The Politics Thread

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

This AV debate might be interesting...

Cameron is in the NO camp. The NO camp thinks that its most powerful argument is that AV will bring perpetual coalition (which they see as a bad thing) and - more pointedly - perpetual Clegg.

they are currently debating how hard to go on the "perpetual Clegg - how awful would that be?" argument... if they go big on it - then Dave might look slightly awkward!! Also - how clever does Dave look if the NO campaign's chief argument is that COALITION leads to weak and poor government - when all the time he tells us it leads to grown-up sensible government?

I think there will be many subtle nuances and much awkwardness to come...

Basically sums up my interest in the issue.

[Harry Genshaw]

I really cant decide which to way to go with this AV/electoral reform debate. Clegg wants us to go one way and Cameron wants us to go the other. Is there a way I can piss them both off?

[thebish]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011 ... f-licences

has the government gone totally mad????

[CAPSLOCK]

I doubt it

You seem to think they might have, so would you care to expand?

[Lord Kangana]

Hobo'll be more happy with claiming benefits now though.

Always look for the positives.

And on a more serious note, does that mean if I go to a petrol station at certain times of the week, I'll have to wait behind a queue of OAP's collecting their OAP?

Because, from where I'm sat, if they don't do that then they'll have to install new service windows and employ extra staff. Which will involve cost. If it ain't broke...

[BWFC_Insane]

Hobo'll be more happy with claiming benefits now though.

Always look for the positives.

And on a more serious note, does that mean if I go to a petrol station at certain times of the week, I'll have to wait behind a queue of OAP's collecting their OAP?

Because, from where I'm sat, if they don't do that then they'll have to install new service windows and employ extra staff. Which will involve cost. If it ain't broke...

Ah but that will have been built into the contract so I should imagine we'll all be queuing more for our petrol and booze.

Whats next, triple heart bypasses in McDonalds?

[thebish]

I doubt it

You seem to think they might have, so would you care to expand?

encouraging people to cash their dole in an offie... sounds like madness to me...

and - do i want a queue of people waiting to cash their giros at the petrol station to add to the bastards who are doing a week's shopping in there??? no!

[CAPSLOCK]

If that headline was in the Mail, you'd have stuck it in the reasons to be angry thread..tis at best misleading, at worst a blatant lie

Anything that reduces the cost of delivering benefits gets the thumbs up from me

FWIW, I'd insist all benefits were paid into bank accounts - no bank account, no benefit

[thebish]

If that headline was in the Mail, you'd have stuck it in the reasons to be angry thread..tis at best misleading, at worst a blatant lie

Anything that reduces the cost of delivering benefits gets the thumbs up from me

FWIW, I'd insist all benefits were paid into bank accounts - no bank account, no benefit

but - it ain't up to you - so this is the proposal

do you think that offies won't offer Giro-day specials?

and - how long do you think it will be cheaper - until the Post Offices go out of business? then - with effectively no competition, the price will go up...

also - what if payPoint goes bust next year, or the year after?

[CAPSLOCK]

If folk want to cash their benefits in the offie and buy ale for themselves, so be it

You reckon cos folk are on benefits they're too think to find the offie?

Ifs, ifs and more ifs

Fcuk me, it's all 'yeah, but, no, but' with you

And if paypoint does go, but then why should it because as horrible capitalists they'll put the price up when they've killed off Post Offices, then we'll pay it direct to the bankaccounts


Post offices..I can honestly say I've not been in one for over 10 years...most folk who don't stink of piss would say the same

[thebish]

And if paypoint does go, but then why should it because as horrible capitalists they'll put the price up when they've killed off Post Offices, then we'll pay it direct to the bankaccounts

Post offices..I can honestly say I've not been in one for over 10 years...most folk who don't stink of piss would say the same

hmmm... if you've not been in a post office for 10 yrs - how do you know that people who go there stink of piss? (a bit like you railing against the contents of the match thread - which you then proclaim you haven't read...) it's all empty huff and puff with you....

as for paying directly into bank accounts - a good idea in principle - if only you could persuade the banks to offer all people a bank account. it is still not a legal entitlement to HAVE a bank account - and many people are routinely refused....

[Lord Kangana]

Its an interesting perspective, but one derived from very narrow horizons.

I know people who use the Post Office regularly because they do much of their business online and via mail. I myself use them quite ofeten for a whole host of reasons. some business related, some not.

So, your opinion of my Sex Panther aroma aside, its all about encouraging people to get off their arses and do business for themselves, right? The Post Office does a pretty decent job of that at the minute.

[CAPSLOCK]

I know people who use the Post Office regularly because they do much of their business online and via mail. I myself use them quite ofeten for a whole host of reasons. some business related, some not.

Collecting your incontinence pants?

[thebish]

I know people who use the Post Office regularly because they do much of their business online and via mail. I myself use them quite ofeten for a whole host of reasons. some business related, some not.

Collecting your incontinence pants?

I think you'll find they are padded envelopes, CAPS - they are for sending stuff in the post... they might do the trick though, if you were desperate...

[Lord Kangana]

I know people who use the Post Office regularly because they do much of their business online and via mail. I myself use them quite ofeten for a whole host of reasons. some business related, some not.

Collecting your incontinence pants?

I find the mattress to be far more absorbent.

[Bruce Rioja]

and many people are routinely refused....

Really? Even for simple deposit/cashcard accounts?

[Lord Kangana]

A good mate of mine was a real wizz-kid in our industry (if they exist?!) and had his own little empire in The Lakes when foot and mouth hit a while back. He says he couldn't get anything for a while after his bankruptcy.

His bitterness at the local farmers (his "friends", neighbours and regulars in the main) for their abuse of government bailouts is for another discussion some time.

[thebish]

and many people are routinely refused....

Really? Even for simple deposit/cashcard accounts?

yes.

[Hoboh]

If that headline was in the Mail, you'd have stuck it in the reasons to be angry thread..tis at best misleading, at worst a blatant lie

Anything that reduces the cost of delivering benefits gets the thumbs up from me

FWIW, I'd insist all benefits were paid into bank accounts - no bank account, no benefit

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

That would be manor to the ears of the knobs who dropped us in the shite in the first place, why give the bankers yet another bonus? We should start to move our money about and make the feckers work and deliver propper benefit to there hard won customers!!!

[TANGODANCER]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

That would be manor to the ears of the knobs who dropped us in the shite in the first place, why give the bankers yet another bonus? We should start to move our money about and make the feckers work and deliver propper benefit to there hard won customers!!!

Is that some sort of bonus rel-estate?