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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:09 pm

You seem to have a lot of "faith" in the system Commie.

Are you sure you don't believe in god?
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Post by communistworkethic » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:08 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:You seem to have a lot of "faith" in the system Commie.

Are you sure you don't believe in god?
and you've joined him in the "huge assumptions to suit own political stance" method of posting. I have neither professed a faith in or a lack of faith in the system, if by 'system' you mean the financial system, merely an explanation as to the events of past 18months.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:10 pm

Say like the assumption you've just made? That kind?
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Post by lovethesmellofnapalm » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:04 pm

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Lord Kangana wrote:You seem to have a lot of "faith" in the system Commie.

Are you sure you don't believe in god?
and you've joined him in the "huge assumptions to suit own political stance" method of posting. I have neither professed a faith in or a lack of faith in the system, if by 'system' you mean the financial system, merely an explanation as to the events of past 18months.
and please in a "sweeping generalisation" sort of way explain your explanation again because up to now all you seem to have done (and i have re-read your posts carefully) is defend the indefensible big city bonuses and the unrestrained free market by drawing attention to the more minor part of my postings attacking the apparent need of companies to pay part of their employees wages in bonuses. And while we are on about "assumptions" based on "Daily Mail" :roll: headlines rather than knowledge what are you basing your comments on about GCSE Maths or the structure of competitive sport in schools?
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Post by Verbal » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:29 pm

"Young people, nowadays, imagine money is everything."

"Yes, and when they grow older they know it."

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Post by communistworkethic » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:54 pm

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communistworkethic wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:You seem to have a lot of "faith" in the system Commie.

Are you sure you don't believe in god?
and you've joined him in the "huge assumptions to suit own political stance" method of posting. I have neither professed a faith in or a lack of faith in the system, if by 'system' you mean the financial system, merely an explanation as to the events of past 18months.
and please in a "sweeping generalisation" sort of way explain your explanation again because up to now all you seem to have done (and i have re-read your posts carefully) is defend the indefensible big city bonuses and the unrestrained free market by drawing attention to the more minor part of my postings attacking the apparent need of companies to pay part of their employees wages in bonuses. And while we are on about "assumptions" based on "Daily Mail" :roll: headlines rather than knowledge what are you basing your comments on about GCSE Maths or the structure of competitive sport in schools?
I'll ignore your last bit as it's just bollocks on every level including grammatical.


The bits in bold are again nonsense, in no way can you suggest that that is the case on any evidence-based system at all.
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Post by communistworkethic » Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:56 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Say like the assumption you've just made? That kind?
so 'seem' is in no way an indication that you have formed an opinion? An opinion formed on no real evidence or questioning i.e. you've assumed?
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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:05 am

Whereas you're the epitome of objectiveness? Give me a break, seeing as a thousand and one self appointed experts can't agree on exactly whats gone wrong and how things work, its brave of you to hold yourself up as an even handed guardian of the truth.
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Post by communistworkethic » Mon Oct 27, 2008 7:23 am

Lord Kangana wrote:Whereas you're the epitome of objectiveness? Give me a break, seeing as a thousand and one self appointed experts can't agree on exactly whats gone wrong and how things work, its brave of you to hold yourself up as an even handed guardian of the truth.
Where have I put forward anything that's not objective? on the GFC and UK banking system, everyone who has any involvement is agreed on the causes just not the solutions. Those conclusions are based on observation and evaluation of evidence and a knowledge of the system itself.
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Post by runningonbravado » Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:18 pm

anyone watching this John Prescott documentary?

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Post by Verbal » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:15 am

US Election tonight/tomorrow morning...

Obama has taken the two towns that traditionally vote first in the election - Hart's Location and dixville somethingorother.

And has anyone seen this pic of obama and mccain with different coloured skin? To be honest that is a redundant question because you have now.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:03 pm

Looks like an Obama win though I recall it looked like being a Gore win too (which to all intents and purposes it may well have been).

Will be a fascinating night as I still struggle to see the racist American redneck hillbillies voting Obama and I still think it'll be pretty close.

I'll be saying some prayers for an Obama victory today.

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Post by Hoboh » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:22 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Looks like an Obama win though I recall it looked like being a Gore win too (which to all intents and purposes it may well have been).

Will be a fascinating night as I still struggle to see the racist American redneck hillbillies voting Obama and I still think it'll be pretty close.

I'll be saying some prayers for an Obama victory today.
Christ a night spent with Ena Sharples would be more fascinating!!!!
Bloody boring Yanks!!!

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:22 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Looks like an Obama win though I recall it looked like being a Gore win too (which to all intents and purposes it may well have been).

Will be a fascinating night as I still struggle to see the racist American redneck hillbillies voting Obama and I still think it'll be pretty close.

I'll be saying some prayers for an Obama victory today.
There are not really that many redneck hillbillies in the US. The danger to Obama comes from the Christian right (10% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim) and other social conservative elements. I would expect the Pacific and Atlantic seaboard states, and those bordering Canada to be Democrat while the heartland may still be Republican (Canadians favour Obama 6:1 btw and I'm with the majority). If Obama takes Virginia he might win in a landslide, if he doesn't we may be staying up late.

Verbal - Dixville Notch has only 21 voters who all go to the polls at 12.01 am after a night in the tavern no doubt. They get a 100% turnout, then go to bed. They are first but not especially significant in the electoral college.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:24 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Looks like an Obama win though I recall it looked like being a Gore win too (which to all intents and purposes it may well have been).

Will be a fascinating night as I still struggle to see the racist American redneck hillbillies voting Obama and I still think it'll be pretty close.

I'll be saying some prayers for an Obama victory today.
There are not really that many redneck hillbillies in the US. The danger to Obama comes from the Christian right (10% of Americans think Obama is a Muslim) and other social conservative elements. I would expect the Pacific and Atlantic seaboard states, and those bordering Canada to be Democrat while the heartland may still be Republican (Canadians favour Obama 6:1 btw and I'm with the majority). If Obama takes Virginia he might win in a landslide, if he doesn't we may be staying up late.

Verbal - Dixville Notch has only 21 voters who all go to the polls at 12.01 am after a night in the tavern no doubt. They get a 100% turnout, then go to bed. They are first but not especially significant in the electoral college.
Same difference.

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:30 pm

We should get a good sense of the situation just after midnight GMT when Virginia, Indiana, and Georgia come in. If McCain goes down in Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida then it's game over.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:33 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:We should get a good sense of the situation just after midnight GMT when Virginia, Indiana, and Georgia come in. If McCain goes down in Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida then it's game over.
You assume they'll all come in on time, which I doubt. There will be several too close to calls.

And also you have to give the Republicans time to take out some of the African American votes from the count. Only fair after all!

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:38 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote: If McCain goes down in Virginia
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:39 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:We should get a good sense of the situation just after midnight GMT when Virginia, Indiana, and Georgia come in. If McCain goes down in Virginia, North Carolina, and Florida then it's game over.
You assume they'll all come in on time, which I doubt. There will be several too close to calls.

And also you have to give the Republicans time to take out some of the African American votes from the count. Only fair after all!
There are also 27 million advance votes which will not be counted for a week or so I gather.
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Post by ratbert » Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:56 pm

I watched some of Fox News's coverage last night. Quite an odd experience...

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