Today I'm neither Angry nor Happy about....

[Bruce Rioja]

Those of you with company cars. What they worth pa do ya reckon?

Fed up at work last week I applied for a new job for the first time in donkeys years. Now I've got an interview I'm a bit frightened It's 5.5k less than I'm on but with a company car chucked in. Will I be much worse off?

Also, what's the deal with fuel? I assume they have ways of stopping you filling up on a Friday, buggering off to the coast at the weekend on their fuel, then filling up again on a Monday?

According to my P11D, the car is valued as being worth £4,578 PA, and the fuel is valued at £4,646, so I pay additional income tax on £9,224. Still a very good deal, I reckon.

Feckin eck, they reckon you use nearly ninety quids worth of diesel a week for personal use??!!

Never really looked at it like that, Bob. Only in terms of actual cost, which is probably pretty accurate.

[Gary the Enfield]

Those of you with company cars. What they worth pa do ya reckon?

Fed up at work last week I applied for a new job for the first time in donkeys years. Now I've got an interview I'm a bit frightened It's 5.5k less than I'm on but with a company car chucked in. Will I be much worse off?

Also, what's the deal with fuel? I assume they have ways of stopping you filling up on a Friday, buggering off to the coast at the weekend on their fuel, then filling up again on a Monday?

According to my P11D, the car is valued as being worth £4,578 PA, and the fuel is valued at £4,646, so I pay additional income tax on £9,224. Still a very good deal, I reckon.

Feckin eck, they reckon you use nearly ninety quids worth of diesel a week for personal use??!!

Never really looked at it like that, Bob. Only in terms of actual cost, which is probably pretty accurate.

I prefer company car. I tried the personal car (with allowance) and the amou nt of shit I had to deal with organising insurance, MOT, services repairs etc. including time away from work to deal with it tipped me straight back after 2 years. Yes, I pay tax on the benefit and fuel, but anything ANYTHING that goes wrong with it and I hand the keys into our Fleet department and have a replacement delivered within the hour.

[Bruce Rioja]

I prefer company car. I tried the personal car (with allowance) and the amou nt of shit I had to deal with organising insurance, MOT, services repairs etc. including time away from work to deal with it tipped me straight back after 2 years. Yes, I pay tax on the benefit and fuel, but anything ANYTHING that goes wrong with it and I hand the keys into our Fleet department and have a replacement delivered within the hour.

Our new owners don't like the fact that some of us have company cars and apparently didn't understand the concept of them forming part of our contracts. Apparently in the US they're more of a discretionary thing. A colleague's car is currently up for renewal and they're basically trying to force him down the route of a car allowance.

I've thought about opting out myself, but like you, I don't need any of the hassle associated with owning and running a car (though I was looking at leasing) and if anything goes wrong with it then it's someone else's job to sort it all out. I don't even pay for screenwash or de-icer.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Herein lieth the seed of why our planet is so fxcked up.
Just wait until eighteen million Chinese have that attitude.
I was appalled by a couple of friends who had a similar attitude to black servants in Malawi when they lived there in the 70s.
Ooooh it's so much easier, I don't have to bother about x y and z, and my status on the planet demands that I wallow in this luxury.

[Harry Genshaw]

Oh eck <runs for cover>

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Oh eck <runs for cover>

Que? s'jus'my opinion amigo...

[Bruce Rioja]

Herein lieth the seed of why our planet is so fxcked up.
Just wait until eighteen million Chinese have that attitude.
I was appalled by a couple of friends who had a similar attitude to black servants in Malawi when they lived there in the 70s.
Ooooh it's so much easier, I don't have to bother about x y and z, and my status on the planet demands that I wallow in this luxury.

My car is an essential business tool, not a luxury accessory. It says nothing about me whatsoever. So take your seed and poke it up your knob.

[Worthy4England]

Herein lieth the seed of why our planet is so fxcked up.
Just wait until eighteen million Chinese have that attitude.
I was appalled by a couple of friends who had a similar attitude to black servants in Malawi when they lived there in the 70s.
Ooooh it's so much easier, I don't have to bother about x y and z, and my status on the planet demands that I wallow in this luxury.

My car is an essential business tool, not a luxury accessory. It says nothing about me whatsoever. So take your seed and poke it up your knob.

Might have to throw in "Servant Allowance" next move. Good spot, Spotty.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Herein lieth the seed of why our planet is so fxcked up.
Just wait until eighteen million Chinese have that attitude.
I was appalled by a couple of friends who had a similar attitude to black servants in Malawi when they lived there in the 70s.
Ooooh it's so much easier, I don't have to bother about x y and z, and my status on the planet demands that I wallow in this luxury.

My car is an essential business tool, not a luxury accessory. It says nothing about me whatsoever. So take your seed and poke it up your knob.

Might have to throw in "Servant Allowance" next move. Good spot, Spotty.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Herein lieth the seed of why our planet is so fxcked up.
Just wait until eighteen million Chinese have that attitude.
I was appalled by a couple of friends who had a similar attitude to black servants in Malawi when they lived there in the 70s.
Ooooh it's so much easier, I don't have to bother about x y and z, and my status on the planet demands that I wallow in this luxury.

