all.

what is at issue is that you said YOU were banned from flying the flag. Simply, you aren't.

It could just be the collective use of the term you know Rev. Which, of course you know, but you wouldn't be able to pick on him so if you viewed it that way.

There is NOT such a law, I do doubt if Davroduk has been specifically and directly banned, personally.

But that there are numpties who have made high-handed and perverse decisions, imposing their own weird misinterpretations .... & quite regularly ... is correct. This adds to suspicions and fears and misunderstandings.

Or have I misplaced a word somewhere in all that ?

you have misplaced something, possibly your brain! given that he wrote "I am now banned from flying the flag of St George because it may offend Muslims."

try as I might I can't see any "collective use" sense in that...

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

[davroduk]

Thought I had drawn a line under this hours ago.
My mistake was to say "I am" when I should have said "we are"
Now can we all move on and discuss something else.

The Bible is just a Fairy Tale !!!!!!!
Right now lets lock horns over that one !!!!

[thebish]

Thought I had drawn a line under this hours ago.
My mistake was to say "I am" when I should have said "we are"

except that "we are banned from flying the St George cross" is equally wrong. you're not banned and neither am I - nor is anyone on this Forum.

[William the White]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

[thebish]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

no - but it does mean Bobo will be along soon to say you are just being picky!

[davroduk]

Thought I had drawn a line under this hours ago.
My mistake was to say "I am" when I should have said "we are"

except that "we are banned from flying the St George cross" is equally wrong. you're not banned and neither am I - nor is anyone on this Forum.

Jesus Christ you are like a dog with a bone.
Let it go and move on.

[Bruce Rioja]

Someone's set it to music

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[William the White]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

no - but it does mean Bobo will be along soon to say you are just being picky!

I know - and he's the pickiest bastard going... I mean, I like more things on rainy Wednesday mornings than he does per thousand posts... and he's feckin immortal!

[Worthy4England]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

no - but it does mean Bobo will be along soon to say you are just being picky!

I know - and he's the pickiest bastard going... I mean, I like more things on rainy Wednesday mornings than he does per thousand posts... and he's feckin immortal!

HA! Liberal Wets.

[thebish]

meanwhile those bloody politically correct "Help For Heroes" guys...

The Help for Heroes charity has said it will not accept money raised by English Defence League (EDL) leader Tommy Robinson.

A Just Giving website page which Mr Robinson, who also uses the name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, set up after last week's murder of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich was shut down after talks between administrators and the forces charity.

Before it was closed down more than £3,300 had been pledged to the EDL leader, who said he was planning a 17-mile sponsored walk from Westminster to the scene of the killing "to lay a wreath in support of our troops".

A Help for Heroes spokesman said: "He's the only one that's come to our attention but tonight we'll be doing a cross-count to make sure that anyone else that's saying they're EDL will not be allowed to fundraise for us. "It's the same for any political party, we don't allow political fundraising. As a charity, we're non-political."

The charity said that all donations would be refunded.

On Twitter, Mr Robinson denied that the EDL were a political party and said he was "really gutted".

"Shocked that political correctness has even gripped our armed forces charity. Amazed that a charity rejects a potential 100g," he wrote.

He said he still planned to complete his walk across London.

[Hoboh]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

I would never consider you a 'Nazi' William but you must feel uncomfortable with some of your 'left wing' bed fellows in much the same way I do with the likes of the EDL etc.
Debate is fine, the 'We know what's best PC brigade with their anti debate thugs on the left and the right wing knobbers like the EDL, although they both hold opposing views, are merely a cigarette paper away from each others methods in stopping this.

[BWFC_Insane]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

I would never consider you a 'Nazi' William but you must feel uncomfortable with some of your 'left wing' bed fellows in much the same way I do with the likes of the EDL etc.
Debate is fine the 'We know what's best PC brigade with their anti debate thugs on the left and the right wing knobbers like the EDL, although they both hold opposing views, are merely a cigarette paper away from each others methods.

Seriously, who are these people? I've never come across them in society. I've never met anyone who's threatened me to be "more PC". I've never seen a "PC thug".

This is a genuine question. I've met people who want to abide by rules and sometimes get things out of proportion.

But like health and safety, political correctness in itself is a GOOD thing. It's essentially about being nice and decent to other people and respecting other people's belief systems. That is only a good thing. So yes sometimes people get a bit carried away. As they do with all things. But those people have the interests of others at heart, essentially.

What I have met is an awful lot, and I mean an absolute load of what I will call the "I'm not racist but......." brigade. Even on here there seems to be a few in that bracket.

[bobo the clown]

.... it does mean Bobo will be along soon to say you are just being picky!

I know - and he's the pickiest bastard going... I mean, I like more things on rainy Wednesday mornings than he does per thousand posts... and he's feckin immortal!

I "like" being grumpy.

... & not just on Wednesday mornings.

[Hoboh]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

I would never consider you a 'Nazi' William but you must feel uncomfortable with some of your 'left wing' bed fellows in much the same way I do with the likes of the EDL etc.
Debate is fine the 'We know what's best PC brigade with their anti debate thugs on the left and the right wing knobbers like the EDL, although they both hold opposing views, are merely a cigarette paper away from each others methods.

Seriously, who are these people? I've never come across them in society. I've never met anyone who's threatened me to be "more PC". I've never seen a "PC thug".

