Moat Manhunt

[superjohnmcginlay]

if he hated da popo that much , he'd go to where they all are like a police station or summat...

instead he's holed up in some tent in some wood or some other knobheads house about 4 miles past the farest thing you can think of, on the off chance he can can "cap" them as they walk passed one by one. ???.

the pricks brains are made of soup.

hope it pisses it down.

Indeed. Even Arnie knew that.

[thebish]

if he hated da popo that much , he'd go to where they all are like a police station or summat...

instead he's holed up in some tent in some wood or some other knobheads house about 4 miles past the farest thing you can think of, on the off chance he can can "cap" them as they walk passed one by one. ???.

the pricks brains are made of soup.

hope it pisses it down.

Indeed. Even Arnie knew that.

or maybe the smarter thing to do is wait until they all get bored looking - and then pop up at a police station....

[a1]

or maybe the smarter thing to do is wait until they all get bored looking - and then pop up at a police station....

that would require going outside. he's even got his mates delivering his 'post' .

the hermit / agraphobic will only "shoot up the police" if they build a police station around his mates coucil house like one of them russian doll toys.

its all a bit "come here and say that again and then i'll batter you" .

[Il Pirate]

Maybe all this could and should have been avoided by the police taking notice of and acting upon his risk assessment prior to being released. Quote ' He presents a very serious risk to a named person' IE his girlfriend/partner. And then we get that copper in her '70's hairdo, telling the world that the police weren't informed 'he would actualy shoot anyone'. Splitting hairs and grabbing at straws spring to mind.

Within the law, what can the police actually do about someone said to present a risk to another person, who hasn't actually committed a crime? It's a question, because I only know the basics of this case. See, the way I see it, under present laws,
the term "Crime Prevention" can only apply on a general basis, ie taking what precautions they can to deter crime. Not a totally desirable situation, I agree, but unless the threatened people agree to dissapear from the area, where exactly do the police stand? People can only be brought to trial when a crime is commited, not on suspicion one might be.

In this case one has so they can act. Too late sadly for the dead.

Good point Tango; but within the criminal justice system there are measures in place to deal with people and situations like these. Given his previous, (what we are aware of), he is probably or has been a mappa case. Multi agency protection panel assessment. If this is the case, the authorities have the power to 'control' his movements, and if thought to be such a serious risk, to detain. Admittedly, they need some real heavy evidence to do this, but it is within their powers. The main problem lies with his sentence. Anyone sentenced to under 12 months is automaticaly released at the halfway point of sentence, without further (probation) supervision. If he had been sentenced to over 12 months, he would have been on licence. I'm not saying this would have stopped the very serious and sad events which followed his release, but to me, it again highlights the inadequacy of short term prison sentences.

[Tombwfc]

The police looked like they were starting to get pretty frustrated in the press conference they had today. Why do they have to have one every day anyway? Just release information straight to the public if you want to, it doesn't benefit anyone to have journalists get information out that they don't really want to give. Some of them were blatantly trying to make the Police guy have some kind of breakdown...

"You said previously that the net was closing in on Mr Moat. What would you say the status of the net is today?"

"I've spoken to a number of Raoul Moat's associates who say that the tent was a diversion and Mr Moat was never in Rothbury. Do you think this could be the case?

To be fair to the police, I've no clue either. He'd have to be a fecking mastermind to lead them all a merry dance, and the lovechild of Ray Mears and Bear Grylls to evade the police and survive on his own. If either of those is true and they don't eventually blow his brains out, they should probably send him to Afghanistan instead of prison.

How did Margeret Thatchers Spitting Image puppet manage to get so high up in Northumbria Police?

[TANGODANCER]

How did Margeret Thatchers Spitting Image puppet manage to get so high up in Northumbria Police?

Probably because media personality and the ability to write speeches, fill forms in and smile at cameras are considered a major asset in modern policing. Sherlock Holmes and Dixon of Dock Green are long gone.

[thebish]

How did Margeret Thatchers Spitting Image puppet manage to get so high up in Northumbria Police?

Probably because media personality and the ability to write speeches, fill forms in and smile at cameras are considered a major asset in modern policing. Sherlock Holmes and Dixon of Dock Green are long gone.

really? is he actually no good at his job then?

[TANGODANCER]

How did Margeret Thatchers Spitting Image puppet manage to get so high up in Northumbria Police?

Probably because media personality and the ability to write speeches, fill forms in and smile at cameras are considered a major asset in modern policing. Sherlock Holmes and Dixon of Dock Green are long gone.

really? is he actually no good at his job then?

There you go again. It's a "she", and I haven't a clue. Note the opening word "Probably". I know nothing about the woman.

[Gravedigger]

You're supposed to build fences, Rev, not sit on 'em!

[Little Green Man]

This has echoes of the Barry Prudom case from many years back.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Prudom

[Gravedigger]

Thanks for that, LGM. I was trying to think of the bloke's name only this afternoon. "Jungle" made his name more on TV than SAS. Usually military aren't allowed to assist police but on occasion they dig up some aptly named chap, purported to have retired from SAS, though normally it is for that week, month only. Good old Jungle Eddie McGee. He was the one taught Prudom how to survive, pity not without killing though.

[Little Green Man]

Thanks for that, LGM. I was trying to think of the bloke's name only this afternoon.

So was I. Your post got me Googling him.

[Bruce Rioja]

How did Margeret Thatchers Spitting Image puppet manage to get so high up in Northumbria Police?

It's alright, Tom. I got it. Spotter's badge for that one, matey.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Is it just me that feels slightly uncomfortable to hear the police responsible for catching a serial killer describe a time as 'teatime'?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/10556948.stm

[Dujon]

No. Why do you ask?

[keveh]

Is it just me that feels slightly uncomfortable to hear the police responsible for catching a serial killer describe a time as 'teatime'?

Also, he isn't a serial killer at the moment is he?

Unless he's committed another murder previously.

[Worthy4England]

Is it just me that feels slightly uncomfortable to hear the police responsible for catching a serial killer describe a time as 'teatime'?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/10556948.stm

I think maybe yes.

Lots of Up North still have dinner and tea, rather than lunch and dinner.

[CAPSLOCK]

Is it just me that feels slightly uncomfortable to hear the police responsible for catching a serial killer describe a time as 'teatime'?

Ya big girl

[as]

'How did Margeret Thatchers Spitting Image puppet manage to get so high up in Northumbria Police?'

Classic

[Gary the Enfield]

Is it just me that feels slightly uncomfortable to hear the police responsible for catching a serial killer describe a time as 'teatime'?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/10556948.stm

No.