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Well Your Holiness, although I can confirm that I have found the key to the gun cabinet I seem to have mislaid the cartridges. Why the poll would not indicate Labour support is unclear as it would seem to me that taking part indicates at least a passing interest in the future direction of those "wankers" as so elegantly described by Capslock.thebish wrote:the poll does not indicate labour-support - it indicates which of the candidates' policies people most relate to. if you don't understand that or appreciate the difference - then I would confidently predict you not being able to find the key for your gun-cupboard or hold the gun the right way round to shoot them with.....bedwetter2 wrote:Anyway, now we have identified all the Labour supporting losers identifying themselves in the leadership poll thread at least they are all in one place and may be rounded up and shot at leisure.
Anyhow, as a venerable man of the clergy you will be accorded the dignity of a choice in the means of your demise (unless I can find those damn cartridges in which case all bets are off). Toodle pip!
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Curiosity, Fella. The order of wank-age, if you will.bedwetter2 wrote:Why the poll would not indicate Labour support is unclear as it would seem to me that taking part indicates at least a passing interest in the future direction of those "wankers" as so elegantly described by Capslock.
May the bridges I burn light your way
bedwetter2 wrote:Why the poll would not indicate Labour support is unclear as it would seem to me that taking part indicates at least a passing interest in the future direction of those "wankers" as so elegantly described by Capslock.
hmmm... the idea that CAPS and Bruce are labour-supporting losers who should be shot is a novel one...
either that - or you are staggeringly dense...
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You mean that two non Labour-supporting onanists took part in a poll regarding the future leadership of that party of lost souls.......? Well fcuk me rigid!thebish wrote:bedwetter2 wrote:Why the poll would not indicate Labour support is unclear as it would seem to me that taking part indicates at least a passing interest in the future direction of those "wankers" as so elegantly described by Capslock.
hmmm... the idea that CAPS and Bruce are labour-supporting losers who should be shot is a novel one...
either that - or you are staggeringly dense...
It is so much better that the non police state party supporters ignored you Trotskyists all together, but I suppose it is still a free country despite the efforts of the congenitally dense Marxists and their fellow Balls supporters.
Anyhow, it's good to see that the left-leaning William the White leapt to the defence of you and your fellow travellers. I'm cleaning the barrels as I speak.
bedwetter2 wrote:You mean that two non Labour-supporting onanists took part in a poll regarding the future leadership of that party of lost souls.......? Well fcuk me rigid!thebish wrote:bedwetter2 wrote:Why the poll would not indicate Labour support is unclear as it would seem to me that taking part indicates at least a passing interest in the future direction of those "wankers" as so elegantly described by Capslock.
hmmm... the idea that CAPS and Bruce are labour-supporting losers who should be shot is a novel one...
either that - or you are staggeringly dense...
It is so much better that the non police state party supporters ignored you Trotskyists all together, but I suppose it is still a free country despite the efforts of the congenitally dense Marxists and their fellow Balls supporters.
Anyhow, it's good to see that the left-leaning William the White leapt to the defence of you and your fellow travellers. I'm cleaning the barrels as I speak.
I'll have a wild stab in the dark and guess that you have not got the first idea who Trotsky was. (and are you now calling Bruce and CAPS wankers??)
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Your wild stab in the dark is misdirected. I much prefer the dark history of the USSR in the early 1950s presided over by Stalin and Beria, though. They could teach present day amateur socialists a thing or two.thebish wrote:bedwetter2 wrote:You mean that two non Labour-supporting onanists took part in a poll regarding the future leadership of that party of lost souls.......? Well fcuk me rigid!thebish wrote:bedwetter2 wrote:Why the poll would not indicate Labour support is unclear as it would seem to me that taking part indicates at least a passing interest in the future direction of those "wankers" as so elegantly described by Capslock.
hmmm... the idea that CAPS and Bruce are labour-supporting losers who should be shot is a novel one...
either that - or you are staggeringly dense...
It is so much better that the non police state party supporters ignored you Trotskyists all together, but I suppose it is still a free country despite the efforts of the congenitally dense Marxists and their fellow Balls supporters.
Anyhow, it's good to see that the left-leaning William the White leapt to the defence of you and your fellow travellers. I'm cleaning the barrels as I speak.
I'll have a wild stab in the dark and guess that you have not got the first idea who Trotsky was. (and are you now calling Bruce and CAPS wankers??)
I can see now why Bruce and CAPS protested but, in fairness, they did take part.
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my bedwetting comrade...
For many people - perhaps most of us - there is a large element of tribalism in voting patterns...
many people would be surprised to find that as far as simple "policy" goes, they are a whole lot closer to those they vote against than they would care to imagine.
from a different angle - but the same point - I have sat down with groups of quite traditional "conservative" (small "c") evangelical christians and presented them with assorted texts (stripped of verse numbers and book names) - mixed from the Bible and the Qu'ran and asked which they would consider to be the word-of-God...
invariably they will pick some that originate from the bible and some that originate from the Qu'ran - and occasionally a selection weighted towards the Qu'ran
when in "real life" - conservative evangelical christians would deny wholeheartedly that the Qu'ran contains the word-of-God at all... It usually makes them very cross and they think I have somehow tricked them... (but making conservative evangelicals cross is fair game!)