My car is an essential business tool, not a luxury accessory. It says nothing about me whatsoever. So take your seed and poke it up your knob.

Essential business tool - I like it.

Our lot (that is the managers in the company I work for) definitely fall into two clades: the business car brigade and the much smaller non-business car set. I can't think of a single manager (remembering that my lot work in the railway industry) who needs this essential business tool. Mostly they just compet at having the brightest and biggest boy's tool. The slavering that goes on when the annual car list is published is obscene, and the manoeuverings to get a car on a highwer band up the list every three years is nothing short of sordid.
(I'm not saying, by the way, that you display any such attitudes - for all I know some company cars may actually be essential business tools - but not many of them. and I was being somewhat tongue in cheek in my reaction to them )

[Bruce Rioja]

Herein lieth the seed of why our planet is so fxcked up.
Just wait until eighteen million Chinese have that attitude.
I was appalled by a couple of friends who had a similar attitude to black servants in Malawi when they lived there in the 70s.
Ooooh it's so much easier, I don't have to bother about x y and z, and my status on the planet demands that I wallow in this luxury.

My car is an essential business tool, not a luxury accessory. It says nothing about me whatsoever. So take your seed and poke it up your knob.

Essential business tool - I like it.

Our lot (that is the managers in the company I work for) definitely fall into two clades: the business car brigade and the much smaller non-business car set. I can't think of a single manager (remembering that my lot work in the railway industry) who needs this essential business tool. Mostly they just compet at having the brightest and biggest boy's tool. The slavering that goes on when the annual car list is published is obscene, and the manoeuverings to get a car on a highwer band up the list every three years is nothing short of sordid.
(I'm not saying, by the way, that you display any such attitudes - for all I know some company cars may actually be essential business tools - but not many of them. and I was being somewhat tongue in cheek in my reaction to them )

I've certainly seen that attitude displayed, but we get given an allowance. We are leaned on somewhat to buy Audis and/or VWs though, so everyone on the same payscale drives a similar car. There's no moaning about it. By the way, as well as the foreign stuff I'm also responsible for our UK market - in a couple of weeks time I have 15 UK meetings in the same week. I'd say that that's pretty essential use, wouldn't you?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Herein lieth the seed of why our planet is so fxcked up.
Just wait until eighteen million Chinese have that attitude.
I was appalled by a couple of friends who had a similar attitude to black servants in Malawi when they lived there in the 70s.
Ooooh it's so much easier, I don't have to bother about x y and z, and my status on the planet demands that I wallow in this luxury.

My car is an essential business tool, not a luxury accessory. It says nothing about me whatsoever. So take your seed and poke it up your knob.

Essential business tool - I like it.

Our lot (that is the managers in the company I work for) definitely fall into two clades: the business car brigade and the much smaller non-business car set. I can't think of a single manager (remembering that my lot work in the railway industry) who needs this essential business tool. Mostly they just compet at having the brightest and biggest boy's tool. The slavering that goes on when the annual car list is published is obscene, and the manoeuverings to get a car on a highwer band up the list every three years is nothing short of sordid.
(I'm not saying, by the way, that you display any such attitudes - for all I know some company cars may actually be essential business tools - but not many of them. and I was being somewhat tongue in cheek in my reaction to them )

I've certainly seen that attitude displayed, but we get given an allowance. We are leaned on somewhat to buy Audis and/or VWs though, so everyone on the same payscale drives a similar car. There's no moaning about it. By the way, as well as the foreign stuff I'm also responsible for our UK market - in a couple of weeks time I have 15 UK meetings in the same week. I'd say that that's pretty essential use, wouldn't you?

Nah, I reckon you could hitch and still make at least half of them

[Bruce Rioja]

Nah, I reckon you could hitch and still make at least half of them

Only if every other road user in Britain that week is driving a Skoda that goes like shit off of a stick.

[LeverEnd]

I like the expression 'you can poke it up your knob' and intend to use it more in conversation.

[Bruce Rioja]

I like the expression 'you can poke it up your knob' and intend to use it more in conversation.

Just you stick with me, Kid.

Further - I do hope that you've managed to squeeze the recently revived "spunk up" into a conversation somewhere!

[wigan white]

Got a funeral today of a close friend. She was diagnosed with brain cancer in August and given 4 weeks to live. Her daughter got married in October which she fought to attend and managed to see out Xmas and New Year with her young grandkids and then died peacefully on the 2nd Jan aged just 49. Not looking forward to it.

[malcd1]

Wow! No age at all. Sorry to hear that WW.

[TANGODANCER]

Condolences W.W. Never good to lose anyone but especially close friends and family. About the only comfort there is the word "peacefully". R.I.P.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Icon (indeed hero) of the human race, and his shitty wanky family. Part 1
Nelson Mandela.
Icon and Paragon and hero of the human race, and his shitty sons (although his daughter is commendable). Part 2.
Martin Luther King.

[wigan white]

Wow! No age at all. Sorry to hear that WW.

Condolences W.W. Never good to lose anyone but especially close friends and family. About the only comfort there is the word "peacefully". R.I.P.

Cheers for that guys. It was a lovely and light hearted send off which is just what she would have wanted.