Today I'm neither Angry nor Happy about....

[Bruce Rioja]

What is it that the Kardashians are actually famous for (Other than for the females having arses bigger than Wigan) ?

[Bruce Rioja]

Today, by the way, I'm neither angry nor happy about it being 32 years to the day since I left school.

[TANGODANCER]

Today, by the way, I'm neither angry nor happy about it being 32 years to the day since I left school.

Leaving school? Not sure what day it was, Friday most likely, but I can remember being told "talk amongst yourselves" ( they used to say things like that) while the teacher unpacked the free coronation mugs. Not sure how many got home unbroken, if at all.

[Dujon]

I suspect, bobo, that your son has the patience of Job and has many a tale to tell of the stupidity of some in our communities. From experience I recommend any one of you with an hour or two to spare to pop into the local courthouse and sit and listen to what goes on. You just might get an inkling as to the stupidity of some of our fellow men.

Last week we had a case where an Ontario judge failed to show the patience of Job and allowed his feelings about plaintiff and defendant to creep onto his judgement.It is well worth a read.

It was well worth the time, Monty; is it real? If so then I "tips me 'at" to the judge/magistrate.

[Montreal Wanderer]

I suspect, bobo, that your son has the patience of Job and has many a tale to tell of the stupidity of some in our communities. From experience I recommend any one of you with an hour or two to spare to pop into the local courthouse and sit and listen to what goes on. You just might get an inkling as to the stupidity of some of our fellow men.

Last week we had a case where an Ontario judge failed to show the patience of Job and allowed his feelings about plaintiff and defendant to creep onto his judgement.It is well worth a read.

It was well worth the time, Monty; is it real? If so then I "tips me 'at" to the judge/magistrate.

Oh, it was real all right. They don't put spoofs in the website I linked to - that's the actual judgment. You can see the press reports in the Toronto Star and the National Post.

[Bruce Rioja]

I suspect, bobo, that your son has the patience of Job and has many a tale to tell of the stupidity of some in our communities. From experience I recommend any one of you with an hour or two to spare to pop into the local courthouse and sit and listen to what goes on. You just might get an inkling as to the stupidity of some of our fellow men.

Last week we had a case where an Ontario judge failed to show the patience of Job and allowed his feelings about plaintiff and defendant to creep onto his judgement.It is well worth a read.

It was well worth the time, Monty; is it real? If so then I "tips me 'at" to the judge/magistrate.

Oh, it was real all right. They don't put spoofs in the website I linked to - that's the actual judgment. You can see the press reports in the Toronto Star and the National Post.

The bit I don't get, Monty, is this: ' There will be no costs order. Each side deserves to bear its own costs'. How come costs weren't ordered against the Plaintiff for having the temerity to haul such a complete and utter load of bollocks before the court in the first place?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I suspect, bobo, that your son has the patience of Job and has many a tale to tell of the stupidity of some in our communities. From experience I recommend any one of you with an hour or two to spare to pop into the local courthouse and sit and listen to what goes on. You just might get an inkling as to the stupidity of some of our fellow men.

Last week we had a case where an Ontario judge failed to show the patience of Job and allowed his feelings about plaintiff and defendant to creep onto his judgement.It is well worth a read.

It was well worth the time, Monty; is it real? If so then I "tips me 'at" to the judge/magistrate.

Oh, it was real all right. They don't put spoofs in the website I linked to - that's the actual judgment. You can see the press reports in the Toronto Star and the National Post.

The bit I don't get, Monty, is this: ' There will be no costs order. Each side deserves to bear its own costs'. How come costs weren't ordered against the Plaintiff for having the temerity to haul such a complete and utter load of bollocks before the court in the first place?

Because he thinks the Defendents are as equal knobs as the Plaintiffs.

[Bruce Rioja]

Because he thinks the Defendents are as equal knobs as the Plaintiffs.

I get that - but they didn't bring the case.

[Prufrock]

Dunno about Canada, but it's very rare here for you to get costs in the small claims court (and those you can get I think are v limited). You'll get expenses for any time of work probably but not much more. Think part of the idea is to stop people being able to bully those with little resources into collapsing because they can't afford to risk going to court and losing.

Does seem a tad harsh there in that, although they were clearly cocks too, they weren't quite cockish enough to fecking go to court. I don't know how that even got through the door without a proper 'reason' for issuing it though.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Because he thinks the Defendents are as equal knobs as the Plaintiffs.

I get that - but they didn't bring the case.