This is a genuine question. I've met people who want to abide by rules and sometimes get things out of proportion.

But like health and safety, political correctness in itself is a GOOD thing. It's essentially about being nice and decent to other people and respecting other people's belief systems. That is only a good thing. So yes sometimes people get a bit carried away. As they do with all things. But those people have the interests of others at heart, essentially.

What I have met is an awful lot, and I mean an absolute load of what I will call the "I'm not racist but......." brigade. Even on here there seems to be a few in that bracket.

Yeah imposing the views of a few on the many, very democratic! Just like the other love of your life the Trade Unions became until legislation had to be brought in to sort them out.
BTW left wing thugs turn out in force complete with crash helmets and masks on a regular basis whenever the right wing tools of the EDL march then start branding anyone who would debate issues as racist, much as you just did above.

What I have met is an awful lot, and I mean an absolute load of what I will call the "I'm not racist but......." brigade. Even on here there seems to be a few in that bracket

I think most of these 'type of people' are just sick to death of the extremists stirring up problems then knights in shining armour turning up to defend their 'Human Rights'.
Get shut of these then we can deal with the real racists.

[Hoboh]

just realised perhaps 'knights in shining armour' is not very PC, I do apologise for any offence I may have caused by relating to something historical.

[BWFC_Insane]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

It IS allowed to fly everywhere. No laws have been passed to ban it. your auntie hasn't been prosecuted. The Red Cross still gets my £5 a month donation. So you have no problem there.

Why should it not be allowed to question? Questions are good. Debate is good. As far as I'm concerned nothing is beyond debate. The existence of the Flat Earth Society is definitive proof of this.

[Does posting this make me a 'left wing Nazi'?]

I would never consider you a 'Nazi' William but you must feel uncomfortable with some of your 'left wing' bed fellows in much the same way I do with the likes of the EDL etc.
Debate is fine the 'We know what's best PC brigade with their anti debate thugs on the left and the right wing knobbers like the EDL, although they both hold opposing views, are merely a cigarette paper away from each others methods.

Seriously, who are these people? I've never come across them in society. I've never met anyone who's threatened me to be "more PC". I've never seen a "PC thug".

This is a genuine question. I've met people who want to abide by rules and sometimes get things out of proportion.

But like health and safety, political correctness in itself is a GOOD thing. It's essentially about being nice and decent to other people and respecting other people's belief systems. That is only a good thing. So yes sometimes people get a bit carried away. As they do with all things. But those people have the interests of others at heart, essentially.

What I have met is an awful lot, and I mean an absolute load of what I will call the "I'm not racist but......." brigade. Even on here there seems to be a few in that bracket.

Yeah imposing the views of a few on the many, very democratic! Just like the other love of your life the Trade Unions became until legislation had to be brought in to sort them out.
BTW left wing thugs turn out in force complete with crash helmets and masks on a regular basis whenever the right wing tools of the EDL march then start branding anyone who would debate issues as racist, much as you just did above.

What I have met is an awful lot, and I mean an absolute load of what I will call the "I'm not racist but......." brigade. Even on here there seems to be a few in that bracket

I think most of these 'type of people' are just sick to death of the extremists stirring up problems then knights in shining armour turning up to defend their 'Human Rights'.
Get shut of these then we can deal with the real racists.

The what now? Lets be clear, political correctness (which is a bad phrase) but anyhow, is about not using language that others might find offensive.

It has nothing to do with imposing views on anyone. It's about being nice, having some empathy and generally encouraging people to be decent human beings.

That is not a bad thing. It's about language and choice of words. I'm struggling to see anything that imposes views on anyone. It's now not acceptable to call someone a name because of the colour of their skin, or their race or their religion or for example cal the large kids "fatty" or whatever. Tell me HOW that is in any way a bad thing? It isn't. Sure some people will naturally take it too far, just as some people will broadly ignore it.

You seem to have a very strong us and "them" mentality where you feel the need to label people as being left or right of centre. That is not my experience of life. Most people are just trying to get by. You seem very interested in fights. I've not studied the movements of the EDL closely. What I have seen on the TV seems to be that they are indeed the ones who come out "looking for it" as they themselves seem to indicate when intereviewed. But I've no interest in discussing the actions of a few violent nutters whatever cause they pretend to be about.

There is no "us and them". We are all people. Perhaps that is the message that needs spreading. We all share the earth. Every single race, religion, sect, group, country is as bad and good as the next. Nobody is better, nobody is superior and everyone should fecking get along and share.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

There is no "us and them". We are all people. Perhaps that is the message that needs spreading. We all share the earth. Every single race, religion, sect, group, country is as bad and good as the next. Nobody is better, nobody is superior and everyone should fecking get along and share.

Maybe you could start your own religion. Do you really think, for example, that Pol Pot's Kampuchea wasn't inferior to virtually every other country that has existed on the planet. You really think that the Khmer Rouge's principals and actions were neither as bad nor as good as the next?

[Lord Kangana]

I would confiscate the St George flag from right wing nationalists who use it to provoke the Anti Nazi, Nazi league but other than that it should be allowed to fly unquestioned anywhere else in this country

I'm not entirely sure that Nazis fly flags simply to piss anti-Nazis off. I stand to be disabused of sensibilities, no doubt.

[thebish]

in the midst of all that, this is a nice story...

http://m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/27/ ... a-biscuits