Politics, The Election May 2015

[thebish]

aye - can't really disagree there... I do think Cameron is to be applauded for the same-sex marriage bill - that policy was never a typical Tory vote-winner!

[Prufrock]

Osbourne played a big role in driving that.

And, to be fair, IIRC Theresa May played a not-insignificant one too, though I suppose she can't be on the wrong side of everything.

[thebish]

Osbourne played a big role in driving that.

And, to be fair, IIRC Theresa May played a not-insignificant one too, though I suppose she can't be on the wrong side of everything.

she wears designer shoes - therefore you should love her... (or so the narrative used to be!)

[Harry Genshaw]

I cant help feeling Sturgeon is coming across so well as she at least appears fairly natural. Ed looks as though he has been prodded and trained by spin doctors so much that he comes across, to me any road, as a bit robotic.

[thebish]

An English teacher "marks" a UKIP flier...

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/04/17/eng ... letterbox/

[Bijou Bob]

I cant help feeling Sturgeon is coming across so well as she at least appears fairly natural. Ed looks as though he has been prodded and trained by spin doctors so much that he comes across, to me any road, as a bit robotic.

Last night we were watching Ed from a behaviourist point of view. His body language was clearly coached but very awkward. What was immediately noticeable was that during the 2 days he allegedly spent being coached for the debate, his coaches had clearly given him a number of Cameron mannerisms to copy, presumably in the hope that he would come across as PM ish. Bless him, he just looked a tad awkward. He had also clearly been told not to stare down the camera lens again as he was roundly slaughtered for appearing creepy whilst doing that at the first debate. Interestingly, the production team looked as though they had been given instructions not to go close on him, to avoid the same, as during one part of a monologue on defence, they hurriedly cut away from the 'Creepy looking down the lens' shot to an audience shot whilst he was still speaking.

[thebish]

you are Dr Cal Lightman and I claim my £5!

[Bruce Rioja]

A bit of girl-on girl-action, eh? Wish I'd have watched it now

[thebish]

all women politicians seem to think they have to wear heels now - so as to appear as if they are a woman out of a chick-lit book...

[Il Pirate]

I'm pretty sure Nigel Farage is a comedy performance piece by a drama student.

An ex-city boy proclaiming how everything is f*cked because of immigrants?! Brilliant.

Also, what Pirate said.

Take away your healthcare, take away your job, take away your safety net AND, to cap it, take away access to the justice system so you can't even get the f*ckers for taking away any of the other stuff.

I don't actually much mind Cameron and Osbourne, it's the Mays and IDSs that I can't wait to have shot of.

Cameron isn't a idealogue, he's not really into politics as such - he's a bit like blair - a marketing front...

Osbourne and Gove and co. - entirely different matter...

It's not as simple for me as whether or not they're an "idealogue". Osbourne and Gove are idealogues in that they want to introduce markets into fecking everything, but, whilst I disagree with them, I don't hate them for it, I just think they're wrong.

As it happens, I can't stand Gove, but that's because he's an oily smarmy f*cker who thinks he's a lot cleverer than he is.

Osbourne and Cameron brought the Tory party a long way back from the right and from the nasty side it has. I genuinely admire them both for pushing through gay marriage against their party. Whilst I disagree with so much of their social policy, and hope so much that they're gone after this election, I have nothing against them personally.

They're in stark contrast to the nastiness of the likes of May and IDS, who I both detest and disagree with.

May I use this opportunity to remind people of Nye Bevan's speech given at the Belle Vue hotel 3rd June 1938. Not much has changed since. People keep voting 'em in thinking it will, but it never does. Thatcher also starved people of this country during the miner's strike. If you think (not you personally pru), the tories have been bastards during this term in office, see what sh it they can pour on us given another chance.

[bobo the clown]

Thatcher also starved people of this country during the miner's strike.

Now THAT is a load of bollox Bluebeard. You've watched too many films which have created a myth around that dispute.

Whatever your position she "starved" no-one.

People fighting a strike which was never voted upon, but had as it's main, real, aim the unseating of an elected Government went hungry because they continued to refuse to work ... or were intimidated into not doing. I don't see how the person who resisted them can be described as having starved them.

If anyone starved them it was their leadership.

[Bijou Bob]

And Arthur certainly never starved!

[Il Pirate]

Thatcher also starved people of this country during the miner's strike.

Now THAT is a load of bollox Bluebeard. You've watched too many films which have created a myth around that dispute.

Whatever your position she "starved" no-one.

People fighting a strike which was never voted upon, but had as it's main, real, aim the unseating of an elected Government went hungry because they continued to refuse to work ... or were intimidated into not doing. I don't see how the person who resisted them can be described as having starved them.

If anyone starved them it was their leadership.[/quote]


Not so. She stopped child benefit to any striking miner's family and stopped free school meals for their children. Kitchens were set up in working men's clubs to feed the hungry. Especially the children.

[bobo the clown]

They could have worked. They chose not to.

[Hoboh]

A bit of girl-on girl-action, eh? Wish I'd have watched it now

Never had you down as a fan of the Three Stooges tbh Bruce

[Hoboh]

An English teacher "marks" a UKIP flier...

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/04/17/eng ... letterbox/

Will a day ever go by without you knocking UKIP?
I'm seriously beginning to think they worry you bish!
On the other question, I think 10 seats would do nicely for UKIP because between this election and the next the EU would, if we never get a proper referendum, screw up big time before then.
Actually it could happen earlier if the Greeks default and the Eurozone goes into crisis or these boat people are suddenly allocated places throughout the EU, voter backlash would be tremendous.

[Hoboh]

The BBC initially refused to disclose the political make-up of the audience but eventually released figures on Friday afternoon.

They showed that, of the 200-strong audience, about 58 were Conservative or Ukip supporters while about 102 supported left-leaning parties - Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru or the SNP – and the rest were undecided.

Ho, Ho, Ho! Lets not let that get in the way of Farage bashing.

[thebish]

An English teacher "marks" a UKIP flier...

http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/04/17/eng ... letterbox/

Will a day ever go by without you knocking UKIP?
I'm seriously beginning to think they worry you bish!
On the other question, I think 10 seats would do nicely for UKIP

so there we have it - ten - you reckon ten?

I reckon three...

[Prufrock]

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I hope he's one of them!

[thebish]

The BBC initially refused to disclose the political make-up of the audience but eventually released figures on Friday afternoon.

They showed that, of the 200-strong audience, about 58 were Conservative or Ukip supporters while about 102 supported left-leaning parties - Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid Cymru or the SNP – and the rest were undecided.

Ho, Ho, Ho! Lets not let that get in the way of Farage bashing.

eh?? last time I looked, the libdems were in govt with the tories!! left-leaning???