The litigation is ongoing, it hasn't ended here. I think the judge was making a point not only to both Litigants and Defendents but also to counsel and future judges that the case is a waste of time and should stop right now. I think that's his point. If he'd awarded costs then there is a basis for appeals , not on the merits of the case but on the awarding and amount of costs: this way he can just wash his and all future court's hands of the case and legitimately say go feck themselves (including the lawyers too, on both sides).

[Montreal Wanderer]

Dunno about Canada, but it's very rare here for you to get costs in the small claims court (and those you can get I think are v limited). You'll get expenses for any time of work probably but not much more. Think part of the idea is to stop people being able to bully those with little resources into collapsing because they can't afford to risk going to court and losing.

Does seem a tad harsh there in that, although they were clearly cocks too, they weren't quite cockish enough to fecking go to court. I don't know how that even got through the door without a proper 'reason' for issuing it though.

This wasn't small claims court, Pru, where you can't even take a lawyer. It wasn't even Ontario Court of Justice, it was Ontario Superior Court (this because of the amount of damages claimed).

There is of course a difference between court costs and legal fees (what you pay your lawyer). The plaintiff has to pay certain costs in order to file an action. If the action succeeds the costs are often awarded against the defendant. If it fails the plaintiff is stuck with them. Each party is responsible for its own legal fees and no award is made specifically on the basis of these. If the plaintiff succeeds, the damages awarded may take legal fees into account. The defendants could only get their legal fees back if they counter-sued (e.g. for malicious prosecution), which they did not her. So when the judge talks about costs he is talking about court costs. He made no award of damages so legal fees did not come into it.

Dies this answer your question, Bruce?

Edit: The plaintiff pays most of the court costs initially. They have to pay to file an action, pay bailiffs to serve papers, etc. etc. The defendant does not have any initial costs - just has to turn up so only pays costs if he loses. perhaps that makes it clearer.

[Bruce Rioja]

Yes, Monty. Cheers. That's how I have it down as being.

[KeyserSoze]

went into lilywhites at lunch to get some new sports stuff. was wondering and saw they had an AEK athens shirt for four quid (usually around £40) so got it without thinking. Only just clocked that it looks a lot like a wolves shirt

[Gary the Enfield]

went into lilywhites at lunch to get some new sports stuff. was wondering and saw they had an AEK athens shirt for four quid (usually around £40) so got it without thinking. Only just clocked that it looks a lot like a wolves shirt

Serves you right for being a fecking FANBOY!

[Bruce Rioja]

went into lilywhites at lunch to get some new sports stuff. was wondering and saw they had an AEK athens shirt for four quid (usually around £40) so got it without thinking. Only just clocked that it looks a lot like a wolves shirt

You do know that whenever any of us see you in it we're all well within our rights to give you a 'wee push' with absolute impunity, don't you?

[KeyserSoze]

went into lilywhites at lunch to get some new sports stuff. was wondering and saw they had an AEK athens shirt for four quid (usually around £40) so got it without thinking. Only just clocked that it looks a lot like a wolves shirt

Serves you right for being a fecking FANBOY!

cheaper then any feckin sports top in the building! bought purely for running, casual footy and cycling purposes.

[bwfcdan94]

One opinion is that having an arse so big actually makes her tits look very small and as Monty says she looks a bit out of proportion.

[bwfcdan94]

^^ "Big" ... yes, certainly "big" is a word you could use. You could rest a tray of drinks on the one in trousers.

... & those ain't going to be getting smaller anytime soon.

Kim does seem a little out of proportion... Perhaps she should not wear trousers.

One opinion is that having an arse so big actually makes her tits look very small and as you say she looks a bit out of proportion.

[Gary the Enfield]

went into lilywhites at lunch to get some new sports stuff. was wondering and saw they had an AEK athens shirt for four quid (usually around £40) so got it without thinking. Only just clocked that it looks a lot like a wolves shirt

Serves you right for being a fecking FANBOY!

cheaper then any feckin sports top in the building! bought purely for running, casual footy and cycling purposes.

That's cos you're shopping at Lillywhites! That's Piccadilly Circus isn't it?

Isn't there a Sports Direct near you?

[KeyserSoze]

went into lilywhites at lunch to get some new sports stuff. was wondering and saw they had an AEK athens shirt for four quid (usually around £40) so got it without thinking. Only just clocked that it looks a lot like a wolves shirt

Serves you right for being a fecking FANBOY!

cheaper then any feckin sports top in the building! bought purely for running, casual footy and cycling purposes.

That's cos you're shopping at Lillywhites! That's Piccadilly Circus isn't it?

Isn't there a Sports Direct near you?

Lilywhites is a Sports Direct