I suspect that for many people - including me if I am honest - no party fulfils our political makeup wholly - and more than that - there are times when those we consider to be our political "enemies" are actually closer to what we believe about society than the party we actually vote for.
hence the poll - and there are similar ones that do a wider job and offer you an entirely policy-based snapshot view of whether you are actually - in terms of policy - more in tune with the tories, or labour, or the lib dems at any particular time.
so - wind your neck in - you have monumentally missed the point.
may i suggest some of these?
For many people - perhaps most of us - there is a large element of tribalism in voting patterns...
many people would be surprised to find that as far as simple "policy" goes, they are a whole lot closer to those they vote against than they would care to imagine.
from a different angle - but the same point - I have sat down with groups of quite traditional "conservative" (small "c") evangelical christians and presented them with assorted texts (stripped of verse numbers and book names) - mixed from the Bible and the Qu'ran and asked which they would consider to be the word-of-God...
invariably they will pick some that originate from the bible and some that originate from the Qu'ran - and occasionally a selection weighted towards the Qu'ran
when in "real life" - conservative evangelical christians would deny wholeheartedly that the Qu'ran contains the word-of-God at all... It usually makes them very cross and they think I have somehow tricked them... (but making conservative evangelicals cross is fair game!)
I suspect that for many people - including me if I am honest - no party fulfils our political makeup wholly - and more than that - there are times when those we consider to be our political "enemies" are actually closer to what we believe about society than the party we actually vote for.
hence the poll - and there are similar ones that do a wider job and offer you an entirely policy-based snapshot view of whether you are actually - in terms of policy - more in tune with the tories, or labour, or the lib dems at any particular time.
so - wind your neck in - you have monumentally missed the point.
may i suggest some of these?
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I really do think that you have missed my point, which amounts (as my username could imply) to a bit of a piss-take, nothing more, nothing less.thebish wrote:my bedwetting comrade...
For many people - perhaps most of us - there is a large element of tribalism in voting patterns...
many people would be surprised to find that as far as simple "policy" goes, they are a whole lot closer to those they vote against than they would care to imagine.
from a different angle - but the same point - I have sat down with groups of quite traditional "conservative" (small "c") evangelical christians and presented them with assorted texts (stripped of verse numbers and book names) - mixed from the Bible and the Qu'ran and asked which they would consider to be the word-of-God...
invariably they will pick some that originate from the bible and some that originate from the Qu'ran - and occasionally a selection weighted towards the Qu'ran
when in "real life" - conservative evangelical christians would deny wholeheartedly that the Qu'ran contains the word-of-God at all... It usually makes them very cross and they think I have somehow tricked them... (but making conservative evangelicals cross is fair game!)
I suspect that for many people - including me if I am honest - no party fulfils our political makeup wholly - and more than that - there are times when those we consider to be our political "enemies" are actually closer to what we believe about society than the party we actually vote for.
hence the poll - and there are similar ones that do a wider job and offer you an entirely policy-based snapshot view of whether you are actually - in terms of policy - more in tune with the tories, or labour, or the lib dems at any particular time.
so - wind your neck in - you have monumentally missed the point.
may i suggest some of these?
Thanks very much for the earnestness of your replies though. It does keep the thread going nicely in what would otherwise have been a boring football-less weekend.
As to my real political views, let me just say that we are all a bit of an amalgam of different views for different aspects of life in the UK. I am neither right wing, nor left wing, nor Liberal D in the sense of supporting any particular political party. If there were a Libertarian Party I would probably support some of its aims, principal of which should be to overturn the vested interests which always want to fight for power at the expense of the interests of the population at large.
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[quote="thebish"]how to be a tit - lesson 68
1. get involved in summat you don't understand
2. staggeringly miss the point
3. make a total tit of yourself
4. pretend you didn't mean it anyway and it was all a big joke
Interesting views there, old chap, but somewhat wide of the mark.
Why state that I don't understand the rationale behind the poll? You really do take yourself a little too seriously.
And so I take it that lesson 69 involves men of the cloth - presuming you are not one of those new-fangled female GBs - developing a sense of humour. In the meantime, if I can assist you in that direction there will no doubt be other opportunities afforded to me in taking the piss. Politics, religion, sex and the easily offended are all fertile ground for me.
1. get involved in summat you don't understand
2. staggeringly miss the point
3. make a total tit of yourself
4. pretend you didn't mean it anyway and it was all a big joke
Interesting views there, old chap, but somewhat wide of the mark.
Why state that I don't understand the rationale behind the poll? You really do take yourself a little too seriously.
And so I take it that lesson 69 involves men of the cloth - presuming you are not one of those new-fangled female GBs - developing a sense of humour. In the meantime, if I can assist you in that direction there will no doubt be other opportunities afforded to me in taking the piss. Politics, religion, sex and the easily offended are all fertile ground for me.
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I'm obviously missing something here. Could you point me to which of your posts show you have a sense of humour?bedwetter2 wrote:thebish wrote:how to be a tit - lesson 68
1. get involved in summat you don't understand
2. staggeringly miss the point
3. make a total tit of yourself
4. pretend you didn't mean it anyway and it was all a big joke
Interesting views there, old chap, but somewhat wide of the mark.
Why state that I don't understand the rationale behind the poll? You really do take yourself a little too seriously.
And so I take it that lesson 69 involves men of the cloth - presuming you are not one of those new-fangled female GBs - developing a sense of humour. In the meantime, if I can assist you in that direction there will no doubt be other opportunities afforded to me in taking the piss. Politics, religion, sex and the easily offended are all fertile ground for me.
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